Cairns Update

Mike
The PM I use is Ace Real Estate on Sheridan St ph: 07 4041 3843. Christine (CJ) owns the business and they are a PM firm not a RE company with PM tacked on the end. They go out of their way to help me and I have great tennants - they promote themselves as 'tennant friendly'. They require a high standard from their tennants.

Another great PM that I have read in a previous thread is someone from O'Connor and Gray (?). I think that's who Chrispy uses but you'd have to check.

There are some dodgy PMs in Crns - I have rented there for several yrs and then I bought a house. I interviewed several and chose Ace not b'cos of the price (they aren't the cheapest but they aren't expensive) but b'cos CJ and Leigh (her offsider) get to know their tennants and keep tabs on them.

I'm not sure who else to recommend.

Good luck
Cheers
Ecogirl
 
I can strongly recommend Jim Pla from Pla Property Services.

I have two houses with him and cannot speak highly enough of him. He and his lovely wife , Rhonda mostly just property manage although Jim does sell a few houses for his clients. They are very experienced and approachable and keep the tennants under control.

They specialise in houses in the executive market which is really in houses that rent for over $200 a week.

Here is their url ----> http://www.plaproperty.com.au/

Their contact numbers are on their site.
 
Cairns property market strong in Sept. quarter: Quartile report

From an e-mail that I received from Quartile today:

North Queensland market heats up

Unlike many southern states and parts of south-east Queensland, Northern Queensland isn’t feeling any market cooling. According to the Real Estate Institute of Queensland (REIQ), the Northern Queensland residential property market is outperforming the rest of Queensland with median house prices rising in the September quarter by 2.4 percent in Townsville and by 2.1 percent in Cairns. With vacancy rates at 1.8 percent for residential units in Cairns, much of the demand is tipped as being fuelled by interstate investors.

---- the following is my own observation:

The number of 4 bedroom house in Mt. Sheridan has dropped much faster than other suburbs in Cairns, indicating the area is hot. It is may be this is a relatively new suburb, so there are not many who want to sell after purchasing a house not too long ago.


shu
 
a $400 m project in Cairns: what is the implication?

Hi, Guys:

I just read this news from Quartile, does anyone have any thoughts on it? Would such a large project (in Cairns standard) generate more jobs and thus help the local property market or supply too many new houses that puts pressure on the house prices?

{ Developers are digging deep to acquire development sites at present. Although some developments will be held off for a number of years, the recent buyers’ market in the southern states and the growth market in far north Queensland is proving too tempting to resist.

Appropriately in this week of horse racing, we see that Sydney’s Trafalgar Corporation have acquired Cairns’ Cannon Park racecourse for a $400 million residential project.

Mr Mark Davidson of Trafalgar Corporation said that the Cannon Park site could accommodate up to 1200 dwellings in a master planned estate and would be developed over eight to twelve years. Stockland and Multiplex in a joint bid with Cairns based developers, CEC, also showed keen interest in the site.

In Melbourne, Drapac Property has spent $6 million on a development site in South Melbourne to build a large residential complex. The new owner is however, expected to lease out the property until deciding on any works and have no immediate plans to complete a new development.

The Westpac bank site in Sydney’s Rose Bay has been purchased for over $6 million as the final acquisition in a proposed mixed residential and shopping development. Eventually it will be redeveloped but, according to the developers, that is a long term plan. }

shu
 
UPDATE ON Cairns Property Market

Yuan Shu said:
From an e-mail that I received from Quartile today:

North Queensland market heats up

Unlike many southern states and parts of south-east Queensland, Northern Queensland isn’t feeling any market cooling. According to the Real Estate Institute of Queensland (REIQ), the Northern Queensland residential property market is outperforming the rest of Queensland with median house prices rising in the September quarter by 2.4 percent in Townsville and by 2.1 percent in Cairns. With vacancy rates at 1.8 percent for residential units in Cairns, much of the demand is tipped as being fuelled by interstate investors.

