'Fast Eddy', the man..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/27/2347609.htm

Until six months ago, the world's biggest child care operator, ABC Learning, looked like one of Australia's great corporate success stories.
Looks can be deceiving, as ABC's investors discovered the hard way.
Beneath the smiling veneer there is deep trouble in the kids' kingdom, Australia's most heavily Federal Government-subsidised company.
ABC Learning requested a trading halt on its shares four days ago, as a deadline loomed for its latest financial results.
Bear in mind the company had already flagged that it would have to declare a pre-tax loss of $437 million - information that triggered a further slump in the share price.
That has now fallen from last year's high of $8.80 to just 57 cents at the latest trading halt.
No doubt investors can expect more soothing rhetoric from the multi-millionaire founder and CEO Eddy Groves, but there are many who are no longer listening.
The rise and rise of enigmatic founder, known to many market analysts as 'Fast Eddy' for the speed of his speech, now seems somewhat souffle-esque, as bank lenders, government, prominent Australian investors and thousands of small shareholders awake to the painful reality they may have been taken for one of the biggest rides in Australian corporate history.
Deborah Brennan, a professor at the University of NSW Social Policy Research Centre, says ABC Learning could be one of the most spectacular public policy disasters seen in recent time.
"[It] is something that could become a case study, I think, in many business schools and public policy schools around the world," she said.
IMF Australia's John Walker says his company was approached by shareholders involved in ABC Learning, and was asked to look at whether or not there were potential breaches of the Corporations Act.
He found that the company never really made money over the last four years.
Mr Groves managed to attract finance to spawn an empire of 1,136 ABC child care centres across Australia, 2,000 across the globe, and in so doing, mislead the market, the nation and the world as to the company's financial viability.
"I didn't buy it five years ago, I didn't buy it three years ago, I didn't buy it last year and I wouldn't buy it today," Clime Capital's Roger Montgomery said.

'Fast Eddy', the man


Mr Groves is a gambler with a high-rolling history in casinos from the Gold Coast to Las Vegas.
But his ballooning child care corporation, established in partnership with his wife Le Neve, from whom he separated, gambled mainly with other people's money - and lots of it.
Behind the facade was a massive real estate play, but on the surface a listed child care service, which attracted a total of $3.5 billion in bank securities, investors' money, and heavy federal government subsidies.
It was the equivalent of $1 million a day in child care rebates. All of which were then filtered through a labyrinth of private companies closely related to Mr Groves himself.
The first ABC Learning acquisitions and the 1, 2, 3 Global group of companies were privately owned by the elusive Don Jones and his wife Heather, until this month when she ceased to be a director.
As Mr Jones' company individually employs less than 50 people, they are not required to lodge financial returns with ASIC.
Professor Brennan says as business analysts and researchers dig more deeply into ABC Learning, it is becoming clear that the company did not make the profits it did in the past through bulk-buying nappies.
"We are actually talking about a very complex corporate structure, and I think that the guardians of the public purse have really not been watching closely enough what has been happening," she said.
Sadly, Mr Groves was not available for interview.
We hoped to ask him why, having raised almost $3.5 billion over 3.5 years, ABC needed to raise even more money in June just to pay the interest on its bank securities.
Where has the money gone? Has profitability been an illusion, given the costly questions the new auditors have posed about previous accounting practices?
It appears from 2005 until 2007 ABC paid about $1,040 million to buy leases and childcare licences from so-called developers - particularly Mr Jones' companies - who would return funds back to the centre to achieve its budgeted revenue.

