He's gone too Ruddy far this time

[wobbycarly]

This is true.

I guess as time goes on and I get older, politics and what it means to me and my family will become more important. Not having a family of my own the last 30 years means I have not had much social responsibility. Now I have a partner, baby and mortgage, I may take more notice.

Cheers

Mick

Yep. This has certainly been the case for me.

 

[willair]

They are paid by private corporations, not the taxpayer.
Besides, Fairfax has its fair share of lefties.

If you want bile and ill informed political bias, try JJJ.
In fact, for 3 decades they openly encouraged and trivialized the smoking of marijuana. It amounted to an advertising campaign for hooch.
That's what I see as progressive.

Interesting that they've gone numb on that recently....It's amazing no one has tried to sue them for misinforming several generations, and contributing to thousands of cases of mental illness.

I don't know Winston,that may well be way into the Poltical inner circle tell everyone that you intend too make the green smoke legal,then "Tax"
the underground non tax paying people that grow sell and make fortunes out of it without paying one cent of tax,Big Arnie has gone down that road,you only have to sit in Nimbin near the the ATM machines and see how much money go out in 15 minutes,some people tell me it's bigger that BHP,Australia wide one ton a week goes into Syndey alone they will never stop it,so they may as well tax it..imho..willair..
http://www.tenterfieldstar.com.au/news/local/news/general/half-billion-drug-haul/806373.aspx

 

[aussierogue]

Is it wrong of me to have no interest what so ever in politics?

I have not taken notice to anything any politician has said in the last 10 years. Would I be better or worse off if I did?


Oh, I vote labour by the way. Just out of habit because my parents have done so all their lives. Bad habits die hard I guess

Cheers

Mick

Honest answer and quite reasonable too!

 

[aussierogue]

Come on AR, admit malcontent zealot socialists and caves (citizens against virtually everything) spread the most hatred, derision, and scorn, in the least informed manner.

Name one comedian, a mainstay of the ABC, who is a conservative.
Who is derided most by QandA audiences, guests, and Tony Jones?
Which way do ABC and SBS staff vote, overwhelmingly?

The left are so ingrained in hating evil capitalists they aren't aware of it.

If you don't want to define capitalism AR, define progressive. What do progressives want us to progress towards???

Winston - just because they act that way does that mean you need to match them with the same crap?

And yes most artists, comedians, philosophers, actors, foodies etc are left of centre.

What do you do with your weekends? A life without music, movies, comedy shows, art on your walls etc can be a broing place. In my life they are the things that bring meaning. If you hate all the people that do this stuff then what do you actually enjoy.

Do you sit in a corner and count money?

If you do actually find enjoyment from these things then maybe, just maybe, some of these people have something intelligent to say.

 

[WinstonWolfe]

Albrechtson is on the board of the ABC, her directors fees paid for by the taxpayer. A nice appointment from her 'favourite' Prime Minister.

The ABC gets one free market advocate on its board, and the left howls in protest..... She didn't get her 5 year term renewed by Rudd's hand selected 'independent panel'. Ramona Koval, who is more left than Philip Adams, actively petitioned against Albrechtsen's appointment, on the basis she was a critic of the ABC.....well dur Ramona....the ABC were under investigation for political bias....and protesting the appt of a free market advocate only confirms it, you silly silly little socialist.

Winston - just because they act that way does that mean you need to match them with the same crap?

Do you mean crap like:
"Blue card you are ranting like a one of those right wing tv show hosts."

To TC: "You always have a slightly bitter right wing tone to your emails. Why do all the conservatives sound like schoolyard bullies?"

To me: "Do you sit in a corner and count money?"

And yes most artists, comedians, philosophers, actors, foodies etc are left of centre.

May be the ones you're famliar with AR.

Look AR, everyone knows from Year 6, that drama is for kids who can't add up or do science. So why take any notice of them when it comes to running the country or lifting oneself up by the bootstraps?


What do you do with your weekends? A life without music, movies, comedy shows, art on your walls etc can be a broing place. In my life they are the things that bring meaning. If you hate all the people that do this stuff then what do you actually enjoy.

