qazwsx's query to Peter Spann.

Peter Spann's new book title

qazwsx said:
Hey Peter,

You gonna be a regular contributer or are you just here to promote the book?. Everyone here seems to have taken a shining to you and its allways great to have more experienced knowlegable people on the forum.

hi all!
just thought i would introduce myself. i love this forum, just when i think i know what i'm doing something new crops up here that i hadnt even thought about.
i bought peter's book on the weekend myself, and am currently trying to justify buying the home study kit and pro trader later on.
has anyone done this? i understand that it wont be easy, but any tips and advice would be greatly appreciated. i have plenty of cash (60k) and am looking at diversifying from RE at present to shares/options
thanks all
cheers
shaun
 
Dunno

qazwsx said:
I have another question for ya Peter. Whats your opinion of Navras managed fund as a means of generating cashflow to fund negatively geared investments?. Do you consider it generally higher or lower risk compared to a commercial property trust?, are the returns generally (over a full cycle) higher or lower?.

Although I have seen Navra's name mentioned a number of times I am not familiar with what they do. I have looked at their website but know no more. If they are financial planners I am sure they would be happy to answer your questions for you.
 
Beautiful People

qazwsx said:
If you werent rich at the time, how did you woooo over your "beautiful friend" :D .

OK – interesting question. I guess this could get me into more trouble with people than any other question I have answered. So I think it’s going to be another long answer. Again, like everything else I say – this is my strategy and it works for me. I would find it interesting and amusing for any women to comment on my thoughts! Let’s keep it light hearted and fun. (Also we need to take my comments in the context that I am in a long term and committed relationship).

Let me say up front, as much as I like to boost my self-esteem I acknowledge in the modern world I would not be the first pick of most women primarily because of my tendency to be “extra-padded”. :)

(Yes, but all you thin people will all be laughing on the other side of your face if we ever experience a nuclear winter! :p ).

My body seems programmed by pre-1960’s views of what a wealthy people should look like! But I do find it a bit tedious people rubbing my tummy for luck.

When I was younger and thinner I was quite handsome and I am sure if I chose to be I could lose weight and so on but for now I am not going down that path.

Because I have mostly wanted meaningful relationships in my life I have obviously required more than looks and money. There is nothing to preclude good looking and rich people from have meaningful and fulfilling relationships but if anybody were only to date / partner / marry based on looks or money then I suggest that a meaningful relationship is not what they are heading for.

If you do want just fun and games with highly attractive people, money is certainly a good way to get it.

I remember one night being in the high rollers room at Star City Casino and getting a lot of attention from a very good looking woman. After cashing in my chips I went back to my Ferrari which was parked “on the ramp” to discover the same gorgeous, long legged, short skirted blond sitting in the passenger seat of the car. When asked who she was her reply was “I am your date for the night, and don’t worry I’ll make it worth your while.” Well, I was 31 and single and thought, “why not?” Dated her for a few months! And it was worth it!

However, while those type of "transactional relationships" can be easy and fun they are not for me. I am a great believer in true love.

Having said that I am a hypocrite because while I acknowledge there could be some improvement to be made on my physical presentation I do not date “unattractive people” (inside or out). My girlfriends have ranged from attractive to stunning and most have been the envy of every guy who comes into contact with them because of their looks but here’s my winning strategy…

I don’t date them because of their looks per se. I date them for who they are. If they are just attractive and don’t share my values and view on life then there is no point is there?

Believe it or not most beautiful women are rarely approached in any social situation by anybody apart from the most attractive /cocky men (and these guys are often only interested in them because they are attractive) or the most sleazy men. And contrary to popular opinion I have always found beautiful women to give me the time of day as long as I approach them with the genuine interest in getting to know them. Then it’s up to me.

The other thing I have found is that women are highly critical of themselves and each other but rarely critical of men unless they are complete idiots, slobs or wan%#ers. While most have as a fantasy meeting and falling in love with a guy who is rich, smart, handsome and funny, they can be VERY realistic when they think that love is possible. And while you see a lot of attractive women with other gorgeous men (Jennifer Anson and Brad Pitt come to mind) you see HEAPS of good looking women with ugly men.