Profitability


Everything looked rosy as, under the old auditors, payments from these developers were not disclosed but were shown as revenue, without which ABC's profitability was poor to non-existent. Take, for example, 2006.
The IMF's Mr Walker says that 20 to 25 per cent of that year's profit earnings were derived from the sale of the right to provide employees to ABC-owned centres.
"About 20 odd per cent of that year's profit, by way of example, just wasn't as stated," he said.
"Similarly, the financial transactions that the company's entered into with developers, it turns out - and only recently disclosed - that a big portion of earnings is being derived by transactions with developers."
Though Mr Groves denies these are related party transactions, Mr Jones' companies have principally operated from ABC headquarters or offices. ABC's CEO was known to have been active in establishing at least one of them.
Mr Jones' companies appear to have received at least $880 million from ABC Learning.
If Mr Jones' companies are not related to Mr Groves', Queensland Maintenance Services (QMS), formerly known as Groves Corporation 2, run by Mr Groves' brother-in-law Frank Zullo, is.
QMS, listed at the same address as Mr Groves, was awarded $74 million for un-tendered work for ABC in 2006 alone - $100 million between 2003 and 2006.
When accounting issues began to emerge and the new auditors in February revealed a 42 per cent slump in half yearly profits, triggering a 70 per cent fall in shares, Mr Groves berated hedge funds for short selling his company stock.
Sadly that day, shareholders of this great Australian company got their first glimpse of ABC's modus operandi.
But ABC Learning centres soon set about re-branding many of its child care facilities, delegating their operation to a company called Neighbourhood Early Learning Centres, a private company owned by Mr Groves' brother-in-law.
Mr Walker says there was speculation as to whether or not they were arm's-length transactions.
"The concern of the market though, is that it wasn't informed of the fact that these transactions were generating or purporting to generate revenue being derived from the transaction rather than from fees being paid by parents," he said.

Domination


Before the new auditors lanced Mr Groves' burgeoning balloon, forcing a sale of assets, ABC was gluttonously gobbling up child care centres from the UK to America.
Last year, Mr Jones' 1, 2, 3 Global companies began approaching child care centres across Canada, triggering a wave of protests. ABC Learning denied any involvement, but the Canadians didn't believe them.
Professor Brennan was flown to Canada to talk about ABC Learning in Australia.
"It was a very strong activist and early childhood community in Canada that really wanted to ensure that public money is used for the benefit of children, and not for the growth of enormous private and corporate profits," she said.
"Canadians were asking me when I was over there 'How come you have designed a system that's allowed one individual to become the richest person in Australia under 40, and yet you have a system with poor quality standards, where 40 per cent of the staff have no qualifications whatsoever?'"

Huge losses


But there are many who have bought the Mr Groves story completely.
The Singapore Government's investment company last year spent $400 million buying shares at $7.30, to buy 12 per cent of the company, which has so far lost around $350 million in value.
And the Commonwealth Bank is believed to have almost a half a billion dollar exposure to ABC in loan securities or convertible notes, and another several $100 million more in senior debt.
And the Commonwealth is not alone. The total debt due for repayment in just two years is $1.45 billion.
In 2005, when he was with Merrill Lynch, Invesco's investment manager Andrew Perks was attacked after expressing concerns about ABC's tendency to overpay for acquisitions and how the company inflated the values of intangibles or non-physical assets such as brands.
"It was a market darling, it was fast growing, it was raising lots of equity, it was raising lots of debt, that's very attractive to bankers and to stockbrokers. But when I looked at it I was concerned that the ultimate shareholder might not have been sharing in that upside," he said.
"The asset side was largely intangible. I think it got up to almost $3 billion Aussie dollars at the end of June 2007.
"I am not sure what it would be at the end of '08, we are still waiting on that. And to put that into perspective that's almost three times the level of BHP."
Strong concerns about ABC's questionable revenues were directly brought to the attention of the regulator ASIC in 2006, but ASIC chose not to act.
The Federal Government also remains amongst the believers, even after its recent announcement the child care rebate would be increased to help parents cope with the increasing cost of child care, only to see ABC increase its fees.
There was little anyone could do. ABC remains Australia's biggest child care provider. But what happens if, in the worst-case scenario, it was to collapse? Assuming, of course, the banks allowed that to happen.
"I'm also quite critical of a number of politicians and policy makers, who I think have really turned a blind eye to what's been happening in child care in Australia, and who have not been very effective guardians of the public purse," Professor Brennan said.
"Without wanting to speculate at all about the future of ABC Learning, I would just make the point that such a level of exposure to a single company is a matter of great concern."
 
so should I sell my shares?

I want to buy some !!!

At 57c seems to me they will be a good deal ???

I figure that ABC is the largest Day Care provider and the Fed will not let them fold. Imagine all those Mum's off work looking after their precious little treasures:eek::eek: The price will rise agin in a year or two??