Mate, just because Film Australia is ruled by left wing troglodytes, doesn't mean all entertainment is left wing. In fact, the most popular films are the other way. The reason Australian films have performed poorly overall on the world stage is because of the left domination of Film Australia. Disagree with me all you like, but I am talking from my experience and that of my brother, who left a senior managerial position in disgust of the blind bias and commercial naivety of the FA board.

Do you sit in a corner and count money?

If you do actually find enjoyment from these things then maybe, just maybe, some of these people have something intelligent to say.

My preference is for biography of people who achieve good things in life AR. I see enough of the downside of life in my job, to not need some socialist's rant via educational entertainment. I can only surmise that the downside of life is something many socialists prefer to write about, rather than actively fix.

 

[The Fence]

Because I am questioning you conservatives you think i like to fight. Yes i love a fight but its because you guys are off the planet. And when you have nothing left to say you all get personal and spill out more hateful rhetoric.

Crazy stuff.

Tell me that's not a personal attack....? Tell me that you are not spilling out your hateful rhetoric as well....? Crazy stuff indeed...

You still can't answer my query about your $400 or 400% remark earlier....???
I'd say you stuffed up with your quick "mouth" and mistaken me for someone else to attack......like I said before...no good arguing with an egotistical serial pest.:

 

[Sunfish]

......like I said before...no good arguing with an egotistical serial pest.:

Don't know why you have persevered this long. I pulled out ages ago.

Can't remember my exact words but it was something like: You have a closed mind and an argumentative attitude. I had visions of "wrestling pigs": You both get dirty but they enjoy it!

 

[The Fence]

Don't know why you have persevered this long. I pulled out ages ago.

Can't remember my exact words but it was something like: You have a closed mind and an argumentative attitude. I had visions of "wrestling pigs": You both get dirty but they enjoy it!

LOL...but now you've joined back in Sunfish...! LOL

No...I'm with you...I'm out...but just want to know what the smart alec reference to 400 something or whatever it was...as it was delivered in a smart alec way and this member thinks he's not a smart alec....go figure...
It has yet to be answered and if this member wishes to have some integrity then it needs to be addressed as I have no idea about anything related to 400% or as corrected $400...??????????????

 

[WinstonWolfe]

I'm bailing too Thorpey, until the next Ruddup.....that should give me about a week away....

 

[aussierogue]

the bullys have to leave when they lose. See ya's

 

[BayView]

Look AR, everyone knows from Year 6, that drama is for kids who can't add up or do science. So why take any notice of them when it comes to running the country or lifting oneself up by the bootstraps?

WW, I normally agree with you as I am a rightie as well.

But on this point I have to disagree.

I know a couple of very intelligent people who are also very creative, and naturally lean towards such things as drama, writing etc.

They can do science and math very well, but choose not to.

Their issues of importance are different from ours, and of course; they are not so good at being interested in making lots of money, or running a serious company that needs to be profitable (i.e the Gubbmint).

 

[aussierogue]

I find it interesting that some can throw hand grenades but cant take a little bit of goading in return.

 

[our obsession]

If all the righties left town, the tree hugging fraternity would run out of goods and services before they could put their bongs down.

OO, if you have an issue with Andrew Bolt et al, remit 70% of your gross income to the ATO, don a Gandhi dhoti, and spend 10 hours a week doing community service.

And leave the production of marketable goods and services to those who understand the world enough to take the risks to do so.

Your meanderings attempt at/of ?? really doesn't justify comment, however I might just indulge for the fun of it...

1. Poor Ole' Bolty, issues against "insert-latest-extreme-thing", too many to mention...pinup boy for the right tho'...chip on the shoulder and knickers strangling things bad....OMG!

2. Well, Winnie, you'll never know what exactly it is I do -with my finances, or my time. Perhaps not spent quite so much here in cyberspace as your good self.

