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Telejazzer Absolutely spot on, fear and greed have always driven markets whether the buyers were investors or owner occupiers . Prime example was after the 1987 share market crash, investors jumped out of equities(fear) and into property and even though they were in the minority they...

WARNING, anyone reading this thread please note that unless you have more than 2 IPs you are now no longer classed as an investor.:confused::confused:

Thanks Rixter, Accepting that multiple IP investors may not drive the market I'm still curious as to why you think it's only the owner occupiers that drive the market. Cheers Pete

Ah Rixter, you're missing my point, my posts are in answer to your post #63 'Investors' dont drive the property markets. Its the 'owner occupiers' that do. My contention is it is neither only PPOR or investors that drive the market but supply and demand in total that drives the market...

Rixter I've read the title of the thread and post #1,it doesn't explain why you think investors have no impact on prices.

Where would you ever draw that conclusion from my posts?:confused: Investors are simply part of the the cycles of supply/demand. Would you please explain how investors have no impact on supply/demand? Cheers Pete

No Rixter, in reality the PPOR/investors would be spread through the 100 sales, I was breaking it down to simple high school supply/demand economics. Cheers Pete

100 properties for sale in a suburb, 90 PPOR buyers, 15 investors. The smart investors such as yourself jump in and buy 15 at a good price leaving 90 PPOR buyers to fight over the remaining 85. The emotion of greed kicks in and prices then get pushed up.

Property is owned approx 70% PPOR/30% investor. The %'s are irrelevant. The relevance is that when a class of buyer causes an imbalance in the market they can have a disproportionate affect on the market.

Hi Rixter prices are driven at the edge e.g. 100 properties 70PPOR buyers, 30 invetors = balanced market 100 roperties 70PPOR buyers 35 investors= sellers market