New Compulsory Land Acquisition Laws in NSW/Australia?

Dear All,

1. It was reported in the local SMH Newspapers today that

a. "AMID rising opposition to the State Government's proposed planning reforms, the (NSW) Planning Minister, Frank Sartor, is expected to drop a controversial plan to allow state and local governments compulsorily to acquire private land to sell to developers."

b. "State and local governments now cannot sell land that has been acquired from a private party or transfer it to another person. "

c. " The proposed amendments to the planning act make it clear that it may be done as part of a profitable proposal by a private developer if it meets a test of "net public benefit".

d. The proposed change, described by legal authorities as remarkable because it impinges on property rights, is opposed by all opposition parties, including the Shooters and Christian Democrats.

e. ".. Mr Sartor would say that the draft bill had to be discussed by cabinet (first). "One option is whether to let the court decide the issue," he said. "The State Government has got significant compulsory acquisition powers anyway, so I don't think we need new legislation."

f. "The Liberal Party and the Greens want an upper house inquiry into the proposed changes."

g. "It is all well and good for the Government to have those powers for essential things, but this is clearly much broader than that and provides opportunity for misuse," said a Shooters Party MLC, Roy Smith. He said the party could not support compulsory acquisition at all."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/compulsory-purchase-backdown/2008/05/09/1210131264148.html



2. Do you agree that State Govt and Local Councils in Australia, should be allowed to compulsorily acquire private lands for sale to developers, in first place?

3. What are the various existing Laws governing the Compulsory Land Acquisition in Australia, at this point in time?

4. How are existing land owners' legal rights properly safeguarded, at this point in time?

5. Are the existing safeguards adequate and effective to protect the existing land ownership rights in the various Australian States?

6. Do such Compulsory Land Acquisition Laws in Australia, varies from State to State, in its legislations, laws practices and subsequent enforcement procedures, on the ground

7. When enacted in the near future, how will this new Laws affect the legal property rights of existing land owners in Australia?

8. How are the lands being presently identified and compulsorily acquired within Australia, at this point in time?

9. What is the present officially deemed to be the acceptable "reasonable" compensation rate for lands to be acquired compulsorily?

10. How can existing land owners' property rights be properly safeguarded if such Compulsory Land Acquisition Laws should be enacted in NSW/Australia in the near future?

11. How will the various housing markets in Australia be eventually affected by these Compulsory Land Acqusition Laws?

12. For your further comments and discussion, please.

13. Thank you.


Cheers,
Kenneth KOH
 
Dear All,

1. It was reported in the local SMH Newspapers today that

a. "AMID rising opposition to the State Government's proposed planning reforms, the (NSW) Planning Minister, Frank Sartor, is expected to drop a controversial plan to allow state and local governments compulsorily to acquire private land to sell to developers."

b. "State and local governments now cannot sell land that has been acquired from a private party or transfer it to another person. "

c. " The proposed amendments to the planning act make it clear that it may be done as part of a profitable proposal by a private developer if it meets a test of "net public benefit".

d. The proposed change, described by legal authorities as remarkable because it impinges on property rights, is opposed by all opposition parties, including the Shooters and Christian Democrats.

e. ".. Mr Sartor would say that the draft bill had to be discussed by cabinet (first). "One option is whether to let the court decide the issue," he said. "The State Government has got significant compulsory acquisition powers anyway, so I don't think we need new legislation."

f. "The Liberal Party and the Greens want an upper house inquiry into the proposed changes."

g. "It is all well and good for the Government to have those powers for essential things, but this is clearly much broader than that and provides opportunity for misuse," said a Shooters Party MLC, Roy Smith. He said the party could not support compulsory acquisition at all."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/compulsory-purchase-backdown/2008/05/09/1210131264148.html

amazing what a 2 party preferred system can get away with.



2. Do you agree that State Govt and Local Councils in Australia, should be allowed to compulsorily acquire private lands for sale to developers, in first place?

compulsory for infrastructure like freeways, hospitals, ecological habitats, schools etc? yes. for onsale to OTHER individuals for a higher price? no. that's called theft.

3. What are the various existing Laws governing the Compulsory Land Acquisition in Australia, at this point in time?

when you develop a large parcel of land in WA, you are required to "surrender" 10% of it for public open space (parks, lakes etc) AS WELL as pay a POS fee....!

compulsory land acquisition is happening in the south west as part of this dictatorship labour govt and their "open space forever" policy.not talking just scrub and bush, we're talking prime cropgrowing and grazing agricultural land here.


