Bali Nine
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It's very murky and complicated... SBY was not a fan of capital punishment and ordered very few executions (the Bali bombers being one of the few exceptions). Jokowi campaigned that he was tough on drugs and straight away started up the executions to please the public.
It's definitely not a storm in a tea-cup, Indonesia was slowly moving away from the death penalty, especially for drug related crime. It's a big deal what's happening over there at the moment. Lot's of people will be loosing their lives.
The Brazilians are very unhappy and I think from memory recalled their ambassador, Indonesia killed one of their citizens last month and another will be done shortly, I think they both had/have mental issues also.
Interesting spread on recent history;
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-26/zhang-indonesia-likely-to-execute-more-foreigners/6263122
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-26/zhang-indonesia-likely-to-execute-more-foreigners/6263122
Widodo is an order of magnitude worse. Itś absolutely about politics, not about drugs as evident in Indonesias lax attitude to other drugs which do more harm, and their specific targeting of foreigners and clemency for the locals.
The Australian government needs to take the gloves off after this with some serious measures. I will not be going to Indonesia again, I hope many thousands of others will not either. The Boycott Bali movement is gaining traction.
The Indonesians have no respect for life? What a load of cr@p.
It's got nothing to do with Australia, they're doing it to many foreigners. This is typical of the fear-mongering you constantly hear about the Indonesians.
quoting some other moron doesn't make it right.
here's some informtation for you anyway:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
Yes, the publicity has been fantastic hasn't it? Very proud to see that there are so many people speaking up against the death penalty. One day it will be abolished in Indonesia and history will view it as the barbaric act that it is.
depends, it's all about greed and money. Whereas before you could say that you would probably get away with some gaol time and the reward is therefore 'x', now it's execution so the price has gone up to 'y'
doesn't have to. even if it stops only one criminal from re-offending it's already served it's purpose.
also it would have more effect on other offenders, if it was applied more, and people didn't spend years waiting to be executed.
currently part of the problem is that some spend 20-30 years on death row, so the public knows that even if they do get death penalty it will be years and years before it's actually actioned.
whereas if the whole process took only around a year - there would be a stronger reinforcement.
careful....you'll be dubbed a 'keyboard warrior"
No I think that's saved your husband, who said he'd happily kill people and bragged about his abilities...
is the problem that you don't believe his ability to do it and you think he is full of it? Or just the general touchy feely issues around it? I know people that would pull the trigger on these guys. Comes down to your training and background. For me, I'm just an office boy and I am sure the reality of pulling the trigger would be quite shocking
I didn't call him a keyboard warrior so you'll have to ask whoever did. Call me a bleeding heart but I think it's a tad weird to say you'd personally volunteer to blow someone's head off. Not something on my bucket list...
On the other hand you should be pulling the trigger on your daughter for being such a loser. She has no-one to blame but herself.
keyboard warroior of 2015 !
oops, someone has already taken that position!
its a wonder why I have yet to hear one story in my entire life of this or similar being carried out
