can you really protect your assets being a male?

Actually, I've been told by someone who deals with this a lot that it often is all fine and dandy between ex partners. They mutually agree on how to split things and things are friendly enough... until one of them finds a new partner. The new partners often stir things up... "you deserve a bigger slice" etc.

He said he sees this scenario played out often.
 
...although it hasnt been all solid legal advice since we dont have any family court lawyers on here...

I suppose I didn't make it clear before, but I practice in family law among other things. Although admittedly I don't practice extensively in family law property.

And there are actually quite a few things a person can do to "protect" their assets in a potential family law dispute, apart from simply not getting into another marriage or de facto relationship.

Although you really seem to have made up your mind that some woman is going to take 70% - 80% of your stuff no matter what the circumstances - so I'm not sure whether you would believe any advice I gave.
 
I thought traditional heterosexual marriage itself does a good job at eroding family - what I thought we were discussing here infact :confused:.

Kathryn, are you insinuating defactos and gays contribute or are responsible for divorces and bad behaviour in married men and women?
 
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I suppose I didn't make it clear before, but I practice in family law among other things. Although admittedly I don't practice extensively in family law property.

And there are actually quite a few things a person can do to "protect" their assets in a potential family law dispute, apart from simply not getting into another marriage or de facto relationship.

Although you really seem to have made up your mind that some woman is going to take 70% - 80% of your stuff no matter what the circumstances - so I'm not sure whether you would believe any advice I gave.

Ok then , please tell us bitter paranoid men what are a few ways to protect ourselves other then to never associate or go near the opposite sex

I'd love to learn a thing or too soi can practice it
 
This thread needs the ‘Disregard Females, Acquire Currency’ meme stat!

Thy Will be done!

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Actually, I've been told by someone who deals with this a lot that it often is all fine and dandy between ex partners. They mutually agree on how to split things and things are friendly enough... until one of them finds a new partner. The new partners often stir things up... "you deserve a bigger slice" etc.

He said he sees this scenario played out often.

yep see this a lot, one partner thinks all is good , keep it nice and then bang a letter arrives in the mail written as aggressively as possible by lawyer in the hope it will cause heaps of fighting and last for years. often inspired by friend or new partner who gets in the ear at a weak moment.
 
Mark- if women are the best at rearing children, they should be the ones to get custody. You can't have it both ways.

You want women to be kept at home to spend much of their time looking after the children while the man goes out to work. But if they split, you want that same man to have an equal right to have custody of those same children. That's inconsistent.
Was this one meant for me? :confused:

I wish Canada didn't allow gay marriages. IMO is another erosion of the family.
I don't agree with you this time, Kathryn.

Considering that supposedly approx 50% of marriages end in divorce, I don't think that the traditional "family" unit we are all accustomed to is necessarily the best and/or the only way to raise a well-adjusted and contributing citizen.

I know quite a few gays (and my cousin was married to his male partner in London a few years ago) and without exception, the ones I know are warm, loving, intelligent people.

They would make great parents in my view, and I don't think the lack of a mother (gay parents) or father (lesbian parents) would have any more detrimental effect on the upbringing of the children than the traditional family unit.

I am the product of two broken marriages, and many years without a father before adulthood (explains a lot probably :D), and I think I am mostly a decent contributor to society...my bitter and twisted views notwithstanding :D.

We are now in our 19th year of marriage with 3 beautiful kids, even though I'd like to drop them on their head from time to time. :p

So, my point is; as long as the parents are providing the love and guidance - and input - into their kids, the kids will be mostly fine....no guarantees with any situation of course.

Given all this, I can't see any probs with a same-sex parenting team.

Bring on same sex marriage, I say.

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A couple we know live within a short walking distance to each other and maintain separate houses they each live in.

Often on the weekend both can be seen working in each others garden or sitting on the patio having coffee, they go out frequently during the week as well. eg dancing and meals out.

They have their own separate hobbies eg car restoration and lots of separate and joint friends to socialise with.


Regards
Sheryn
 
My self....married 21 years on the 28 th of the month . A house full of teenagers where I have my work cut out finding somewhere to relax without noise :confused:

I don't actually really know any gay people but I have no problem there . Young gay people tend to move to the cities where they can enjoy anonyminity I notice .
Have no problem here with gay marriage .

I agree with TC , this whole thread is a bit embarrassing . It's sure hit a nerve though .
 
I got burnt big time when I split up with my partner, I ended up losing almost 70% of my assets...


TMNT
Sorry to read that you are still grieving for the loss of your assets.