4. How are existing land owners' legal rights properly safeguarded, at this point in time?

as above, they aren't.

5. Are the existing safeguards adequate and effective to protect the existing land ownership rights in the various Australian States?

hell no.

6. Do such Compulsory Land Acquisition Laws in Australia, varies from State to State, in its legislations, laws practices and subsequent enforcement procedures, on the ground

yes they do. i believe Tasmania is he worst in Australia at present, however, we're talking about native, isolated, one of a kind forest here. these new laws just increase the state of NSWs draconian powers as it is. first the confiscation of someone's legal property (car) for doing with it what people have done since the car was invented, and now a profiteering land grab.

7. When enacted in the near future, how will this new Laws affect the legal property rights of existing land owners in Australia?

think "nazi occupation" but on a poofteenth scale.

8. How are the lands being presently identified and compulsorily acquired within Australia, at this point in time?

local govt see a need in a certain area around existing infrastructure. if the owners don;t oblige to develop the property to the local structure plan and it's maximum pre-determined yield within a given period of time, the govt pays a developers profit to the land owner (0-5% above englobo value) and confiscates the land - very similar to when the water corp laid the sewer thru perth's inner northern suburbs - connect within 2 years or we'll connect you then bill you.

9. What is the present officially deemed to be the acceptable "reasonable" compensation rate for lands to be acquired compulsorily?

as above, generaly no more than 5% above englobo value.

10. How can existing land owners' property rights be properly safeguarded if such Compulsory Land Acquisition Laws should be enacted in NSW/Australia in the near future?

buy somewhere nowhere near infrastructure...?

11. How will the various housing markets in Australia be eventually affected by these Compulsory Land Acqusition Laws?

make for shaky grounds IMO.

12. For your further comments and discussion, please.

13. Thank you.


Cheers,
Kenneth KOH

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Originally Posted by Kennethkohsg
"3. What are the various existing Laws governing the Compulsory Land Acquisition in Australia, at this point in time?

when you develop a large parcel of land in WA, you are required to "surrender" 10% of it for public open space (parks, lakes etc) AS WELL as pay a POS fee....!"

compulsory land acquisition is happening in the south west as part of this dictatorship labour govt and their "open space forever" policy.not talking just scrub and bush, we're talking prime cropgrowing and grazing agricultural land here.

8. How are the lands being presently identified and compulsorily acquired within Australia, at this point in time?

local govt see a need in a certain area around existing infrastructure. if the owners don;t oblige to develop the property to the local structure plan and it's maximum pre-determined yield within a given period of time, the govt pays a developers profit to the land owner (0-5% above englobo value) and confiscates the land - very similar to when the water corp laid the sewer thru perth's inner northern suburbs - connect within 2 years or we'll connect you then bill you.


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Dear Bluecard!,

1. Thank you for your reply.

2. Reference to your reply to Q3 above, do the same policies apply in all the Australian States too?

3. If no, what are the different laws and practices in each of the Australian States other than in WA, please?


4. As to your reply to Q8 above, is there some sort of 10 or 20 Years Overall City Development Masterplan available in Australia where specific development plans for the affected areas/suburbs are pre-identified and being officially outlined and made known to the public in advance?

5. Do the overall City/Area Development Plan and areas where designated lands in certain area has been pre-identified to be "compuslorily acquired", have certain specific time frame, which these proposed developments are likely to take place in future?

6. Can the Australians publicly access these proposed Development Masterplan easily through their Local Councils or/and via Internet?


7. Looking forward from learning from you further, please.

8. Thank you.

Cheers,
Kenneth KOH
 
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I'd suggest it's pretty obvious which specific area in New South Wales the Minister has in mind for compulsory acquisition of private property and onsale to private developers.

"The Hon. Frank Ernest SARTOR, MP

Minister for Planning, Minister for Redfern Waterloo, Minister for the Arts"

http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/Pr...d74717111bc7eaf9ca256cfa0012c3af!OpenDocument

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Dear Ajax,

1. is Redfern the only area in NSW where lands are likely to be compusorily acquired in the near future?

2. If no, then how do I go about finding out all these developments plans and all the areas where lands will be "compulsorily acquired" and their likely acqusiition/development time frames, please.

3. Looking forward to learning further from you, please.

4. Thank you.

Cheers,
Kenneth KOH
 
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