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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101884085 Without water jobs dry up as well. Without jobs, people leave.
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Califfornia has just had its warmest winter ever and is about to run out of water (in less than 1 year) after a record drought. The state could see economic collapse and mass emigration as they have no backup plan.. The UK also is experiencing record weather, the warmest on record. Global...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Observation that the most powerful storms the world has ever seen have been in the last 10 years, 3 record breakers in the Pacific in the last 18 months. Observation that Australia has only ever had 8 category 5 storms in its history, and 4 of those were in the last 15 years. Yes many scientific...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    The frequency of storms in general is not increasing, but the frequency of very powerful storms (Cat 5) is increasing around the world. Many attribute this to increased ocean temperatures, which makes sense since this is what drives a storm. 2015 Cyclone Pam: one of the most powerful cyclones...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    No one "changed the words", they are different things. Do you guys not understand that or are you just baiting? Either way its impossible to argue with you. Your minds are made up, you don't want to know. Meanwhile in the real world the Pacific ocean has two of the most powerful storms ever...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Whats so funny about rising sea temps wiping out the coral reefs. ?.... if you are not interested in the current observed effects of global warming I don?t know why you keep asking what they are.
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Not at all .. it has always been said that the worlds coral reefs are the "canary in the coal mine" for global warming. The most diverse ecosystems on the planet, they are very sensitive to increasing water temperatures and cannot survive a sustained 2 degree C temp rise, it causes coral...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    CO2 and other gases cause the heating. Heated oceans induce climate change through altered current and wind patterns (weakening gulf stream, jet stream in different position, etc), storm generation, reduced sea ice (arctic ice minimum coverage now down over 50%). This is not correct, the...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    I find the opposite.. it is the lesser educated who tend to distrust science and prefer to follow crackpot internet pseudo scientists and ignore the vast body of evidence from the reputable sources. Not worth trying to argue it with these people though. They don?t want to listen, read or...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Yes it is very similar, the same anti-science forces at work for special interests and money, or just plain ignorance of the facts. Their numbers are fast dwindling though. There is even more evidence of climate change than the health dangers of smoking, but still they persist.
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    No the two terms are different things and have been around a long time, but skeptics don't want to know about it and instead present it as some sort of confusion, which of course it is not. http://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-change-global-warming.htm
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