Yuan Shu said:
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Dear Yuan Shu,

1. According to Herrod Todd White Valuers, the Cairns property market was nearing its peak at about 11 o'clock as at October 2004. It was only 9 o'clock in July 2003 in a fast rising market situation when I first visited Cairns.

2. Recent REIQ figures has also shown that median house prices for some suburbs like Trinity Beach and Palm Cove has also corrected signifcantly downwards during the September 2004 quarter.

3. Personally, I am expecting the Cairns property market to officially "peak" over the next few months followed by a declining market siutation after that. The market will probably start to fall from mid/late 2005 onwards.

4. Please be careful and do your own due diligence before further investing in this market.

5. I am presently in Cairns since 5th November 2004. I will be flying back to Singapore via Brisbane over the next 2 days.

regards,
Kenneth KOH
 
Hi Kenneth,
I was in Cairns a few weeks ago. I am in no position to disagree with your statements regarding the timing of the market peak and your predicted decline, however, I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of construction underway, particularly in the CBD and at the number of tourists. It all looks like "boom" times to me, but we shall have to wait and see.
The PM for one of my properties suggested we may be able to increase the rent soon, which is unusual, as I am normally the one who raises this. Her comments indicate that the rental market at the moment is quite healthy :) .

Regards,
Chris.
 
Hi guys,
Just had a phone call from our PM letting us know that our current tenants lease will be up mid December . The rent will go up from $340pw to $360 and he already has new tenants ready to go in 2nd January on a two year lease. All we need do is give the interior a paint which we are happy to do. We will also get a valuation done since it is 1 year since we bought so I'll let you know how that goes.
Di
 
We didn't do anything. Our property manager can take the credit. Our prospective new tenant (nothing signed yet) from what I was told is on council.
It's funny you know, being still fairly new to the IP game, I didn't really think much of it (two year lease) when the PM told me. Ahhh well still lots to learn!!
Di
 
Thanks Geoff,
and thanks to this forum because that gave us the confidence to take the first step. Obviously my research has paid off and that will certainly give me confidence to make decisions based on that and not necessarily what everyone around me is saying (due diligence I thing they call it).
There is only one way from here and that is up up up!!!!!!!
Di
 
Cairns property prices: economic/population influence

Dear Kenneth:

Good to hear your response, and glad to know you are located in Singapore. How was the trip to Cairns? Your first hand experience will be highly appreciated. I had chances to invest in other cities in Australia (like Townsville, Canberra, etc.), but I found Cairns the best. It may be a little bit late now, however. You are right, it may peak sometime. In the long run, like 10 years, Cairns is surely a good place. The population has gone up 3000 last year (see previous post by others). If we assume 3 persons make up a family, then 1000 families came to Cairns last year, and thus need 1000 houses/units. According to REIQ, there were about 450 houses sold in the 3 months ended June 30, 2004. (I do not remember the number of units sold). Thus, the new settlers can take up to half-year's houses !

How are we sure that more people will come this year, and next year and beyond? I guess we can assume the following factors that will entice people to come:

(1) Weather (pretty good most time, at least 5C lower that Singapore on average)

(2) Good landscope/scenery (excellent, at least from photos and from my visit last March/April)

(3) Employment (as long as tourists keep coming, it will be good)

(4) Good facilities (buses, hospitals, university, schools, shopping malls, highways, etc., quite reasonalable for Cairns. I saw a few time on Singapore buses the advertisements for J. Cook Univ.)

(6) Affordable housing and food and other daily needs (Average house prices is about 245 K as of June 2004 by REIQ data)

I have a 4-bed room house, by God's grace, in Canberra which I estimate to be worthy of about A$450k to 520K. Similar houses in good locations in Cairns sell for about 350K. But I looked up the house hold incomes, and found no much big difference between Cairns and Canberra. Many households in Cairns make about 1000 $ per week, and in the area where my Canberra house is located, the income is also about $1000 per week.

