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I've got three daughters - we will support them in every way we reasonably can to succeed and they have just as much ability as their male counterparts - this is a pointless debate.

this thread has drifted way off course

Perhaps you should give some examples of what "amenities" are available in the CBd that aren't anywhere else - here are a couple: Shops caffes restaurants pubs clubs parks water schools - all of these things are available outside of the CBD - the only thing missing is work, if you are...

The same amenities are available on the suburbs. Cities are no longer 'monocentric'

That sounds great!

When I say shoe box I am more thing along the lines of the overpriced bungalows, cottages and terraces rathe than apartments

Yep the more of those jobs the better for me.

From what I understand the final cost will be much more than the contract value ;) The project has a headline value of 1 billion plus

ofcourse it is - theyre the guys that want you to bid up the value of the inner ring housing - they dont want the money moving further out or to the developers. its like the real estate instutute and spruikers whinging about the FHOG being withdrawn for existing houses - its the best decision...

adopt the Tonny Abbot method and relocate all of the farming to Northern Australia and extent the Mitchell Freeway to Port Headland to service it! :D

Good to see we are on the same page

i do this for a living - you're right, generally. but its also weather and jurisdiction dependent. in some states its a lot cheaper to build because regulations etc are a bit more relaxed and agencies are more cooperative.

That's actually a pretty stupid statement - there are laws against misrepresentation.

It's usually a concurrent process the infrastructure is usually in planning when they sell the land and the developers also use this to Market the blocks to respective buyers

so what's the alternative? everyone pays 800k to live in the city because it has a nice post code and I can buy a latte at the cute coffee shop up the road?

as an example - the population density of Australia is 2.9 persons per km in the US - 32.9 persons per km surope and central asia - 17.6

I am not convinced - - whilst urban sprawl may be an issue in europe and the US - i dont think its the same problem in Australia. - why shouldnt I be able to live in a house with a backyard. you know it makes me laugh - on the one hand - previous generations are critical that "kids of...

the government usually justifies road project expenditure based on freight movements. they cost benefit this stuff all of the time.

Seaford rail extension in Adelaide is costing well below that amount.

498 billion! i think you mean million? it was an Alliance project no wonder it cost so much - it was more than just a station, it involved an extension of the track etc.