Generally if I found somebody attractive I would get to know their friends – even for a few minutes or hours – a good referral always works wonders. Once introduced I would then simply adopt the strategy I “learnt” from Michael Hutchence. Kylie Minogue once said in an interview that the reason he was so successful with women was that when they were with him he made them feel like they are the only person in the world.

I learnt the “surface skills” through NLP and other pop-psychology of building rapport on a deep level and then focus intently upon them while at the same time matching my needs and desires to what they say and do (or not) to discover if we “match”.

I look deeply and intently into her eyes. Discover everything I can about what drives her, makes her feel good, boost her self esteem on those things (everybody tells them they are good looking so rarely need to go there), ask broad ranging questions and am happy to listen to the extended answer, never look away, lean in, touch lightly and fulfil any needs I might discover (simple things like seamlessly arranging for drinks, food, walks and so on). I use no formula or standard “lines” preferring to discover her as she is prepared to let me in.

It helps that I have great timing, a sense of occasion or place, can be genuinely funny, am broadly read and know something about most things as a conversation starter and so on. I pay attention to the little things – if I make a promise I deliver. I know most people only ask questions to be polite so keep answers about myself brief and always immediately go back to her. I increase levels of intimacy only at her pace. I include friends where necessary but make sure she knows it is her who I am interested in.

It’s an approach almost impossible to resist. Trust me.

But more importantly this is not something I do to “get chicks” – this is (or at least has become) me. I am genuinely interested in most people who are not bores, close minded or bigots.

And last but certainly not least I ALWAYS try to part friends with ex’s and so I have a fairly “untarnished” reputation in that area too – I have found that girls generally like to know that you are friendly (although not too friendly) with your ex’s. This helps with your “rep” and “referrals”. Two of my long term partners were introduced to me by my ex’s!

So there you go – hardly property related but may be an interesting talking point (or not)?
 
Peter Spann said:
I remember one night being in the high rollers room at Star City Casino and getting a lot of attention from a very good looking woman. After cashing in my chips I went back to my Ferrari which was parked “on the ramp” to discover the same gorgeous, long legged, short skirted blond sitting in the passenger seat of the car. When asked who she was her reply was “I am your date for the night, and don’t worry I’ll make it worth your while.” Well, I was 31 and single and thought, “why not?” Dated her for a few months! And it was worth it!

LOL

How many other people tried to click on the underlined word ??????

I wanted to see how it was worth it !!

:rolleyes: Man I need to get off the 'puter for a while.
 
Peter,
You say your lowest beauty concession is the grade "attractive". I am curious to know what physical "flaws" would drop a woman out of this category. Webbed toes perhaps? Dimpled knees? Thigh girth larger than your forearm? More than three discernible brow furrows? Are we talking a tush requirement more like Paris Hilton or Jennifer Lopez? (I am sure Miss Hilton's personal assistant carries two cushions at all times - one for her mistress's poor little bony ass and the other for the posterial pleasure of her delightful canine fashion accessory.) ;)
What happens when the glorious objects of your exclusive affection awake to, say, two pimples on their stunning chin? Do they leap from your satin bedsheets, hand clamped firmly over offending chin and run elegantly for the bathroom? And in this bathroom do they maintain their blemish concealment cosmetic in a handy 500ml handpump beside the compulsory tibetan goat placenta skin rejuvenating cream? ;)
Do they in their quiet moments quiver in fear in front of that bathroom mirror when they note the bloom of youth slowly dissipating? Are they free to request surgery funds when the fountain of youth has slowed from a gush to a gurgle? Or do they live with the silent knowledge that one day you will see unmistakably that expiration date stamped on their forehead that all that botox and expensive cosmetic was meant to keep hidden?
Must applicants come with previous modeling experience and a permanent weekly booking with the city's finest dayspas? ;)
Do they require that you HAVE to be rich? Is that the trade-off? :rolleyes:

Ellie
 
Wow.. What honesty

I think you could pad that seduction info into a book, give it a suggestive title, and make a fortune ;)

I would have used the word "candour" in the heading, but wasn't certain how to spell it.

