Growing up poor
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Speaking of disinterested parents (why have kids at all if that's your attitude, I say); one of my son's mate's Mother was bleating to us (and she's a Mrs.Thong in trakkies and moccies type I'll add) about how her 7 year old daughter was struggling with her spelling at school.
So, the school have sent her a note, or a phone call (can't remember now) asking her to spend more time helping the child with spelling and reading at home....
Her sooky comment to us was "It's the bloody school's job to teach her to read and spell; not mine".
This doesn't surprise me as I've heard it before when I worked in not so desirable areas in Sydney's West. Very sad.
I also used to work with a child abuse service. I mainly worked with neglected kids. One 5 year old used to be left at home minding a 3 month old sibling ALL night while mum went to work. She knew what to do with that baby but had no knowledge of basic hygiene and had never seen a book. Why these kids weren't removed was beyond me. Too difficult so I had to leave. I just wanted to take them all home.
There's being poor and there's neglect. They are not mutually inclusive.
I grew up poor. It taught me respect for money, although unfortunately I thought saving and buying and paying off a PPOR was the aim. It did give me a good start though. Just wish I realised earlier that that's not enough to retire on. But mum lives nicely on the pension in her paid off PPOR.
I noticed you've copped flak for this one, but I agree.
There are so many duds out there who are a blight on society and the whole economy, and they pump out loads of more of the same.
Good on ya for saying it, dude.
Brutal, but I somewhat agree. I don't want kids to start off with the odds stacked against them.
Barry O'Farrell recently apologised for the forcible removal of children. I think you should read some of these children and their parents stories before you pass judgement. Children taken away because someone decided they would be better off.
Being poor does not limit your ability to love your children.
I do however agree that people should be responsible for their own actions - if you have a child, you should be able to support that child.
Perhaps you should try telling the federal government that..... they hand out CASH to people, just for procreating. CASH!!!
We wonder why society often appears to be on the decline, apathetic and often irresponsible. Please tell me how the "baby bonus" is responsible..... it just perpetuates the problem!
We are our own worst enemies and this sense of bl**dy entitlement culture needs to be broken with a sledge hammer.
Maybe you can work out the test parameters for this then seeing as you strongly agree ?
Lets have the test on here, you know, like a trial.
There are a decent number of qualifying criteria, and we all know what they are.
But seeing as you asked, I'll give ya three to start off. This is based on someone who hasn't already had a child, who would like to have one.
1. Under 18
2. On welfare
3. Father not known
Some children (read many) very much enjoy playing adult sports, but the trophies that accompany that sporting activity usually put a bit of a dampener on their ability to continue playing the sport.
The adults who are supposed to be supervising the children, aren't supervising them and instead are trying to be their friend...instead of their parent.
Watched a documentary on this subject the other day, where the 48 yo lady stated she just became a great-grandmother. She stated she had her child at 19, her daughter gave birth at 15 and her daughter gave birth at 14 to her newborn great grand child. Her daughter is a 29 yo grandmother.
Not a father to be seen anywhere....but someone is doing something to these children that's for sure !!!!!
Agreed - unfortunately you didn't suggest which sledgehammer. There are hundreds of thousands of folks who would resist you every step of the way with this though....
I'd be interested in what sledgehammers you'd recommend ??
The adults who are supposed to be supervising the children, aren't supervising them and instead are trying to be their friend...instead of their parent.
Watched a documentary on this subject the other day, where the 48 yo lady stated she just became a great-grandmother. She stated she had her child at 19, her daughter gave birth at 15 and her daughter gave birth at 14 to her newborn great grand child. Her daughter is a 29 yo grandmother.
Not a father to be seen anywhere....but someone is doing something to these children that's for sure !!!!!
Agreed - unfortunately you didn't suggest which sledgehammer. There are hundreds of thousands of folks who would resist you every step of the way with this though....
I'd be interested in what sledgehammers you'd recommend ??
These criteria could halve the birth rate in Australia - we may have to start pumping out centrelink payments to single mums in Sudan.
And what kind of traits come out of kids raised in an environment of generational poverty, fear, abuse, alcoholism, unemployment, teen pregnancy and violence, no matter the location?
They say you are a product of your environment, and kids unfortunately have no say in their environment
Here's a US story also Marcell's story: Growing up in poverty in the United States of America
And an interesting quote on poverty and diet that's been discussed before
They say you are a product of your environment, and kids unfortunately have no say in their environment
Here's a US story also Marcell's story: Growing up in poverty in the United States of America
And an interesting quote on poverty and diet that's been discussed before
The kids in fact will NOT have a chance because you're denying them a start. I agree there should be some sort of training but to say only people with money and high IQ's can have children. Are you a Hitler fan?
Having a low IQ does not automatically make you a bad parent. I worked in a loiw socio economic area and worked with many low IQ parents. Yes the kids were obviously at a disadvantage but not everyone can go to Uni. There are mjany jobs that people with low intelligence and schooling can do.
One parent who had a VERY low IQ was in fact the best mother I had met. She cooked healthy food for her children, they were always impecably clean and well mannered. Another parent didn't have much of an idea as she had not been well parented. But with a little guidance she was a great mother.
Wrong. This is a mindset that goes along with low-socio, or, non-supported individuals.
It takes balls to write that,all the people i know like myself started in the gutter with the drain on one side and the footpath on the other,inbetween you have everybody trying to keep you in there,i call it the animal within,..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm7aCPa-_ew
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It's not about a high IQ or money.
It's about your whole approach to life.
Both my parents were poor, but had good intelligence, good values and a terrific work ethic. They were a credit to themselves and the human race.
And I've seen rich folk who are as dumb as dog-shoit and who are oxygen thieves; all they have done is make a lot of money and do nothing to benefit anyone else...people like Paris Hilton springs to mind...and what's worse; she has made no money of her own, etc.
It's about what your values are; if you think it's ok to sponge off the rest of society, to have kids because of a cash hand-out, to be a criminal, have no respect for yourself or others, then no; you don't get to add more of the same to our numbers, because you haven't bothered to make yourself into a decent human being, so how can you possibly have any hope of imparting the right life path onto any of your own kids...
I understand what you are saying...but who are you to say they cant have children?
What if we were to make the criteria:
1. No one over 40 (potential cost to the health system)
2. No one who works over 38hrs a week (why have a kid if you aren't there)
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The spelling of more than a few people on this forum can be best described as atrocious.
I support you 100% on this one, Nemo.
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