Yes, it is a different personality disorder, however not all but many serial killers/psychopaths exhibit narcissistic personalities. Google Ted Bundy, Dennis Radar (BTK), Gacy to name a few.
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MTR
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Anyone ever been called a "Narcissist"?..
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Yes, it is a different personality disorder, however not all but many serial killers/psychopaths exhibit narcissistic personalities. Google Ted Bundy, Dennis Radar (BTK), Gacy to name a few.
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MTR
Yes you are right, not all narcissists are psychopaths.
As per this medical journal/article, striking feature with narcissistic personality is "Lack of Empathy", frightening isn't it.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...k-empathy-the-most-telling-narcissistic-trait
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You are correct not all those who meet criteria for NPD are psychopaths. And not all psychopaths are narcissists. Psychopathy is not in the DSM or the englsih equivalent diagnostic system (ICD, ICD-10 being the latest version). Since Hare devised his psychopathy checklist - psychopathy has become of more interest. You can even go and do a "course" to hearn how to use the Hare Psychopathy Checklist. It's pretty expensive. There are other's in the field who disagree with this "diagnosis". In DSM there is "Antisocial Personality Disorder" - which has some of the features of psychopathy.
The article you site, is not from a medical journal.
Saw this on facebook this morning.
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20140805/need-to-spot-a-narcissist-just-ask-them
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20140805/need-to-spot-a-narcissist-just-ask-them
lol, Web MD. Every doctors favourite website.
Mark,,Next time your sitting in the front bar watching all people walk past and you get a endorphin rush of sudden connectivity just remember they are out there..imho..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC3hbNqtkxM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC3hbNqtkxM
*shudders*
Will, in my experience the biggest mistake women make with regards to men is thinking that what they find attractive in men is the same thing men find attractive in women. Which is not even remotely close to true.
A woman strutting around like she's the **** of the walk, with a bit of arrogance and overflowing with confidence really isn't attractive. Men are attracted to women, not men in a skirt and heels.
As I've said before, men look for three things in a woman:
- young
- attractive
- feminine
That's the way it's always been and that's the way it always will be.
Will, in my experience the biggest mistake women make with regards to men is thinking that what they find attractive in men is the same thing men find attractive in women. Which is not even remotely close to true.
A woman strutting around like she's the **** of the walk, with a bit of arrogance and overflowing with confidence really isn't attractive. Men are attracted to women, not men in a skirt and heels.
As I've said before, men look for three things in a woman:
- young
- attractive
- feminine
That's the way it's always been and that's the way it always will be.
Men may like to look at young, attractive and feminine women but that doesn't mean "men" are looking "for" those types. Don't mistake what you like to be what every other man likes. "Looking at" and "choosing" are very different.
Define 'young' and define 'feminine'. Sounds like you're looking for some ingenue coquette. If you're 39 and your idea of 'young' is 22, something's not right. Men who are always finding 'young' women don't like to feel threatened by someone who is an equal. There are lots of gorgeous feminine women of 35.
Al Pacino has a 35yr old girlfriend Lucila Sola,Al looks good for his age @ 74.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...y-style-cross-country-flight-Los-Angeles.html
Chuck Norris,he will outlive everyone.
Kind regards Shovelhead.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...y-style-cross-country-flight-Los-Angeles.html
Chuck Norris,he will outlive everyone.
Kind regards Shovelhead.
No, most men also look for someone with a kind heart, someone who cares about people, someone with kindness, intelligence, loyalty. Youth and beauty are only skin keep. They fade. If there is nothing of substance beneath the exterior, what are you left with down the track? Nothing.
It's only the shallow men who look for only those qualities, because they can't offer much themselves.
Just thought I'd mention also last week there was an interview on ABC radio with a health professional (cannot recall what sort - psychologist?) discussing the increase in narcissism and she definitely talked about the link between narcissism and both sociopaths and psychopaths. She particularly mentioned the recent killings in Norway by Anders Behring Breivik and several other notorious similar crimes.
