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Point taken.

This really is pointless, isn't it? Whenever I make a point you find a detail that doesn't fit (or that you do not see as fitting) and then harp on that to the exclusion of all else. some history: 1. You started this off with the absurd claim that the average price of an average tokyo apt...

I wrote a long response to this but have deleted. The running personal attacks/defense/justification/counterattacks are not productive. Let's just call it a day, shall we? I never said that. As I have said throughout the properties they are selling are not representative. They do not...

So I take it you didn't read the bit in the "about us" page of the cent. 21 site where they say: Or the bit on the other site where they say: . And in their Japanese versions, they say essentially the same thing - that they are targetting expats. Well I guess that means that you are...

Your Japanese links are not Japanese links. They are English language websites targetting an English-speaking audience. My Japanese link is a real Japanese link targetting real Japanese people who live in normal Japanese apartments, as compared to the overpriced luxury apartments listed on...

but the source is crap. i wasnt insulting you and i apologize if that is how it sounded--it just seemed so absurd to me that people might think the average apt. in tokyo went for 2 million+ . i apologize if it came off like i was insulting you--i was referring to the source. you went on to...

so you arbitrarily choose a standard that has nothing to do with the reality on the ground and extrapolate from there? whatever floats your boat. I don't see anything in your posts comparing prices/m2. i see you attempting to compare dwellings. hence your assertion that "average japanese...

I treat others as they treat me mate. you have been insulting and rude, i felt obliged to return the favor. you show absolutely no interest in learning the reality of the situation in japan and instead seem intent only on picking a fight and sticking to your hopelessly mistaken preconceptions...

All of the properties on the yahoo link i provided are in the dead center of tokyo. as far as why it is not meaningful to compare a 50m2 apt in brisbane/sydney to a 50m2 apt in Tokyo, that requires a degree of cultural understanding. i know it is a waste of time to try to convince you that...

So Yahoo is a dodgy website? some little fly by night organization? unlike that wonderfully credible page listed above? or your link, which doesn't even seem to be working? If you want to read it in English and can't be fussed learning Japanese just use yahoo translate...

I don't recall making any such comparisons, but let's set that aside. The notion that median prices for tokyo apts are 2 million dollars is so absurd as to not require any proof. Walk up to any person from tokyo and make that assertion. Watch them laugh at you. There's your proof...

Well, the first thing would be to look for more reliable sources for your data. the average price for an average apt. in tokyo is NOT 2 million dollars. Not even during the bubble. your information is just plain wrong. secondly, you are comparing (absurdly mistaken) tokyo housing prices...

I don't think that is true, though. You are comparing a relatively modest dwelling in Sydney to the equivalent of a mansion in Tokyo. People don't live in 200m2+ four bedroom single family dwellings in downtown tokyo. They live in high rise 3 bedroom apartments that run about 60-80m2. And...

I'm not quite sure what your point is... Because Tokyo is more expensive than Sydney, Sydney can continue to go up? Seems like a pretty facile argument. the comparisons you list are basically apples-to-oranges--they are meaningless.

you are comparing 1955-1990 growth in japan to the situation of australia? you understand what the situation of japan was like in 1955? by 1955 japan had only just managed to return to 1937 levels. that was their definition of *post-post war* your baseline is very, very out of whack...

"can" act the same? You mean, has been acting the same. the current crash in the market is the product of a bubble that led to overinflated valuations. when bubbles pop they tend to cause a lot of collateral damage--its no longer simply a matter of sentiment where thinking happy thoughts will...