Ode to the one that got away.

[--(< PJ >)--]

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
The banker said,
I couldn't finance you.

*sigh*

 

[PI141]

Sorry ! Banks are really tough at the moment

 

[Simon]

Are you giving up on it?

 

[kissfan]

Roses may be red
Violets may be blue
If one bank thinks you're a pretender
Try another lender

Regards
Marty

 

[asdf]

Typical banks, all they want is their riskless profits. They don't lend to seasoned investors who know how to buy 20% below market. Instead they lend on the fly by night pay cheques to buy multi million OTP grossly valued apartments or newly developed homes where there is bugger all equity in the purchase. Retail banking heavily subsidises the losses suffered by the appalling lending decisions their corporate and institutional counterparts make. With each corporate default, there goes another couple of hundred million written off the books. Why would you bother? They're lucky to make a quarter of the margin you would get by lending to a Somersoftian even at full doc rates. I know which loan I'd rather write if I was a lender - to investors who know how to buy and develop IPs instead of to the fancy powerpoint presentations with ridiculous cash flow assumptions to RMs and credit officers. I suppose RMs don't get paid enough lending $1-2M to retail projects than they would working on a $500M lending facility to say a Babcock or Allco project or General Motors. Oops, there goes $500M of shareholders cash down the toilet with the RM getting rewarded with a redundancy package through a massive golden handshake.

Banks - can't live with them, can't live without em!

 

[Token Funder]

Typical banks, all they want is their riskless profits. They don't lend to seasoned investors who know how to buy 20% below market. Instead they lend on the fly by night pay cheques to buy multi million OTP grossly valued apartments or newly developed homes where there is bugger all equity in the purchase. Retail banking heavily subsidises the losses suffered by the appalling lending decisions their corporate and institutional counterparts make. With each corporate default, there goes another couple of hundred million written off the books. Why would you bother? They're lucky to make a quarter of the margin you would get by lending to a Somersoftian even at full doc rates. I know which loan I'd rather write if I was a lender - to investors who know how to buy and develop IPs instead of to the fancy powerpoint presentations with ridiculous cash flow assumptions to RMs and credit officers. I suppose RMs don't get paid enough lending $1-2M to retail projects than they would working on a $500M lending facility to say a Babcock or Allco project or General Motors. Oops, there goes $500M of shareholders cash down the toilet with the RM getting rewarded with a redundancy package through a massive golden handshake.

Banks - can't live with them, can't live without em!

Quite right.

Overconfident property investors confidently trotting out the phrase "20% under market" without a hint of ironynever make up a big share of recoveries for the average residential lender

 

[--(< PJ >)--]

Hi guys!

Marty - your poem is awesome, and that's good advice.

Token Funder - yes, I use the bank as a last stage 'reality check' after doing my own due dilligence. I might think it's a great deal, but if the panel valuation (I mean the one I have done after I dispute the first one they try to do in-house) tells me the LVR margin is too tight... then sadly, it is.

I could have leveraged/tapped equity in another property I have, but I wanted this next purchase to stand alone in order to best facilitate the next step after this one in my investment plan. It's so hard to pull back/out when you know you should!

*sigh*

I was just having a sook, I guess. Part of the grieving process to stick to my plan/criteria and let go. Don't worry Simon - I'm not giving up, I'm just looking for an alternative deal that 'works' the way I want it to...

I guess there's always Plan B, and aaaaaaaaaaalways many more deals out there right folks?!

PJ