i don't have to justify it to sleep at night.
the difference is quite easy to see. when you steal all of the above - it's not there anymore. when you copy music - it's still there
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i don't have to justify it to sleep at night.
the difference is quite easy to see. when you steal all of the above - it's not there anymore. when you copy music - it's still there
That's pretty simple.
I'm sure you think you are special, but let's just say for arguments sake that Strannik isn't special and that everyone took their music/movies for free. Then what? People would stop making them and we'd have a world with less of it. I don't like the idea of that.
I pressume that also means that you will happily walk into a concert, a movie, or any other production (if you can get away with it) without paying, because the show is still there despite Strannik hasn't paid for it.
I know some musicians, and they work their @rse off, pay loads of money out on instruments, studio time, travel etc. and spend hours and hours writing their music and recording it. I wonder how they feel about Strannik and others feeling they have the right to steal what they have created for nothing.
How about a squatter in your house, they aren't stealing your actual house. They just want to use it for free, because they don't want to be a penguin and can put their money to better use. And afterall, the landlord is probably loaded so why should they pay him any money.
It's one thing to take it and know you are doing the wrong thing, but to justify it and say there's nothing wrong with it and you are entitled to other poeople's work for free....
I'm not going to say what's right and wrong, it's a personal choice.
The way i look at is if i hadn't downloaded a series of a show i wouldn't have gone out and bought it.
eg, downloaded the series Gavin and Stacey from the uk and enjoyed it so much i went out and bought the series on dvd, so i see it as win/win situation for everyone. I found something i enjoyed and the company got my money for the dvd's i bought
Have done for about 12 different series. I will buy dvd's if i like the shows because i find them better quality.
That's my thoughts anyway
The way i look at is if i hadn't downloaded a series of a show i wouldn't have gone out and bought it.
eg, downloaded the series Gavin and Stacey from the uk and enjoyed it so much i went out and bought the series on dvd, so i see it as win/win situation for everyone. I found something i enjoyed and the company got my money for the dvd's i bought
Have done for about 12 different series. I will buy dvd's if i like the shows because i find them better quality.
That's my thoughts anyway
Thats not true. Musicians realised years ago that their income from recorded music is in a serious down wood trend. (And that has nothing to do with pirating music, but a lot to do with CD's being priced where they should be -$10 - rather than the rip off $30+ of previous years) Anyway, they have changed their business model and now rely more on touring and their income has grown markedly. I'm not talking all musicians, just the good ones.
That's pretty simple.
I'm sure you think you are special, but let's just say for arguments sake that Strannik isn't special and that everyone took their music/movies for free. Then what? People would stop making them and we'd have a world with less of it. I don't like the idea of that.
I pressume that also means that you will happily walk into a concert, a movie, or any other production (if you can get away with it) without paying, because the show is still there despite Strannik hasn't paid for it.
I know some musicians, and they work their @rse off, pay loads of money out on instruments, studio time, travel etc. and spend hours and hours writing their music and recording it. I wonder how they feel about Strannik and others feeling they have the right to steal what they have created for nothing.
How about a squatter in your house, they aren't stealing your actual house. They just want to use it for free, because they don't want to be a penguin and can put their money to better use. And afterall, the landlord is probably loaded so why should they pay him any money.
It's one thing to take it and know you are doing the wrong thing, but to justify it and say there's nothing wrong with it and you are entitled to other poeople's work for free....
Torrenting music for your private use is one thing but using it for commercial gain is quite another, and your employer is just dumping a huge risk and responsibility onto you. You need to tell them politely but firmly that is not acceptable.
Have you tried instead:
1) Raising awareness. Put up signs saying that the rink needs donations to provide the latest top 40 family-friendly music.
2) Organising fund-raising events.