Disclaimer: I have ABSOLUTELY no idea what I am talking abut when it comes to shares. Sometimes I can just see some seemingly "obviousness" (is that a word :) ) I keep a little diary note on Outlook to track my musings and most of the time I am pretty right. One day I might go to the trouble of learning how the #$##@$ to get started in shares :confused::confused:

Cheers
Sue
 
I can see ABC going into voluntary administration and its centre's being sold off one by one. As a parent whose children have gone to ABC Centres and non ABC Centre, to be honest I prefer the non ABC centres.

For one the fee's are never as much, 2 Centres on the same street of the suburb are $10 dollars a day difference per child, so thats $50 a week per child - a full centre 70 kids Thats a differnce of $182,200 per year per centre yet they are still loosing money.
 
I can see ABC going into voluntary administration and its centre's being sold off one by one. As a parent whose children have gone to ABC Centres and non ABC Centre, to be honest I prefer the non ABC centres.

For one the fee's are never as much, 2 Centres on the same street of the suburb are $10 dollars a day difference per child, so thats $50 a week per child - a full centre 70 kids Thats a differnce of $182,200 per year per centre yet they are still loosing money.

So what would happed to the current shareholders' shares??

Sue
 
A lot of the ABC centres are lovely, it's just a shame it's runned by such poor management.

My son goes to ABC only because we have insiders knowledge of the staff and kids.

But my husband used to work for ABC and has just recently quit. Corporate management only care about paperwork, accreditation, not getting sued, publicity and profit. They don't care about the kids at all. My husbands a teacher, the kids are learning, happy and his methods are proven an dmost importantly, the parents are happy. Yet ABC says 'We want you do it our way, it's streamlined across the country.' Doesn't matter that their way doesn't work and kids do not learn literacy and numeracy. They expect too much from staff that are not really qualified for the job. How do you expect to write a 2 page report for staff with cert 3 in childcare and expect them to implement literacy and numeracy? they just keep adding to the curriculum..Music Child and Active Child etc In scools, they have dedicated music and pe teachers. They really work the staff hard.

It's so political in management.

The downfall of ABC is the poor management. Also, by increasing their fees much more than everyone else, a lot of famillies have left to other centres simply coz they can't afford it, as reluctant as they are. How can it be as simple as accountants syaing, you need to increase fees to project a profit without taking into account how it affects famillies? they're so stupid and shot themselves in the foot. Even with the quarterly rebate, how do famillies deal with the weekly cashflow situation?

I just hate ABC so much and if they're reading this, they probably know exactly who I am coz my hubby has gotten in trouble before when I mouthed off in a baby forum.
 
how a company can turn something like child care into a listed business is a conflict of interest and ABC SHOULD tank and be dissolved.

children are not cows - they are not there to make a profit for ANYONE.

putting profit ahead of quality care is a disgusting sign of apathy within the government and populace in general.

so who gets rorted? the parents paying high(er) fees than they should (ie - the "profit") or the kids in care with their food and supervision and education...? or both?

ABC Learning BOILS MY BLOOD.
 
Hi BC,

So what do you think about private schools then? Or privately owned, non-ABC Learning childcare centres? Having a listed business where children are the "customers" doesn't necessarily mean that it is a conflict of interest. Not all companies on the exchange are purely profit driven, nor do they have to be.

Cheers,

e
 
well I don't really want to see ABC crumble. They just need to get back to basics. The centres itself are wonderful, the staff are caring and nurturing and if they dissolved a lot of people will be out of jobs.

you know my husband worked in abc for almost 2 yrs, all management ever did was complain about paperwork. When the area manager came to check or complain, she never stepped foot inside the classroom, didn't care how he actually taught the kids and how smart the kids were. You have these people in head office writing the curriculum with no idea of what the rooms are actually like, they don't even have any behavoural management in place. This is the job of 20y.o certificate qualified CC workers and what can they do? scream at the kids. Screaming at kids don't work.

My husband has been doing relief teaching and in almost every school, the principal has taken the time to sit in on his classes and observe. ABC really needs to get back to basics. They expect way too much from their staff, pay too little, long hours, even have to clean the toilets etc.

The key to ABC's success is its people..they really have the resources..some of the staff in centres are brilliant but ABC doesn't know how to keep them. You wouldn't believe the high turnover of staff....everyone is like ready to quit.