From Wikipedia... Two teams of court-appointed forensic psychiatrists examined Breivik before his trial. The first report diagnosed Breivik as a paranoid schizophrenic. A second psychiatric evaluation was commissioned following widespread criticism of the first. The second evaluation was published one week before the trial; it concluded that Breivik was not psychotic during the attacks nor during the evaluation. He was instead diagnosed as having narcissistic personality disorder.
There is definitely some link. I think she was saying sociopaths are narcissist but (what I understood from listening, and probably fairly obviously) not always necessarily the other way around.
That's what I meant. Narcissists aren't necessarily sociopathic/psychopathic and sociopaths/psychopaths aren't necessarily narcissistic.
This is an area of interest for me.
The following are the factors which make up the psychopathy checklist.
Facet 1: Interpersonal
Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Pathological lying
Cunning/manipulative
Facet 2: Affective
Lack of remorse or guilt
Emotionally shallow
Callous/lack of empathy
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
Facet 3: Lifestyle
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
Parasitic lifestyle
Lack of realistic, long-term goals
Impulsivity
Irresponsibility
Facet 4: Antisocial
Poor behavioral controls
Early behavioral problems
Juvenile delinquency
Revocation of conditional release
Criminal versatility
Many short-term marital relationships
Promiscuous sexual behavior
Many of them do overlap with the DSM for antisocial and narcissistic personality (or ICD equivalent). There's been a lot of research done in this field. There are people being held indefinately in psychiatric hosptials who score VERY highly on the psychopathy checklist who have committed terrible crimes and are thought to have little ability for rehabilitation and release to the community.
Then again, there are some pretty functional psychopaths who may score highly in in the first 3 facets but perhaps because of intelligence and / or better parenting do not score so highly on the antisocial traits. You will find them in the boardroom, the parliment and even on this forum.
The following are the factors which make up the psychopathy checklist.
Facet 1: Interpersonal
Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Pathological lying
Cunning/manipulative
Facet 2: Affective
Lack of remorse or guilt
Emotionally shallow
Callous/lack of empathy
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
Facet 3: Lifestyle
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
Parasitic lifestyle
Lack of realistic, long-term goals
Impulsivity
Irresponsibility
Facet 4: Antisocial
Poor behavioral controls
Early behavioral problems
Juvenile delinquency
Revocation of conditional release
Criminal versatility
Many short-term marital relationships
Promiscuous sexual behavior
Many of them do overlap with the DSM for antisocial and narcissistic personality (or ICD equivalent). There's been a lot of research done in this field. There are people being held indefinately in psychiatric hosptials who score VERY highly on the psychopathy checklist who have committed terrible crimes and are thought to have little ability for rehabilitation and release to the community.
Then again, there are some pretty functional psychopaths who may score highly in in the first 3 facets but perhaps because of intelligence and / or better parenting do not score so highly on the antisocial traits. You will find them in the boardroom, the parliment and even on this forum.
Quite. I took a stroll around the internet a few weeks ago and came across an article of 'The Top 5 Professions That Psychopaths Work In' and police officers and surgeons were both on the list. Can't remember the rest.
TBH, I was surprised finance wasn't in the Top 5.
Edit: Here we are. It's Top 10, not Top 5. http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2013/01/05/the-top-10-jobs-that-attract-psychopaths/
I think a number of those make sense. I imagine seeing some of the things people in those professions see, you'd need to have some sort of disconnect to go in everyday. For instance, I knew a guy that used to be a cop whose job was to monitor kiddie porn sites. He ended up on disability as a result and eventually left the force. I couldn't even begin to imagine what doing that kind of work must be like.
Hahahaha completely used out of context, being called this should be the least of your worries, I could have thought of plenty of other options
Maybe it should be skanky bogan with the "look at me; I'm so tuff because my dogs are!" attack mutts.
Let's hope one of your dogs isn't on the six o'clock news one day, with the follow up story of the owner being fined and the dog destroyed.
I thought you were a "reformed bogan"?
Sounds like you are still a fully paid up card carrying member to me.