This is a little different...shoe on the other foot.

A girl moved into her own unit a few years ago, she wanted her boyfriend to move in but he wouldn't move in if he had to pay board as he had free board at home with his father and only as casual employment.

So he moved in and has not paid one cent towards the cost of the unit (repayments & repairs or maintenance even when he breaks something himself) and when he doesn't have any work he doesn't contribute to the weekly household bills ( grocery, gas and electricity), last time I heard that was $72 a week.

If any work is to be done to the yard eg. plants, mulching etc the female buys and does most of the work.

Boyfriend did pave the 16 square metre patio over 5 or was it 7 months of course the girl paid for all materials and helped move the pavers.

To get the yard mowed most times the female comes home from work and starts the mowing hoping boyfriend will come home and help.

Now if I was you I would look out for a female like the above as the girl decided she did not want to do a personal financial binding agreement to protect her assets.

This girl doesn't think her boyfriend would ask for for half her assets BUT even if he did this girl understands she has the skills, ability and work ethic to continue on living her life.

There are decent fair minded girls out there looking for decent fair minded boyfriends.


Let me know if you are coming over our way as I just though of a friends' daughter who has given up looking for a decent male!
 
To the OP

I would have thought it was abundantly clear by now from the first page of this thread that you can't protect your assets - as a male or as a female.
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If you wish to protect your assets you can, however:
1 - Start a relationship with someone significantly more wealthy than you, to improve the odds of a more favourable settlement in the event of a split; or
2 - Not get into a relationship at all.

You need to decide which is more important - the loving companionship of a long term partner as you travel through life together - or your assets.

Which is more important to you? Which will make you happy?

This. TMNT, as there appears to be insufficient protection in law for your liking, these are your two options. Easy!

Okay we can close the thread now... I'm off to fix world poverty :p
 
TMNT
Sorry to read that you are still grieving for the loss of your assets.


This is a little different...shoe on the other foot.


Let me know if you are coming over our way as I just though of a friends' daughter who has given up looking for a decent male!

cheers, im quite over it, like i said , the small loss catapolted me into action into my portfolio to such a position that Im quite grateful!!!! (not that I will ever tell her)

there are lots of decent males out there, you cant blame them for being a bit cynical in todays world of feminism, family law, materialism, media,

she'll be right! just takes a bit of time and effort
 
How so? How does gay marriage erode family?

Atheist actually.The following are my opinions, and I don't ask anyone to agree with me.

Everyone wants to pretend that being gay is normal, when it isn't.
I have worked with a lot of gay people, and almost in every case there is sexual child abuse in their childhood and mental issues now.

Erosion of the traditional family comes in many forms.
The ease of welfare is probably the biggest erosion of the family.
Welfare available to single mums.They don't give a second thought to having a child, because welfare is there to protect them, should a pregnancy occur.
Instead of 'poverty' declining, it is increasing.

Welfare to women leaving their spouses/partners. How many would leave if they knew there wasn't any welfare,child raising was split 50/50, and they would only split the assets acquired during their marriage 50/50?
...before someone starts, I am not referring to staying when there is domestic violence.

Defacto couples are fine when no children are involved. My ex and I lived together for 2 years before we got married and started a family.(we were married 20 yrs)

Gay couples are fine, as long as no children are brought into the relationship.
We have had several gay couples as tenants. The women are extremely messy and neurotic, and the males are tidy and neurotic.

Weg,
No I am not insinuating that defactos and gays contribute or are responsible for divorces and bad behaviour in married men and women.
Divorces usually occur because of problems with communication or finances.

Governments are giving all the rights and benefits to couples who are not legally married. Seems it is against the law to be married to 2 people at the same time, but not illegal to live with 2 people.

Eventually paedophilia will be considered normal behavior, if we can't get back on track with a traditional family.

traditional family=Mum, Dad and children living together as a family unit
 
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^^^^ i am not sure if 100% of gay people have been abused while they are young, but I doubt it, but im staying out of that argument,

i too agree that its natural for a child to have one male and female parent,

I am all for gay people being a couple,

but I dont think gay people should be able to adopt, its natural for a child to have both parents,

and for those that are going to argue that 33% of marriages end up in divorce and the kid only has 1 parent any way, thats 66% of the married couples having kids with 2 different parents around

if gay people could adopt, it would be 0% of the children having 2 hetero parents, if nature 2 gay parents to raise children, then they would be able to reproduce naturally,

just like 50 yr old women cant have children,
 
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