ABCs mentality is why pay you what you are worth when I can get a young girl in for $17 to do the job. Look after a class of 24 kids between 4 to 5 y.o implement literacy, numeracy, music, culture etc yeah whatever.
 
Hi BC,

So what do you think about private schools then? Or privately owned, non-ABC Learning childcare centres? Having a listed business where children are the "customers" doesn't necessarily mean that it is a conflict of interest. Not all companies on the exchange are purely profit driven, nor do they have to be.

Cheers,

e

where does the profit go from private schools though? wages (good), extra curricular programs (good), better quality facilities (good) - not straight out to shareholders in dividends etc where the expectation is for these dividends to continue to increase. who is going to pay for this expected increase? rising fees will help, as will a cut in the level of care. THAT is a conflict of interest.

my children attaend a privately funded daycare centre. it costs $74 PER child PER day. they only attend one day a week, for socialisation skills before kindy. that's more for a toddler than an 80+yo in elderly care - at $64 a day.

they've learned as much at daycare as i've taught them, they have the best food (Mt Barker chicken, fresh delivered bread, all meals are cooked and prepared by a qualified child nutritionist), they have the highest accreditation in the northern suburbs - and their staff do the cleaning.

what do i think of privaely funded daycare centres? i think they're fantastic. why do i think this? the money is being spent on good wages for accredited staff at a ratio of 10:1, the food is top quality and the education is second to none. with a wait list of 40 children, it seems i'm not alone in this sentiment.

there are certainly no 20yo babysitters on $17ph there. they always have people in supervised training, and there is minimal staff rotation. each group of 2 or 3 staff members concentrate on ages 0-2, or 2-5 or before/after school care and there is seperate curriculum for each.

the daycare is Tiny Beez - Norman Pl, Karrinyup. free plug because they rock.
 
I don't believe ABC own the majority of their centres. These are owned by Austock Property Management Limited on behalf of the Australian Education Trust. The Trust is listed on the ASX (code AEU).

Assume that AEU has been battered due to 95% of centres are leased by ABC and there are concerns about them being able to continue to pay rent.

OSS
 
A lot of the ABC centres are lovely, it's just a shame it's runned by such poor management.

My son goes to ABC only because we have insiders knowledge of the staff and kids.

But my husband used to work for ABC and has just recently quit. Corporate management only care about paperwork, accreditation, not getting sued, publicity and profit. They don't care about the kids at all. My husbands a teacher, the kids are learning, happy and his methods are proven an dmost importantly, the parents are happy. Yet ABC says 'We want you do it our way, it's streamlined across the country.' Doesn't matter that their way doesn't work and kids do not learn literacy and numeracy. They expect too much from staff that are not really qualified for the job. How do you expect to write a 2 page report for staff with cert 3 in childcare and expect them to implement literacy and numeracy? they just keep adding to the curriculum..Music Child and Active Child etc In scools, they have dedicated music and pe teachers. They really work the staff hard.

It's so political in management.

The downfall of ABC is the poor management. Also, by increasing their fees much more than everyone else, a lot of famillies have left to other centres simply coz they can't afford it, as reluctant as they are. How can it be as simple as accountants syaing, you need to increase fees to project a profit without taking into account how it affects famillies? they're so stupid and shot themselves in the foot. Even with the quarterly rebate, how do famillies deal with the weekly cashflow situation?

I just hate ABC so much and if they're reading this, they probably know exactly who I am coz my hubby has gotten in trouble before when I mouthed off in a baby forum.

Hmmmmmm it must be the name. My wife Su (no "e") and you should hook up. She went on a 1 woman crusade against them. 1st through the centre manager, then the district manager, then to HO. She ended up winning.

I agree with your comments in regards to management. They have absolutely no idea. In the 5 years we've had kids going to creche (it only changed to ABC around 2-3 years ago) the staff have all changed bar 2. The best of which is now managing anoth of their centres after being tossed around from pillar to post.

In regards to them going under, many of their staff are very concerned/alarmed about the prospect. IMO it would make no difference at all if they did (except for the shareholders of course). The centres will get snapped up by individuals (probably many who sold out to them) and hopefully will ensure some competition in the industry.