By the way, I got the following news from the web. There is a fast train that runs from Brisbane to Cairns. Thus it brings in visitors to Cairns.

regards and by for now. shu

{ World's fastest on narrow tracks
November 17, 2004, Sydney Morning Herald

Australia's fastest train has been a popular and trouble-free way of travelling through tropical Queensland, especially for pensioners and backpackers.

Despite competing in an era of heavily discounted air travel, the high-speed tilt train service between Brisbane and Cairns had almost 70,000 passengers in its first year of operation.

Although the full price of a one-way trip from Brisbane to Cairns is $280, pensioners can travel for as little as $22.

The train completes the 1680-kilometre journey in 25 hours, seven hours less than the previous rail service.

Electric Tilt Trains were introduced in Queensland in 1998 and originally ran the 640 kilometres between Brisbane and Rockhampton, cutting a couple of hours off that trip.

The service expanded to the Brisbane-Cairns route last year, with a diesel-powered locomotive pulling nine carriages.

Tilt Trains use technology that enables them to take bends faster. They are the world's fastest trains running on narrow-gauge rail.
AdvertisementAdvertisement

In Queensland, they travel at speeds of up to 160kmh, and one Tilt Train in 1999 set a national rail speed record of 210kmh, beating the previous record of 193kmh by an XPT train in NSW.

The Tilt Trains had experienced just one minor incident, due to a switching error in 2000, before Monday night's crash near Bundaberg, which left more than 100 people injured.

Queensland Rail is the first rail network in Australia to introduce Tilt Trains.}







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Dear Yuan Shu,

1. According to Herrod Todd White Valuers, the Cairns property market was nearing its peak at about 11 o'clock as at October 2004. It was only 9 o'clock in July 2003 in a fast rising market situation when I first visited Cairns.

2. Recent REIQ figures has also shown that median house prices for some suburbs like Trinity Beach and Palm Cove has also corrected signifcantly downwards during the September 2004 quarter.

3. Personally, I am expecting the Cairns property market to officially "peak" over the next few months followed by a declining market siutation after that. The market will probably start to fall from mid/late 2005 onwards.

4. Please be careful and do your own due diligence before further investing in this market.

5. I am presently in Cairns since 5th November 2004. I will be flying back to Singapore via Brisbane over the next 2 days.

regards,
Kenneth KOH[/QUOTE]
 
Thanks for your encouraging view on Cairns - I live in Cairns so nice to hear other peoples opinions of Cairns.

Re:the Tilt train, well, unfortunately it tilted a little too much and won't be carrying any passengers for a good long while. Too bad.
 
Update on Cairns

Yuan Shu said:
Dear Kenneth:

Good to hear your response, and glad to know you are located in Singapore. How was the trip to Cairns? Your first hand experience will be highly appreciated. I had chances to invest in other cities in Australia (like Townsville, Canberra, etc.), but I found Cairns the best. It may be a little bit late now, however. You are right, it may peak sometime. In the long run, like 10 years, Cairns is surely a good place. The population has gone up 3000 last year (see previous post by others). If we assume 3 persons make up a family, then 1000 families came to Cairns last year, and thus need 1000 houses/units. According to REIQ, there were about 450 houses sold in the 3 months ended June 30, 2004. (I do not remember the number of units sold). Thus, the new settlers can take up to half-year's houses !

How are we sure that more people will come this year, and next year and beyond? I guess we can assume the following factors that will entice people to come:

(1) Weather (pretty good most time, at least 5C lower that Singapore on average)

(2) Good landscope/scenery (excellent, at least from photos and from my visit last March/April)

(3) Employment (as long as tourists keep coming, it will be good)

(4) Good facilities (buses, hospitals, university, schools, shopping malls, highways, etc., quite reasonalable for Cairns. I saw a few time on Singapore buses the advertisements for J. Cook Univ.)

(6) Affordable housing and food and other daily needs (Average house prices is about 245 K as of June 2004 by REIQ data)

I have a 4-bed room house, by God's grace, in Canberra which I estimate to be worthy of about A$450k to 520K. Similar houses in good locations in Cairns sell for about 350K. But I looked up the house hold incomes, and found no much big difference between Cairns and Canberra. Many households in Cairns make about 1000 $ per week, and in the area where my Canberra house is located, the income is also about $1000 per week.

