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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the...

thanks for that link and info. http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/labors-sole-nominee-for-seat-of-dobell-is-former-liberal-20130617-2oeig.html a bit more about him. wonder if he has had links with obeid like torbay?? with independents it can be hard to know who they will vote...

you are not alone. and yes it is fascinating. wonder if the labor party have decided on a candidate for craig thomson seat yet?

yes the by-election...who will labor put in for her seat? or will she stay on the back bench? a truly ugly time for australia. not to mention the cost. things can only improve? roll on the election.

weg its beginning to sound like a bad soap opera, but of course its more serious because its reality. wonder what the ending will be? there has been a lot of damage so far. gillard does not seem to have an exit plan. its ugly but fascinating at the same time. some bizarre things being...

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/6/14/election/why-shorten-needs-labor-lose-well this is an excellent article. the finale on election night will be interesting.

its all getting dirty and desperate and its not over yet. the stakes are high and some/many are seeing there income and careers coming to an end. for many its a terminal situation. there is little chance of a dignified ending. doubt gillard has an exit plan. its ugly. glad when we can...