How does it work?

Already proposed that, as they wanted a security door too.
Then just came back with this tribunal threat recently.

Can we be forced to go to tribunal.
Hopefully it won't get that far.
Ace in the Hole - Keep a paper trail and don't be afraid to attend tribunal. Send the tenants a letter (dated and keep a copy or send through your agent) advising of other insurance agencies which will provide them with contents insurance without the dead lock. also state in this letter that if they do not wish to go with an alternate insurance company that you are happy for them to install the deadlock at their own expense as long as you or your PM are provided a copy of the key. I would also have your PM check their application form. A lot of agencies have an area on the application form where the tenant signs that they have viewed the property and are applying for it in it's current condition. Some agencies also have an area where the tenant can list any items of concern to be rectified prior to them signing the lease agreement. If they have signed that they accept the property in it's current condition and you take this to tribunal along with copies of your corresspondence you should be ok.
 
You'd better think of a good story for explaining to the tenant how you got their address. Tell them this story and you've admitted all the elements of the crime of fraud, under Canadian Criminal Code 380(1), maximum penalty 2 years in prison (provided the value is < $5K). :eek:

The fact that you were seeking to "right a wrong" (ie pursue a debt) doesn't work as a defence.

I always knew Canada was a socialist country
 
I always knew Canada was a socialist country

The ex-tenant signed for the registered letter. She has now been officially served !!! :)
Now we wait and see if she shows up for court..otherwise they will hear the case without her being there.

All I did was called her mobile phone number, and she gave me her mailing address
 
The ex-tenant signed for the registered letter. She has now been officially served !!! :)
Now we wait and see if she shows up for court..otherwise they will hear the case without her being there.

All I did was called her mobile phone number, and she gave me her mailing address
That is brilliant! You must let us know how it goes!
 
The ex-tenant signed for the registered letter. She has now been officially served !!! :)
Now we wait and see if she shows up for court..otherwise they will hear the case without her being there.

All I did was called her mobile phone number, and she gave me her mailing address

I know you are not worrid abou it, but you did suggets you did not nonly ring her mobile and ask her adress form the belwo, which is why Perp suggested what she did (had she gien you the landlord her address simply cause you asked her, I doubt Perp woud have responded)..

I was able to get her phone number but didn't know where she lived. I pretended she had won second prise in a local contest, and needed her address where to send the registered mail with her $5k cheque in it.
She happily told me where she lives.
 
Slightly off topic, but if a tenant takes you to the tribunal and loses, can the LL claim expenses incurred from the tenant?

Cheers
 
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I know you are not worrid abou it, but you did suggets you did not nonly ring her mobile and ask her adress form the belwo, which is why Perp suggested what she did (had she gien you the landlord her address simply cause you asked her, I doubt Perp woud have responded)..

I was able to get her phone number but didn't know where she lived. I pretended she had won second prise in a local contest, and needed her address where to send the registered mail with her $5k cheque in it.
She happily told me where she lives.

Still nothing illegal in getting a tenant to provide me with an address.
She can claim I said anything:D...what proof does she have.
All she has is an envelope with a few daffodils printed on it. Nothing else..except a return address of a PO Box.
 
Slightly off topic, but if a tenant takes you to the tribunal and loses, can the LL claim expenses incurred from the tenant?

Cheers
You would have to check for your state locko24, In VIC it is very unlikely that the landlord would be awarded tribunal costs but this does vary state to state.
 
Back to topic, I always find new tenants ask for stuff in the first couple of months of starting the tenancy. I will grant reasonable requests, as Im interested in keeping them there, and I understand that a 30 minute open for inspection, and quick walk through with the agent doesnt always pick up where things need to be improved.

that said, I dont grant every request, sometimes I just need to say no, or the requests will just keep coming, other times Ive suggested an increase in the rent/renegotiation of the lease in exchange for some improvements. that is usually the end of the matter.
 
Back to topic, I always find new tenants ask for stuff in the first couple of months of starting the tenancy. I will grant reasonable requests, as Im interested in keeping them there, and I understand that a 30 minute open for inspection, and quick walk through with the agent doesnt always pick up where things need to be improved.

that said, I dont grant every request, sometimes I just need to say no, or the requests will just keep coming, other times Ive suggested an increase in the rent/renegotiation of the lease in exchange for some improvements. that is usually the end of the matter.

Our supers started the lease for one of our tenants in Dec. The tenants have never paid on time, but always caught up within the regulated time period (30 days).We instructed our supers to do nothing.When we arrived back this month, she had just went over the 30 days. I called and said I was coming to pick up the rent. She said she didn't have it all but would give me about 40%. She greeted me at the door and I handed her eviction notice with a smile.She looked at and gasped. I told her we don;'t want to evict her, but that is the only choice left to us by the RTA.If she catches up in the 15 days, she can stay. She really only had 30% of her rent, but promised to pay with 2 weeks. We sat down, and she asked about flyscreens on her windows being replaced. I said no, as tenants always ruin them, but she was welcome to put in replacement fly screen if she wants.
Went back 3 days ago and she had full rental payment, and promises to pay on the first of June. We shall see. Her lease expires June 30.
 
Back to topic, I always find new tenants ask for stuff in the first couple of months of starting the tenancy. I will grant reasonable requests, as Im interested in keeping them there, and I understand that a 30 minute open for inspection, and quick walk through with the agent doesnt always pick up where things need to be improved.

that said, I dont grant every request, sometimes I just need to say no, or the requests will just keep coming, other times Ive suggested an increase in the rent/renegotiation of the lease in exchange for some improvements. that is usually the end of the matter.
It's true that the first few months have more requests than any other time of the tenancy (unless we are including after a really big rent increase....) I think a lot of the time that is because your previous tenants are used to living with the little odd bits and pieces in a house. e.g - when you open a certain door you have to lift slightly as it is dropping. They won't have reported it as they are used to it, your new tenants? They won't know what to do and so will report it as broken!!
 
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