By the way, I got the following news from the web. There is a fast train that runs from Brisbane to Cairns. Thus it brings in visitors to Cairns.

regards and by for now. shu

{ World's fastest on narrow tracks
November 17, 2004, Sydney Morning Herald

Australia's fastest train has been a popular and trouble-free way of travelling through tropical Queensland, especially for pensioners and backpackers.

Despite competing in an era of heavily discounted air travel, the high-speed tilt train service between Brisbane and Cairns had almost 70,000 passengers in its first year of operation.

Although the full price of a one-way trip from Brisbane to Cairns is $280, pensioners can travel for as little as $22.

The train completes the 1680-kilometre journey in 25 hours, seven hours less than the previous rail service.

Electric Tilt Trains were introduced in Queensland in 1998 and originally ran the 640 kilometres between Brisbane and Rockhampton, cutting a couple of hours off that trip.

The service expanded to the Brisbane-Cairns route last year, with a diesel-powered locomotive pulling nine carriages.

Tilt Trains use technology that enables them to take bends faster. They are the world's fastest trains running on narrow-gauge rail.
AdvertisementAdvertisement

In Queensland, they travel at speeds of up to 160kmh, and one Tilt Train in 1999 set a national rail speed record of 210kmh, beating the previous record of 193kmh by an XPT train in NSW.

The Tilt Trains had experienced just one minor incident, due to a switching error in 2000, before Monday night's crash near Bundaberg, which left more than 100 people injured.

Queensland Rail is the first rail network in Australia to introduce Tilt Trains.}

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Dear Yuan Shu,

1 Not to mention more domestic flights by Jestar from Cairns to Brisbane and vice versa this year, with further plans for more flights expansion from Cairns-Melbourne and Cairns-Sydney air routes in the near future.

2. I know also that the rental market is tightening at 2.4%, according to Herron|Todd White Valuers' data and my own ground observations. Hence, I am personally not surprised about the rental increase mentioned by some of the members.

3. While I am personally optmistic about the projected population increase in Cairns, I also think that the continued high employment figures its too largely dependant on its tourism industry. Another SAR or 9/11 bombing related events will drastically change the projected population outcome.

4. Furthermore, bearing in mind how the last prolonged (heavy) market correction in the Cairn property market from 1998 till 2002 following its last market/price peak in 1997, and the current feedback on the ground such as heavy price correction for the Northern beaches areas like Palm cove and Trinity Beach, Whitfeld etc and feedback from the real estate agents that what takes to be sold in 2 weeks last year is now taking 6 months to sell now, I rather act cautiously and err on the cautious side for my own assessment, rather than to continue to believe that this present property boom in Cairns will continue indefinitely.

5. To what I know too, the investors activity in the Cairns property market has also far exceeded the usual level, both from the southern inter-state and international property investors. Thus when a market correction takes place, we can expect these investors to suddenly exit from the market in successive waves, thereby adding to the price fall momenteum. Just be cautious and do your own due diligence before you invest. For those who have invested in Cairns, continue to monitor the market closely and do your due diligence and adapt your situation to the emerging changing market situation.

6. Well, I sincerely hope that my own assessment is "wrong" for the sake of those members who have invested in the Cairns property market. Nonetheless, it is just my own personal honest assessment on the Cairns property market. Do your own dilgience and decide for yourself how the Cairns property market is likely to move over the next 6-12 months time.

7. Thank you.

regards,
Kenneth KOH
 
Latest Information

I have just returned from another visit to my favourite place (Cairns). We were renovating one of the townhouses and as usual it was relet within days of our putting it up for rent.

