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So sorry, didn't wanna give impression of 'hating'...very strong word! To clarify, it's more the people that have babies that won't 'train' them ie they turn out rude, precocious, demanding little rats that have no manners & make everyones' life unpleasant with their whiny, 'I want an...

Ahhh, Biggles. I hear ya! I too NEVER wanted kids (happy to admit I was too selfish & didn't particularly like them unless they were 'well-trained'). The whole deal turned me off...getting fat....why o why would any sane person do it? Then 'the accident' happened...& yes, pregnancy was...