3) Organising sponsorship by local businesses, in exchange for advertising signs or a promo lead-in on the loudspeaker, eg "this music provided by Bob's Buggies, for all your buggying needs"
4) Contacting some of your local amateur bands or DJs. Some would jump at a chance to do a live gig with an audience for free. They'd bring their own music or backing tracks, all you'd have to do is pre-approve the songs.
5) Exploring the worlds of "public domain" and "creative commons" music, all free and legal to download and use. Just one site as an example: http://www.jamendo.com/en/ - under "Music" select "Tags" to access all the different genres.
Have you tried instead:
1) Raising awareness. Put up signs saying that the rink needs donations to provide the latest top 40 family-friendly music.
2) Organising fund-raising events.
3) Organising sponsorship by local businesses, in exchange for advertising signs or a promo lead-in on the loudspeaker, eg "this music provided by Bob's Buggies, for all your buggying needs"
4) Contacting some of your local amateur bands or DJs. Some would jump at a chance to do a live gig with an audience for free. They'd bring their own music or backing tracks, all you'd have to do is pre-approve the songs.
5) Exploring the worlds of "public domain" and "creative commons" music, all free and legal to download and use. Just one site as an example: http://www.jamendo.com/en/ - under "Music" select "Tags" to access all the different genres.
I fear I need to clear a few things up here.
Firstly, my employer is not some large corporation and the skating rink is not really used for commercial gain. It is leased by a youth centre and is used for their after school drop in centre. It is not open to the public with the exception of one session per week.
This they do with reluctance but are encouraged, by the Council, to open for the community at large. I have no contact at all with any of the youth that come to the drop in centre, the only contact I have with anybody from the area are the small number of patrons that turn up on a Friday night.
There is only a small entrance charge, which barely covers the wages of myself and another staff member, and the place cannot operate if the weather is bad, since it is out doors. The patronage is low because not a lot of people are aware of the existance of it, and the Community Centre does not/will not advertise.
Being an employee, I presume that they have the correct insurances/licenses in place, the same as an employee of any other Business would. This is not my concern at all.
Like I said in the original post, I am happy to pay a subscription out of my own pocket for something, but draw the line at the Itunes prices as I would use my whole wage to do so.
Again, this I mentioned in the original post. We do get stuff from the patrons, but I really want more control over the content/quality. The stuff that we receive is obviously pirated. It is usually just a blank CD and nothing to identify what the tracks are. There is usually some that I would not play due to content.
I fear this would definately be frowned upon by the Community Centre and would entail me having to do many hours work in order to obtain donations.
I've already tried this, and was told in no uncertain terms that this would not be considered.
Now this is something that might be useful. Thankyou, I will have a look at this.
Thankyou also to the few people that have sent me PMs on possible solutions.
somehow we had the world with plenty of music before it became commercialized, and it was of much better quality. now most of the music that's sold now doesn't even need an artist, all you need is someone with half decent voice, big boobs and blond hair - and you got yourself a new star.That's pretty simple.
I'm sure you think you are special, but let's just say for arguments sake that Strannik isn't special and that everyone took their music/movies for free. Then what? People would stop making them and we'd have a world with less of it. I don't like the idea of that.
previously musicians would travel the world and earn their living that way.
which leads us to the next one:
i'm quite happy to pay for a concert ticket, because musicians are actually putting out few hours of hard work and i get to hear a unique performance, as opposed to selling one artificially created record over and over again. and that's where they are actually making their money.
if you cared to actually investigate how much money musicians get from 1 cd you would find out that it's not a lot.
anyway this discussion is pointless, if you need more arguments you can google them easily
try http://www.bandit.fm
quite often ozbargain.com.au free $10 - $20 coupons come up.
Or there could be a valid coupon available if you google it.
quite often ozbargain.com.au free $10 - $20 coupons come up.
Or there could be a valid coupon available if you google it.
Thankyou. They have a promo at the moment with some songs @50c, so that isn't too bad, however their normal price is more than itunes. Couldn't find any coupons, but if I can get coupons, that would be good.
