Finding out immediatly when a family member passes on which you have no contact with?

[frankyfranky]

Hello,

Does anyone know what the best way would be to jump onto someones assets before others do when they pass on?

I have no contact with this family member what so ever and they have left someone as the trusteee of their will who is responsible for wrapping things up, or as i suspect quickly cashing things out for their on gain.

Can you register with a relevant government department which handles death certificates, and simply be notified when the death is registered?

I'm not sure of the process, but as far as im aware the trusteee/executor must inform other family members, but i need to assume this will not happen and take matters into my own hands.

I really need to jump into the situation right away and know when this person passes away from an asset protection perspective.

Location: QLD

Cheers

 

[Terry_w]

No, there is no alert system to allow notification of someone's death.

If the deceased has a will then they will appoint an executor as nominated in the will. If you have been left out you may be able to make a family provision claim but only if you qualify as an eligible person. If not, then you may be able to make a claim under estoppel in certain circumstances.

If no will then a family member could apply to administer the estate which will be wound up and distributed according to the laws of instestacy. You may be able to make a claim as above still.

In either cases you could lodge a caveat against the estate to prevent someone taking the role of adminstrator/executor without the courts hearing your claim.

Prob best to monitor the public notices which are needed before someone becomes executor or administrator.

 

[DaveM]

Does anyone know what the best way would be to jump onto someones assets before others do when they pass on?

I have no contact with this family member what so ever and they have left someone as the trusteee of their will who is responsible for wrapping things up, or as i suspect quickly cashing things out for their on gain.

So the only time you want contact with this person is immediately upon their death so you can claim their assets from the persons they have nominated in their will?

 

[westminster]

Do you know what is in the Will?

Why don't you contact this family member before they die rather than wanting a notification of their death so that you can jump on their assets.

Seems rather weird to me.

 

[Nemo30]

Hello,

Does anyone know what the best way would be to jump onto someones assets before others do when they pass on?

Are you serious?

Best way is to love the person and be present in their life before they die. If they choose to share their assets with you, great. If not, doesnt matter.

 

[Brian84]

You have just joined the forum with only one post and this is what you start with. I agree with the above, you want nothing to do with the person that is going to pass away soon or has passed away and you want to dig in to their assets.

 

[Kinnon Bell]

My money is on an existing member who made a new account because they're too ashamed to post under their usual nick.

 

[WattleIdo]

My money is on an existing member who made a new account because they're too ashamed to post under their usual nick.

Definitely.

 

[Scott No Mates]

Do what every other stalker does - friend them on farce booque or whatever is in vogue.

 

[geoffw]

Do what every other stalker does - friend them on farce booque or whatever is in vogue.

That's assuming the imminent deceased will update their FB status after they depart.

 

[skater]

Hello,

Does anyone know what the best way would be to jump onto someones assets before others do when they pass on?

Extremely poor form! If this is how you've dealt with this family member so far, then it is no wonder you have no contact.

 

[Macca]

I agree that it sounds a bit callous but I know of a few situations where the wishes of the deceased were ignored while others enriched themselves.

This could easily be a step father/mother/sibling situation where family memories or treasures are tossed out just to spite the unliked offspring.

I am sure we all know someone with sibling problems, quite often it is the "nasty one" who sucks up as their parents get old with the intent of "being rewarded" when they die.

The first thing they do is spread vicious lies about all the other siblings then seek to change the will in their favour.

Fortunately, this did not happen in our family but I know two where it did, not nice, financially defrauded and family shattered.

 

[willair]

Hello,

Does anyone know what the best way would be to jump onto someones assets before others do when they pass on?

I have no contact with this family member what so ever and they have left someone as the trusteee of their will who is responsible for wrapping things up, or as i suspect quickly cashing things out for their on gain.

Can you register with a relevant government department which handles death certificates, and simply be notified when the death is registered?

I'm not sure of the process, but as far as im aware the trusteee/executor must inform other family members, but i need to assume this will not happen and take matters into my own hands.

I really need to jump into the situation right away and know when this person passes away from an asset protection perspective.

Location: QLD

Cheers

One simple phone call can maybe fix this up,ask the question who had the enduring power of attorney over the persons estate,and who was making the personal and financial decisions,and "IF" there is a will ?,who are the legal people in control,just from the sidelines I have seen this happen a few times when after the solicitors or government agencies take control over the estate prior probate,people from one night stands former lovers all now hungry for attention seem to come out of the woodwork,and ruin the family forever..

 

[Brian84]

I can't see frankly replying to any comments defending himself or examining the situation.

 

[Ed Barton]

The sense of entitlement with wills is amazing.

 

[Terry_w]

One simple phone call can maybe fix this up,ask the question who had the enduring power of attorney over the persons estate,and who was making the personal and financial decisions,and "IF" there is a will ?,who are the legal people in control,just from the sidelines I have seen this happen a few times when after the solicitors or government agencies take control over the estate prior probate,people from one night stands former lovers all now hungry for attention seem to come out of the woodwork,and ruin the family forever..

A phone call to who?

 

[willair]

Good Question Terry,but I'm not a Legal trained person but I have been the sole sole executor and trustee of the will in three family estates,so my guess as franky-franky has already been informed of the estate ask the person that told him,or look up the Law Society site within the State they live in and engage a Solicitor who is specialized in this area of Law,or get a black belt in "nocando" it teaches you to walk away and let someone else deal with the problem,.

 

[Terry_w]

Good Question Terry,but I'm not a Legal trained person but I have been the sole sole executor and trustee of the will in three family estates,so my guess as franky-franky has already been informed of the estate ask the person that told him,or look up the Law Society site within the State they live in and engage a Solicitor who is specialized in this area of Law,or get a black belt in "nocando" it teaches you to walk away and let someone else deal with the problem,.

I am a solicitor that specialises in wills. There is no one to call to check on an estate before someone dies. This is a private matter. Once death occurs the legal personal representative, once appointed, is the person to contact.

After death and before appointment of the LPR the estate vests in the State.

 

[willair]

There is no one to call to check on an estate before someone dies. .

Just had another look at frankys post ,I thought the person in question has already passed away,so it would be a total different ball game,and you are right..

 

[GreyGhost]

Everyone is being presumptuous here..
OP said they want to jump onto the assets before someone else cashes in..
Giving OP benefit of the doubt they may be seeking to protect some other family members interests if there is issues with the executor of the will..

Just saying....