Regards
Steve
 
how a company can turn something like child care into a listed business is a conflict of interest and ABC SHOULD tank and be dissolved.

children are not cows - they are not there to make a profit for ANYONE.

putting profit ahead of quality care is a disgusting sign of apathy within the government and populace in general.

so who gets rorted? the parents paying high(er) fees than they should (ie - the "profit") or the kids in care with their food and supervision and education...? or both?

ABC Learning BOILS MY BLOOD.


Wasn't northbridge identity John KIZON the west coast promoter in the news as being interested in child care centres at one stage as well
 
Hi all,

I'm fairly certain the business of the actual child care centres will continue, even if the company does go belly up.

For example from the past....

Bond Corp went belly up, they owned the Nine network, Nine was sold off by the liquidators as an entity.

Adsteam went belly up, they owned Woolworths, Woolworths was sold off by the liquidators as an entity.

Pasminco went belly up, they owned the century zinc mine, This mine (Zinifex) was sold off by the liquidators as an entity.

The real question will be asked of past auditors of the companies finances. They appear to be not doing what an auditor should be doing.

bye
 
Some more info on Fast Eddy...

http://business.smh.com.au/business/end-of-a-fairytale-20080905-4amn.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
SMH said:
Just before Christmas he sold all of his waterfront property on the Gold Coast, in what looks like a last-ditch attempt to pay down his margin loans as disaster loomed. He pocketed $11 million from the sale of his three Gold Coast waterfront properties. There was also the $2.1 million he received from the sale of a three-bedroom beach house to Harvey Norman executive, Katie Page, for $600,000 less than what he paid for the property three years previously.

The top line figure - first half earnings dropped 42 per cent to $37.1 million - was bad. But what most observers missed amid the panic over margin loans, debt covenants, and the shock drop in earnings, was a single entry deep within ABC's financial statement.

ABC reported for the first time that its revenues included $73.3 million worth of "fees paid by child-care developers" which apparently "support centres during occupancy growth". Including liquidated damages, the total fees paid by "developers" came to $110 million - more than 20 per cent of its Australian revenues for the period.

In the context of a $37 million profit it was significant, especially since no one knows what expenses were recorded against these fees. That the developer payments pumped up ABC's revenues and earnings was bad enough, but it also revealed another shocking truth - ABC's Australian business was underperforming dismally.
 
I want to buy some !!!

At 57c seems to me they will be a good deal ???

Disclaimer: I have ABSOLUTELY no idea what I am talking abut when it comes to shares.
Glad you included the disclaimer
SMH said:
The company's woeful disclosure during this period grabbed the attention of the litigation funder IMF, which is preparing a shareholder class action that could test the $144.5 million record payout by Aristocrat Leisure last month. The case is expected to focus on ABC's materially misstated earnings over previous years and bullish forecasts which "had no reasonable basis". The Australian Securities and Investments Commission is also expected to act.
 
As a parent...

I started dealing with ABC around 6 years ago.
First centre - great until kids got out of the nursery. Staff try but they are underresouced.

Went in one day to drop the kids off and found my son trying to push a bike around with little or no success. Reason being the tread between the tyres was gone and there were just two plastic discs.

I absolutely reamed out the manager and then went onto the head office - considering I was paying them circa 500+ a week thought it was pretty fair enough.

Inbetween that I went to Kmart and bought new bikes for the centre & had an intensive discussion with the abc area manager and told her that if she didnt clean up the centre I'd call the government and lodge a health and safety complaint. Next day the centre's full of new bikes and everything else.... apparently a backorder of toys.

I then had staff pull me to the side, staff said thanks but they couldnt speak up without the fear of being sacked and sued.

The incident where my daughter came home with a massive bruise on her arm and they didnt know why- 'nobody saw it or saw her crying about it' was the end of my sympathy for abc

my daughter thankfully started prep, my son switched centres. That was it for me and ABC. Sold my stock and I hope they go down the gurgler so that real quality day care for kids can be achieved by another operator.

Actually it almost sounds like a great opportunity to buy a daycare. Hmmm - I cant see myself doing any worse!
 
It's not likely their assets will be devalued significantly. Most centres are prime sites and purpose built, with a guaranteed income stream.

Biggest risk as a going concern would be a wages blow out.
 
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