My education revolution idea

But on the subject of money management and financial intelligence, I completely agree there should be units on this in high school. But finding teachers worthy of the name would likely be a problem. No point having your kids taught this subject by someone with a heap of credit card debt... doesn't mean we shouldn't try though! In the meantime, we just have to teach our own kids these skills...

They do cover some of this at school and many of those that go on to year 12 cover it in depth (financial markets, calculating interest, business, economics, accounting, etc. through subjects like Business Studies, Economics, Applied Mathamatics).

aussie, I wonder if every child that covers some of these subjects goes on to gain financial freedom. I think not.

It's not always as simple as knowing some maths.

Knowledge is part of, not all of the answer.

But in regard to degrees, it's what industry and people require in the way of expertise.

What's great about having a nurse dispense highly potent drugs, administer blood products, advise, etc. when they've covered 1/10 of a traditional course, take a break of 7 years, because they got into horticulture first, before deciding to become a nurse :eek:.
 
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Dude - the point is we do need maths geeks.....just not most people. Enought o be able to add, subtract, multiply and divide...anything more refer to calculator, iphone, nerd....(i like nerds)

That's what school does already and most don't go to uni to specialise - so what was the problem again? The current system does everything you refer to? There is obviously no need for a university to learn gardening...
 
For the most part, it's about putting food in your mouth and a roof over your head.

Everything else is just icing. ;)

damn right :)

all these multi skilled skills is up to each individual. there are ppl who might want to be pharmacist, doctors, lawyers and engineers.

As far as i know a table in a database has not really changed since its invention
and the chemistry code for water is still H20.
 
Kind of like a Bachelor of Arts in life.

But even more useless for getting a job!

Here I thought parents were meant to provide their children with 18 years of 'teaching' the things you mentioned?

Yeah, because there are no wealthy people in the arts, right?

I have an arts degree and have a job in the area that I studied. It's not as straightforward as getting say an accounting job but it's certainly possible with a bit of persistence. I know personally I would have a lot of trouble doing anything else
 
There are 2 kinds of knowledges/activities/educations, one to earn a living and the other to fulfil yourself as a person.

Although different they are not exclusive. Some people will find fulfilment in their jobs while others will seek it in a lesser job (less money/status) or outside their jobs altogether.

The wise is fulfilled by everything they do, the unwise is left unfulfilled no matter what they do, while the rest of us are somewhere in between, confused and torn apart.

The Renaissance man looks for fulfilment rather than a job. His interest takes him into so many different fields because he can find fulfilment in each of them. More than that, he can see how they are interlinked and serve the same purpose.

To reduce the issue to one of skills/qualifications/career is to miss the point, I’m afraid.
 
Yeah, because there are no wealthy people in the arts, right?

I have an arts degree and have a job in the area that I studied. It's not as straightforward as getting say an accounting job but it's certainly possible with a bit of persistence. I know personally I would have a lot of trouble doing anything else

My dig at Arts was actually tongue in cheek, I also have an Arts degree. ;)

In saying that though, the amount of people I know who went through the degree trying a bit of this and a bit of that, to not have any really defined knowledge and no real employable skills, who are still without a job other than casual retail, or back at uni doing another degree so they can get a job...

The variety of a BA can be its downfall in many cases.
 
There are 2 kinds of knowledges/activities/educations, one to earn a living and the other to fulfil yourself as a person.

Although different they are not exclusive. Some people will find fulfilment in their jobs while others will seek it in a lesser job (less money/status) or outside their jobs altogether.

The wise is fulfilled by everything they do, the unwise is left unfulfilled no matter what they do, while the rest of us are somewhere in between, confused and torn apart.

The Renaissance man looks for fulfilment rather than a job. His interest takes him into so many different fields because he can find fulfilment in each of them. More than that, he can see how they are interlinked and serve the same purpose.

To reduce the issue to one of skills/qualifications/career is to miss the point, I’m afraid.

I think you are getting hung up on the word 'renaissance man'....lets call it something else....

I am not the one missing the point
 
I wonder, Aussierogue, when was the last time you were inside a classroom for more than a parent-teacher interview (if that).

I can see where you are coming from, but I wonder if you realise that we do teach all those things in highschool these days. I can show you hundreds of high-school graduates in my local suburb who sat in on these classes and who will quite quickly pipe up that 'I never learnt that at school". Fact was they had their ears wired into a small machine in their pockets and their faces staring blankly at a utube site, rather than engaging in the curriculum. If it was pre-laptop era, they would have been drawing pictures in their workbooks (if they brought them to school) and planning their weekend wardrobe rather than engaging in the curriculum.

I can show you two classes of year 8 maths students who returned from the last break totally adament that "we have never done mean median and mode before" even though we did it for three weeks prior to the break. The year 10s will tell you they have never heard of the distributive law even though they spend three months supposedly practising it in year 8 and another three months in year 9.
 
I wonder, Aussierogue, when was the last time you were inside a classroom for more than a parent-teacher interview (if that).

I can see where you are coming from, but I wonder if you realise that we do teach all those things in highschool these days. I can show you hundreds of high-school graduates in my local suburb who sat in on these classes and who will quite quickly pipe up that 'I never learnt that at school". Fact was they had their ears wired into a small machine in their pockets and their faces staring blankly at a utube site, rather than engaging in the curriculum. If it was pre-laptop era, they would have been drawing pictures in their workbooks (if they brought them to school) and planning their weekend wardrobe rather than engaging in the curriculum.

I can show you two classes of year 8 maths students who returned from the last break totally adament that "we have never done mean median and mode before" even though we did it for three weeks prior to the break. The year 10s will tell you they have never heard of the distributive law even though they spend three months supposedly practising it in year 8 and another three months in year 9.

I have two school aged children children and these days for spare cash I am also a sessional tafe and vcal teacher (year 11's and 12's)..so not a great guess from you.

I never said "i never learnt that at school" - I said 'I dont use what i learnt in school"....geez people are selective.
 
I never said "i never learnt that at school" - I said 'I dont use what i learnt in school"....geez people are selective.

Thank you for the clarification. I hope readers here can take you more seriously now that we know you DO know what goes on in the education industry.

I was commenting from a general perspective. I have been involved in many discussions over the years with people who have suggested we teach the same things you have suggested. I was specifically referring to the current young ones in my classrooms too, not you. I often hear people saying, sometimes privately but also publicly, say on radio and TV, that "they should teach xyz at school" coming from those who didnt pay attention when they were being taught xy and z at school.
Cheers
 
For many that do know what is taught in schools (don't forget it includes life skills, safety, social responsibility, etc.), the complaint is there is too much variety.
 
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