Metrosexuals

[nhg]

{edit - this thread split from this one: Australian marry a Thai lady - asset protection?}

No, I am not suggesting women prefer a man's man--that is what you have inferred. There is a whole spectrum of 'manliness'--from the effeminate to the Neanderthal--and the notion of manliness is constantly changing. If by 'metrosexual men' you are referring to men who pluck their eyebrows, wax and use skincare, that is more because of the rising objectification of men in the media. If, by 'metrosexual', you mean that more men than ever now take part in the raising of their children, see their marriage as an equal partnership and are more emotionally available, more power to them--that is a good thing and a signal that we are evolving as human beings.

I have never heard anyone refer to men in equal partnerships as being metrosexual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrosexual

Metrosexual is a neologism, derived from metropolitan and heterosexual, coined in 1994 describing a man (especially one living in an urban, post-industrial, capitalist culture) who is especially meticulous about his grooming and appearance, typically spending a significant amount of time and money on shopping as part of this.[1] The term is popularly thought to describe heterosexual men who adopt fashions and lifestyles stereotypically associated with homosexuals, although, by definition given by the originator (see below), a metrosexual "might be officially gay, straight or bisexual".

 

[Mr. Fabulous]

Are you suggesting females prefer a man's man?

Women have always preferred manly men that are dominant and take the lead. Just that these days it's politically incorrect to admit it. You don't believe me? I got four words for you: Fifty Shades of Grey.

you mean that more men than ever now take part in the raising of their children, see their marriage as an equal partnership and are more emotionally available, more power to them--that is a good thing and a signal that we are evolving as human beings.

Another fallacy debunked.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/magazine/does-a-more-equal-marriage-mean-less-sex.html

 

[Mr. Fabulous]

I have never heard anyone refer to men in equal partnerships as being metrosexual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrosexual

Metrosexual is a neologism, derived from metropolitan and heterosexual, coined in 1994 describing a man (especially one living in an urban, post-industrial, capitalist culture) who is especially meticulous about his grooming and appearance, typically spending a significant amount of time and money on shopping as part of this.[1] The term is popularly thought to describe heterosexual men who adopt fashions and lifestyles stereotypically associated with homosexuals, although, by definition given by the originator (see below), a metrosexual "might be officially gay, straight or bisexual".

nhg, I don't know about you, but I strenously object to the reference of metrosexuals as 'men'. Ranulph Fiennes, Steve McQueen, Jack Donovan... these are Men. Metrosexuals belong in Oprah's Book Club at the coffee house gossiping about the latest nonsense Kim Kardashian has been up to with the other women.

 

[nhg]

nhg, I don't know about you, but I strenously object to the reference of metrosexuals as 'men'. Ranulph Fiennes, Steve McQueen, Jack Donovan... these are Men. Metrosexuals belong in Oprah's Book Club at the coffee house gossiping about the latest nonsense Kim Kardashian has been up to with the other women.

Haha,

Well I do dress quite dapper when the situation calls for it.

Yet considering I am currently sitting in an office wearing a torn t-shirt, dirty sneakers and crumpled pants, in an office where everyone wears suits. I am not sure I personally fit any definition of the term metrosexual.

To each their own, I personally believe it's a dying fad, if not already replaced by hipster fashion. Very few women I know seriously consider a metrosexual male a life long partner.

The most cringe worthy thing I saw when getting read for a wedding in Melbourne recently were the guys trying to emulate Don Draper and saying things like "a good suit makes you a man". I quickly interjected "being a man makes you a man, even if you're wearing a plastic bag", the women in the room had a good laugh at that one, the guys didn't like me much after that.

As my sister put it after dating a metrosexual male "I can't stand being with someone who spends more time in front of the mirror than I do".

Then again you have the other extreme of Dan Bilzerian which IMO is a recipe for creating a generation of douchebags.

 

[wylie]

Women have always preferred manly men that are dominant and take the lead. Just that these days it's politically incorrect to admit it. You don't believe me? I got four words for you: Fifty Shades of Grey.



Another fallacy debunked.

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You are joking (I hope).

 

[Mr. Fabulous]

Well I do dress quite dapper when the situation calls for it.

Yet considering I am currently sitting in an office wearing a torn t-shirt, dirty sneakers and crumpled pants, in an office where everyone wears suits. I am not sure I personally fit any definition of the term metrosexual.

Oh, don't get me wrong, bro. I'm all about dressing well. Got a couple suits that I am *this close* to being able to fit back into after I slacked for a while and got a bit fat :/. Can't wait to rock those bad boys out on the town. As the saying goes 'A man in a good suit is to a woman what a woman in lingerie is to a man'.

Metrosexuals are just feminised 'males' (I use the word males very loosely).

The most cringe worthy thing I saw when getting read for a wedding in Melbourne recently were the guys trying to emulate Don Draper and saying things like "a good suit makes you a man". I quickly interjected "being a man makes you a man, even if you're wearing a plastic bag", the women in the room had a good laugh at that one, the guys didn't like me much after that.

Mate, if I had been there, I totally would have high-fived you. Let me know next time you're in Melbourne, we'll hit the town.

 

[nhg]

You are joking (I hope).

I believe in equal partnerships more than most men (and women).

I get where he is coming from though, (most) women want to feel wanted, and also safe and secure. An indecisive male who can't lead or provide a level of authority doesn't project security or create much sexual tension.

