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    welfare vs frugal

    I know a few doctors but ALL the serious wealth I see is from business; 30 yo multimillionaire team mate of my son who owns a highly successful marketing company, to a builder friend who owns millions in property and just 3 -4M on the PPOR alone, on top of the 'chain' of childcare centers he...
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    welfare vs frugal

    Yes, referring to a single, as I took pensioners to mean all pensioners not couples. His quote here
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    welfare vs frugal

    Is it? They get cut off at 707,750. A single pensioners pension is around 20K so if the assets bring in income (you can't pay those big rates on a part pension) of over 20K, which you would expect they would, do you really think they'd still get a part pension - in other words pay a wealthy...
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    welfare vs frugal

    Incorrect again. Many self funded retirees get many of things without getting any pension at all... by applying for a Seniors Card. And even those that don't qualify (the very wealthy ones) can still get some government services for free or at a small charge as well, like home care, home...
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    welfare vs frugal

    Many of us don't think people like this should get anything, but the reason people are arguing with you is because you post inaccurate facts and misinformation based on wild assumptions (and contradict what you say :confused:). I think the chances of a single granny with 800K getting 'much'...
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    welfare vs frugal

    No to 2 out of the 3, but I'd be happy to see all of those go if they got redirected to something useful... like to those that really NEED it. I didn't. (sense the different attitude here ;)) I think you've completely missed the point in what I've been trying to say . It's not so much the...
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    welfare vs frugal

    Are you saying you think you should be even more entitled to government assistance because you choose to give your income to others :rolleyes:. If not what is the reason for mentioning this? If those families are financially challanged you would think they're already recieving assistance...
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    welfare vs frugal

    Gawd, and here was me thinking you lived in a shoebox in the middle of the road :p. Sounds much like my own, and the upbringing of 75% of the people I knew growing up (most worked on small farms, manufacturing, retail or did office work - hardly high paying). Why didn't anyone tell us we...
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    welfare vs frugal

    But it does start cutting out dramatically, especially if you live at home and you're declaring it. Unfortunately the nature of many people is to not work too many hours or to not declare it, if it means getting a big cut or having it taken away. What i'm most curious about is why Ideo...
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    welfare vs frugal

    Angel, if your son was here I'd send him off to a hotel owner who has 3 pubs and is often looking for 20yo+ to do bottle shop drive through work. Another of sons friends does this (not the 'rich' one) and he's mentioned this to my son a few times when jobs are going. Pay is $23 ph for a 5 hr...
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    welfare vs frugal

    Most people with full time jobs who take up study usually do it part time, not full time, and those that do full time study, work part time. It's not that hard to do. There is rarely a pressing need or requirement to do both fulltime. Working 20 hours a week and earning $300 to $400 net per...
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    welfare vs frugal

    What i was referring to was the governments recent decision to divert some of the foreign aid funds to cover the financial blowout caused by the larger than anticipated asylum seeker influx.
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    welfare vs frugal

    Haven't we already decided to do this :eek:.
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    welfare vs frugal

    I agree with some of the others that it simply wouldn't work. It would be a nightmare trying to get a huge group of long term unemployed working, when most don't want to, or are fussy with what they do, or want much higher remuneration than welfare for the effort. The project would be...
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