In the end, you always drag it back to rantings, almost the frothing/foaming at mouth at lefties under the bed, in the closet and hiding in bushes...resulting in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytWGiOuzpe4&feature=related

 

[dan c]

The ABC gets one free market advocate on its board (Albrechtson), and the left howls in protest..... She didn't get her 5 year term renewed by Rudd's hand selected 'independent panel'. Ramona Koval, who is more left than Philip Adams, actively petitioned against Albrechtsen's appointment, on the basis she was a critic of the ABC.....well dur Ramona....the ABC were under investigation for political bias....and protesting the appt of a free market advocate only confirms it, you silly silly little socialist.

Just so you know, I'm pretty close to the centre politically. I just voted Liberal in a state election and have voted Labor in the last election. So I'm not a socialist, and I don't think anyone hanging out on a property investment forum is a real socialist either.

To call Janet Albrechtson a 'free market advocate', is underplaying her ultra conservative views, just a bit, don't you think? Personally, I think the 'protest' was not because of her 'free market views', but because the appointment was a blatantly political one.

Can you not see that point, or are you just ignoring it?

 

[Aaron Sice]

i thnk y'all need to lighten up a little.

 

[Sunfish]

Playing seagulls are we?

 

[VYBerlinaV8]

Reading through this has made me remeber how glad I am we can have this sort of discussion.

 

[WinstonWolfe]

i thnk y'all need to lighten up a little.

Not until you give Kevin 70% of your income.....

Mr Rudd knows just the right thing to spend it on.

another asylum seeker....cost $82,000 pa.

total cost for FY2010's 4200 intake so far.... $344,000,000

Man, think of the plasmas that could have paid for, or food for poor starving little African babies.

 

[WinstonWolfe]

Just so you know, I'm pretty close to the centre politically. I just voted Liberal in a state election and have voted Labor in the last election. So I'm not a socialist, and I don't think anyone hanging out on a property investment forum is a real socialist either.

Oh ok....because Dan says so, Somersoft only has pretend socialists....the type that drink chardonnay and lattes, drive Volvos, and try to minimize their tax....then pressure everyone else to accept higher tax rates.


To call Janet Albrechtson a 'free market advocate', is underplaying her ultra conservative views, just a bit, don't you think?

Janet might come across ultra conservative to some. To the rest of us she stands up for the sociopolitical values that gives a free market the greatest chance of success, so as to provide the socialists amongst us with bread, milk, water, shelter, and transport and utlities (the stuff Rudd is selling off to the Canadians), at the most efficient cost. In fact, Janet shares a lot with Gandhi's sociopolitical views.

Personally, I think the 'protest' was not because of her 'free market views', but because the appointment was a blatantly political one.

You mean it was a political appointment the ABC's entrenched left weren't happy with. You are not familiar with Ramona Koval's political views are you Dan. Nor David Marr's, who was her next most vocal critic. And nothing political about their presence at the ABC is there Dan.

Can you not see that point, or are you just ignoring it?

You realize Dan, being a centrist doesn't mean centred between centre left and Marxism mate.

 

[dan c]

To call Janet Albrechtson a 'free market advocate', is underplaying her ultra conservative views, just a bit, don't you think?

Janet might come across ultra conservative to some. To the rest of us she stands up for the sociopolitical values that gives a free market the greatest chance of success, so as to provide the socialists amongst us with bread, milk, water, shelter, and transport and utlities (the stuff Rudd is selling off to the Canadians), at the most efficient cost. In fact, Janet shares a lot with Gandhi's sociopolitical views.

Janet is the new Gandhi. LOL!! Thanks Winnie, that gave me a good ol' belly laugh.

You mean it was a political appointment the ABC's entrenched left weren't happy with. You are not familiar with Ramona Koval's political views are you Dan. Nor David Marr's, who was her next most vocal critic. And nothing political about their presence at the ABC is there Dan.
.

Sure the ABC has lefties, that's not in dispute. What I'm saying is that Janet's appointment to the board was a blatantly political appointment, made by a Prime Minister she had written love letters to for years. It wasn't just the hard core lefties complaining. It was everyone left of Janet.

That is, about 99.5% of the population.

And lay off the socialist talk. You seem like one of these hard core conservatives that think anyone to the left of them is a cross between Karl Marx and Mikhail Gorbachev.