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Okay, I'm not sure if Antistar is aware, but NOBODY is disagreeing. There seems to be a misunderstanding as to what everyone is debating. Anywho, as for does money need to be put in to make money. I most certainly believe there is. And this is from experience. Here's a simple (real)...

I don't get it. I thought the question being answered was how does one calculate their investments, not, is this the right way to invest. I purchase everything 80% LVR and front the costs to avoid LMI. I still do my calcs to see if I want to purchase the place at 105% though, compare like...

I use 105% in my calcs. It's cheating if you don't! haha. mine are 8%+ ROI at 105%. Postcode 2760. CJay is on the money. I've seen a few 8%+ now.