I am reprinting an article I picked up from the Cairns Post from yesterday for all you fellow Cairns Investors:

The Cairns Post
Edition 1TUE 30 NOV 2004, Page 009
Property prices continue to soar
By Roger Dickson (Property writer)


HOUSE prices in Cairns are continuing to increase with the typical three-bedroom home worth $54,250 more than at the same time last year.
And the once unfashionable inner suburbs of Mooroobool, Manoora and Manunda (known as the `three Ms') and Bungalow are leading the way, latest Real Estate Institute of Queensland figures show.
While most of the rest of the country and southern Queensland went backwards the median house price in Cairns posted a respectable gain of almost 2 per cent in the September quarter - from $243,000 to $247,500 - less half of the previous quarter but still better than most other areas in the State.
Trinity Park fared best with an 18.8 per cent gain followed by Gordonvale with 17.4 per cent and Bungalow with 12.5 per cent.
The three Ms were led by Mooroobool with 13.1 per cent followed by Manunda with 10.8 per cent and Manoora with a 7 per cent gain.
Unit price gains overall were more impressive than houses, defying expectations of a declining market by climbing from $143,000 to $150,000 and posting a gain of 4.9 per cent, up by 1.1 per cent on the June quarter and $15,000 over the past 12 months.
Palm Cove led the way with a thumping 42.8 per cent rise followed by Bungalow on 27 per cent and Manunda on 21.1 per cent.
The big loser locally was the Douglas Shire.
While Port Douglas median house prices rose an impressive 7.5 per cent, houses at Mossman dropped 11.8 per cent and the median price of unit in Port Douglas fell 16.3 per cent.
The Gold Coast market moved downwards between the June and September quarters, with median house prices down by 1.4 per cent and median unit prices off by 1.9 per cent.
REIQ research director Fiona Bergin said while North Queensland median house prices improved, it appeared to have slowed from the healthy gains seen in the June quarter.
"This leaves house prices in Cairns up by just over 28 per cent on the same time last year - an extremely impressive gain," she said.
Ms Bergin said prices had declined across the southeast between the June and September quarters with house prices in the Brisbane area declining by 4.2 per cent.
"But REIQ figures show that the average number of days a property takes to sell in Brisbane has decreased in recent months, which is a sign the market is becoming more buoyant," she said.

Top 5
BEST PERFORMERS
SEPT quarter
TRINITY PARK 18.8%
GORDONVALE 17.4%
MOOROOBOOL 13.1%
BUNGALOW 12.5%
MANUNDA 10.8%

WORST PERFORMERS
SEPT quarter
WESTCOURT -9.1%
CARAVONICA -8.4%
EARLVILLE -8.1%
BAYVIEW HEIGHTS -7.3%
BENTLEY PARK -4.7%
 
performance said:
We didn't do anything. Our property manager can take the credit. Our prospective new tenant (nothing signed yet) from what I was told is on council.
It's funny you know, being still fairly new to the IP game, I didn't really think much of it (two year lease) when the PM told me. Ahhh well still lots to learn!!
Di
That's why Jim Pla is the best property manager in Cairns. :)
 
Cairns properties / my experience in Australia

Dear Kenneth:

Your comments were excellent. Thanks !

About the current market in Australia:

Back in 1993, I visited Australia for the first time, and stayed with a friend in Bankstown area then. He bought a brand new four bed room house for about $180k (If I rememer correctly). I am not sure how much it would cost to do so now, 400K or 500K?

Back in 1995, I was in Canberra, 4-bed rooms could be easily bought for about $150K. I left Australia for Singapore in mid 1998. That time, there were plenty of 3 bed rooms for about 120K. A neighbour bought a brand new house (I guess 3-bed room house) in the ourskirt of Canberra for about 85K! I made an offer to a 4-bed room house in an average suburb (I guess a bit above the average) for about $140K, and the seller was asking for $154K, so it did not gone through. Nowadays, these prices were gone with the wind. Any four bed room house will cost you above $350K in Canberra, many over 600K!

It has been only less than 10 years !

I think it is not too bad NOW to get any house in Cairns for 10 years. Of course, it would be much better to have bought one 2 years ago, but in year 2014, the current prices will look very cheap.