 

[Mr. Fabulous]

Here's some fun facts for the blokes of Somersoft to think about:

- chick porn (aka romance novels) make more money each year than male porn
- chick porn isn't full of guys who profess equality and volunteer to do the dishes
- there is a reason why Fifty Shades of Grey was so enormously popular (keep in mind it was first published in 2011 and has sold over 100 million copies already)
- I once had a woman look me in the eye and tell me with a straight face that Fifty Shades... wasn't porn, lol

 

[tom32]

Funny anecdote and warning about metrosexuals / grooming: I went in holidays with a mate from high school something we said we would do well over a decade ago. He is not married and looks after himself. While I think he would object to being called metrosexual he is quite close to the above definiftion.

My wife had been onto me about trimming my eyebrows but I refused. On about the second week of our trip he told me that when I came out of my room if I had not trimmed my eyebrows he was not going anywhere with me. Anyway after objecting and telling him i wont trim them for my wife and im sure as fk not trimmin them for him I thought whatever and cut them back.

I have since discovered that since doing this if I leave my eyebrows for longer than about 6 months they go johnny Howard on me. It seems the more you trim things the faster they grow back!

Edit: maybe I should get a lady boy cut and see if it grows back bigger?

 

[boeman]

So many egos in here, this thread is hilarious.

 

[nhg]

Here's some fun facts for the blokes of Somersoft to think about:

- chick porn (aka romance novels) make more money each year than male porn
- chick porn isn't full of guys who profess equality and volunteer to do the dishes
- there is a reason why Fifty Shades of Grey was so enormously popular (keep in mind it was first published in 2011 and has sold over 100 million copies already)
- I once had a woman look me in the eye and tell me with a straight face that Fifty Shades... wasn't porn, lol

Just pointing out. The bondage in 50 Shades of Grey is not how it's suppose to be done. The guy in that book is actually manipulative and quite abusive.

I've had more than a handful of conversations with women about what their fantasies are. Believe me, they would never do much of that in real life. Usually fantasy is best left in the realms of imagination.

Haha, I heard this one girl told her boyfriend she had a kidnapping/sex fantasy, so he hired a van and wore a mask as a surprise. The cops who were nearby and saw him drag her into the van didn't think it was that hilarious.

 

[property_girl]

Mr Fabulous: sorry, but you don't know what women want.

 

[boeman]

Mr Fabulous: sorry, but you don't know what women want.

Shhh, you're ruining the entertainment factor of this thread.

 

[Mr. Fabulous]

My wife had been onto me about trimming my eyebrows but I refused.

When I go to the barber, they ask me if I want to trim my eyebrows. I'm not quite John Howard, but they are kinda bushy. I always say 'No' and think to myself 'Do I look like a woman to you?'

Kinda burns me that it is the barber asking me. If I went to a hair thalon, I could understand, but the barber? Geez. Sign of the times, mate. I even had a former FWB suggest I should tint my eyelashes, lol.

When I told my ex-girlfriend (who was a hairdresser and would cut my hair for nothing) about it she laughed and said 'Yeah sure, then you can go out afterwards and buy a nice dress and a pair of heels. Just make sure they match.'

 

[Mr. Fabulous]

Just pointing out. The bondage in 50 Shades of Grey is not how it's suppose to be done. The guy in that book is actually manipulative and quite abusive.

I've had more than a handful of conversations with women about what their fantasies are. Believe me, they would never do much of that in real life. Usually fantasy is best left in the realms of imagination.

Hi nhg, I'm quite aware that Fifty Shades is on the extreme end of the scale, but it speaks volumes just how popular the series is.

 

[property_girl]

Fifty Shades is badly written FANTASY. You do know the difference, don't you? I think that men who are scared of metrosexuals might be closet gays, lol.
And I trim my father's eyebrows all the time, and he is as manly as anyone!

 

[tom32]

Kinda burns me that it is the barber asking me. If I went to a hair thalon, I could understand, but the barber? Geez. Sign of the times, mate. I even had a former FWB suggest I should tint my eyelashes, lol.

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Yes I used to refuse but only got asked occasionally. Same way I refuse hair product as well. My latest trip she told me if I used hair gel it would mask my thinning hair. Before that I didn't know I was going bald! I hate trips to the barber more than the dentist. my dentist doesn't punish my ego as much.

 

[Mr. Fabulous]

I think that men who are scared of metrosexuals might be closet gays, lol.

Nice try. I've fooled around with guys in the past and several of my current mates are gay. One of the guys I drink with on the regs tried to shove his tongue down my throat when we first met.

Jack Donovan (http://jack-donovan.com/) is gay. I think it would take about 30 seconds of reading his website to figure out where he stands on metrosexuals.

 

[Mr. Fabulous]

Yes I used to refuse but only got asked occasionally. Same way I refuse hair product as well. My latest trip she told me if I used hair gel it would mask my thinning hair. Before that I didn't know I was going bald! I hate trips to the barber more than the dentist. my dentist doesn't punish my ego as much.

Hahaha, tom I think we are kindred spirits mate! I too am strongly opposed to gel or any other type of hair product. Although my hair is quite thick and lustrous. Not Fabio level, but it gets the job done.

 

[tom32]

I think that men who are scared of metrosexuals might be closet gays, lol.

I'm not scared of them but couldn't see myself becoming one.

I reckon if you go to the gym after work you are not working hard enough so I couldn't see myself becoming one. Besides I'm married, so why bother.