The issue is that planes are only within reach of (limited bandwidth) satellites, not the (relatively high bandwidth) GSM network.
Missing Malaysia airline.
- Thread starter topcropper
- Start date
Well according to what I have read the plane suddenly stopped transmitting it's signals. That's the mystery.
Then Malaysia military are reporting their military radar may have tracked the the plane turn around, head back to Malaysia at low altitude, crossing the East coast travelling over Malaysia and then crossing the West Coast where contact was lost in the Strait of Malacca near an island called Pulau Perak.
Local police have also reported that locals saw a low flying plane on that course.
Mysterious.
http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0
I'm thinking it's sounding like pilot suicide could be an option?
See ya's.
See ya's.
If I had to pick one of the theories going round I'd go with suicide, would explain many of the questions...
It's sounding like anything and everything could be an option!
Dunno if Malaysia is telling all there is to know either? Like as if there is some sort of cover up? Sounds like they knew days ago that the plane turned around, and all that time was wasted with the search going on in the wrong place?
See ya's.
The 777 has one of the best glide ratios at >20:1 which means it can glide 20 feet for every foot of drop. If the pilot turned around and maintained text book air speed of 210 knots at 35,000 feet the plane could be 100nm in another direction. In freefall it would take 2-4 minutes to hit the water which gives plenty of time to make a phone call, mayday or other transmission if anyone was conscious.
Here's another theory, very technical but if true the plane will be very hard to find. It also explains why the transmission was lost. If the plane hit the water nose first it probably would've gone down without any visible debris on the surface. Interesting read and plausible. If we're forced to accept that all have perished this would offer some comfort that none of those on board were conscious of their plight and didn't die in terror.
http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/?og=1
Summary: It's plausible that a fuselage section near the SATCOM antenna adapter failed, disabling satellite based - GPS, ACARS, and ADS-B/C - communications, and leading to a slow decompression that left all occupants unconscious. If such decompression left the aircraft intact, then the autopilot would have flown the planned route or otherwise maintained its heading/altitude until fuel exhaustion.
A slow decompression (e.g. from a golfball-sized hole) would have gradually impaired and confused the pilots before cabin altitude (pressure) warnings sounded.
Chain of events:
Likely fuselage failure near SATCOM antenna adapter, disabling some or all of GPS, ACARS, ADS-B, and ADS-C antennas and systems. Thus, only primary radars would detect the plane. Primary radar range is usually less than 100nm, and is generally ineffective at high altitudes.
If the decompression was slow enough, it's possible the pilots did not realize to put on oxygen masks until it was too late. (See Helios 522)
Also explains why another Pilot thirty minutes ahead heard "mumbling" from MH370 pilots. (VHF comms would be unaffected by SATCOM equipment failure.)
With incapacitated pilots, the 777 could continue to fly on Autopilot - programmed to maintain cruise altitude and follow the programmed route. Using the Inertial Reference System (gyroscope based), the plane could navigate without needing GPS.
Conclusion:
This was likely not an "explosive decompression" or "inflight disintegration." This was likely a slow decompression that gradually deprived all crew/passengers of oxygen, leaving the autopilot to continue along the route autonomously.
The aircraft may be at the floor of the East China Sea, Sea of Japan, or the Pacific Ocean thousands of miles northeast from the current search zone.
I think they've been open about the plane turning around since early on, I heard about it a few days ago but it seems to be getting a bit of publicity today.
Similar thing happened to a light aircraft heading from Perth Australia to Leonora Australia 13 years ago.
Plane Crashes in Australia, All Eight Aboard Dead
Plane Crashes in Australia, All Eight Aboard Dead
But it sounds like now the plane has flown hundreds of kilometres in the opposite direction, to the other side of Malaysia and beyond. So if that's the case could not have been on autopilot.
sadly whether the plane is found or not, the passengers are all dead. wonder how long it will take for any redress? money will not bring back the dead but compensation will be required.
suppose the airline has insurance but these things take years. notice their shares have dived too.
security needs to be tightened at airports too. passport issues in particular. the pantomime that goes on with dusting for explosives etc.
hopefully many things will be learnt from this. border security needs to be improved. would not travel with Malaysian air.
suppose the airline has insurance but these things take years. notice their shares have dived too.
security needs to be tightened at airports too. passport issues in particular. the pantomime that goes on with dusting for explosives etc.
hopefully many things will be learnt from this. border security needs to be improved. would not travel with Malaysian air.
My logic tells me that Malaysian Airlines will probably now be the most safety conscious of them all after this.
maybe simon. but there are other airlines that service those regions. we like Singapore airlines for quality and service but emirates have good timetables for Europe. main consideration will be safety and border security issues. Malaysia seems to be lax in that area based on current reports and events.
Could be some cheap tickets on offer, too.
If it turns out to be pilot suicide, or some other pilot related terrorism incident, there may well be a big reluctance for people to fly with airlines who employ pilots with Arabic or Arabic sounding names. I'd certainly be concerned.
See ya's.
i dont even know where to begin with this post. there is so much ignorance crammed in.
firstly malays are not arabic
secondly pilot suicide can have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism, in fact it has happened before
im just going to leave it here before my head explodes in utter confusion
They are actually rated one of the safest airlines in the world. Up there with the best.
Malaysians are not arabs to begin with, if it was pilot related which i first said it could be, it will not stop people flying with arab pilots...oh wait you board a plane the crew started talking about the flight and since he is arab you leave the plane.
It's like saying i'm not flying with a pilot that is an aussie drunk bogan because he can do anything mid flight. Some people on this forum reak from racism.
Cool story, but as far as evidence go no real evidence of anything so all doors are open ANYTHING could have happened. No solid evidence even for failure of plane.
Maybe you have solid evidence of an event that did take place and can share it with the world right now? You would help SAR right now with your solid evidence.
Similar threads