However, look what happened in Singapore over the past 10-20 years ! The town house I am renting now was bought by the owner in 1997 for then S$ 1.3 m (about 1.2 m A$ then). It would be good if it would fetch S$90K now (about A$ 700K). So in about 7 years, the owner lost A$ 500K (0.5 m A$)! This house when first built in 1982-1982 (22 years ago), it was sold for about S$ 650K ! Back in 1996-1997, the housing market in Singapore was very hot (I guess hotter than Cairns), after rising almost non-stop from about 1990. (Correct me if I am wrong, as I only came to Singapore in 1998).

A friend of mine recently bought a HDB (government housing) for about S$170k ( ~ A$134K). This flat was selling only for ~ S$ 15K about 20 years ago. {Most Singaporean live in such HDBs).

So in 20 years time, the price of a house is most likely up (surely better than the inflation). The history of properties in the world is that most big cities are always up over long term (at least for the past 20-30 years), except Germany (due to reunification), Japan (way too hot in the late 1980s), Singapore/Hong Kong (betting on the return of Hong Kong to China). It was said that the palace in Tokyo in 1989 was worth more than the whole California ! No wonder the Japan had a tough property market since 1990.

Got to go now.


shu

Kennethkohsg said:
Yuan Shu said:
Dear Kenneth:


1 Not to mention more domestic flights by Jestar from Cairns to Brisbane and vice versa this year, with further plans for more flights expansion from Cairns-Melbourne and Cairns-Sydney air routes in the near future.

2. I know also that the rental market is tightening at 2.4%, according to Herron|Todd White Valuers' data and my own ground observations. Hence, I am personally not surprised about the rental increase mentioned by some of the members.

3. While I am personally optmistic about the projected population increase in Cairns, I also think that the continued high employment figures its too largely dependant on its tourism industry. Another SAR or 9/11 bombing related events will drastically change the projected population outcome.

4. Furthermore, bearing in mind how the last prolonged (heavy) market correction in the Cairn property market from 1998 till 2002 following its last market/price peak in 1997, and the current feedback on the ground such as heavy price correction for the Northern beaches areas like Palm cove and Trinity Beach, Whitfeld etc and feedback from the real estate agents that what takes to be sold in 2 weeks last year is now taking 6 months to sell now, I rather act cautiously and err on the cautious side for my own assessment, rather than to continue to believe that this present property boom in Cairns will continue indefinitely.

5. To what I know too, the investors activity in the Cairns property market has also far exceeded the usual level, both from the southern inter-state and international property investors. Thus when a market correction takes place, we can expect these investors to suddenly exit from the market in successive waves, thereby adding to the price fall momenteum. Just be cautious and do your own due diligence before you invest. For those who have invested in Cairns, continue to monitor the market closely and do your due diligence and adapt your situation to the emerging changing market situation.

6. Well, I sincerely hope that my own assessment is "wrong" for the sake of those members who have invested in the Cairns property market. Nonetheless, it is just my own personal honest assessment on the Cairns property market. Do your own dilgience and decide for yourself how the Cairns property market is likely to move over the next 6-12 months time.

7. Thank you.

regards,
Kenneth KOH
 
Information (Cairns post)

chrispy said:
I have just returned from another visit to my favourite place (Cairns). We were renovating one of the townhouses and as usual it was relet within days of our putting it up for rent.

Hi, Chrispy:

Your information from Cairns Post is quite useful to us who do not go there often. Keep posting if you have more in the future.

regards

shu
 
Up to December: Cairns loan data from Commonwealth Bank

I just got the data from Commonwealth Bank's on-line Property Value Guide:

Median propertie value (houses, x $1000)

Cairns (zipcode: 4870):

Jan Feb, ..., Dec. 2004

240, 240, 235, 255, 245, 268, 250, 250, 275, 271, 290, 290


Cairns (zipcode: 4868)

190, 194, 190, 230, 237, 230, 214, 230, 238, 250, 247, 248


The lines look up-trend, no leveling off sign (but maybe in the next few months they will level off).

shu
 
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