The "transactional relationship" and "true love" thoughts deserves a thread of their own I think. Everything in life seems to be of a transactional nature of one sort of another. I'm not sure if I have the courage you seem to in posting too many of my thoughts on the matter however.

Top book by the way, should finish reading it this weekend. I haven't notice anyone comment on this yet but there is a certain similarity between 10 million in 10 years (Spann) and 1 million in 1 year (McKnight). I would take the 1 million in 1 year due to compounding and CPI factors :D

WaySolid
 
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WaySolid said:
Top books by the way, should finish reading it this weekend. I haven't notice anyone comment on this yet but there is a certain similarity between 10 million in 10 years (Spann) and 1 million in 1 year (McKnight). I would take the 1 million in 1 year due to compounding and CPI factors :D
There's a bit of a difference between the two books.

Steve's book is "How I...", Peter's book is "How you can...". I suspect Peter's book could have been "How I made $20M+++ in 10 years".
 
Ellie,

We've all had a lifetime of conditioning defining what is "attractive". But in today's PC society, I'm not even allowed to say that I find a woman attractive. Peter has made a few thoughts public which not everybody will agree with.

Peter has learnt a magic touch in many ways.

I have learnt a lot from his ideas on wealth creation, and have enjoyed his presentations on many other levels as well.

I don't agree with all his way of thinking. That's my right to disagree.

There may though be more attractive ways of disagreeing though.
 
Hi all,

Just to change the topic back to something along the lines of the original poll, I have a question for Peter.

What percentage of the population could reach the $10m in ten years??(your thoughts)


bye
 
Peter,

I don't want to interrupt you answering Bill's question, but I just wanted to say since I haven't read your books or taken your courses this is pretty much the first time I've come across something about you (I say pretty much because a few years back I did buy a property investing magazine that had you on the cover with your Ferrari). Anyway, in my typical understating ways I want to tell you that I think you're the real deal in many ways. Not too often I come across someone that knows about options trading, neuro-linguistic programming, seduction, public speaking, business management, and wealth accumulation. You walk the walk and it's impressed me. You seem very genuine - congrats on your achievements.
 
Geoff,

You say "There may though be more attractive ways of disagreeing though."

That IS tongue in cheek, right? Or do I not only have to look as attractive as possible - I also have to disagree as attractively as possible???

hahaha

:rolleyes:


Ellie :)
 
Well said glebe & totally agree. Just to add to that. I've been a spann fan for a few years now & he has always displayed & maintained a high level of integrity throughout the years of teaching wealth creation. Keep up the good work Peter!

BTW: I took your mums advice and bought your new book! what can I say?
Give yourself another pat on the back.

When is your trading options book going to be released?

Cheers
P :)
 
Good to see

leapyeah said:
You say your lowest beauty concession is the grade "attractive".

Good to see at least one woman "buying in" to the conversation.

Come on girls – I KNEW the post would be controversial before I wrote it and I DID say I was a hypocrite. Thought this might actually be a fun topic to debate.

Now I know most of your post was in jest (and quite funny too), but I wanted to maintain the controversy by being rude enough to point out something I think is important. Said with a friendly tone and smile - I think you reveal your own biases and prejudices against "beautiful" women. You have stereotyped them in a particular manner common only to other women.

In my post I mentioned that it is men who would regard my partners as attractive to stunning and, while I said that women are fair to men I also said they are impossible on themselves and other women.

Men have a really BROAD range of what they find attractive. I have been sitting with a group of women and notice what I think is an attractive girl walk past and go in my head (not dumb enough to say this out loud anymore) - “Phowar – what a spunk”, while at the same time the women around me start tearing her apart. Who know where this comes from???

And remember, I have rarely met a guy who cuts a woman down to the sum of her parts like most women do. Men see the whole package as gorgeous (pimples and all) – whereas women often say, “Oh, look at her arse or look at her legs or can you believe those thighs?” And my males friends are going – either “Huh, what ARE you on about – she’s a spunk” or “ YEAH, just look at her arse – drool !!!”

So my male friends have always thought my partners are beautiful – I can not say the same for my female friends.
 
Answers to specific questions

leapyeah said:
What happens when the glorious objects of your exclusive affection awake to, say, two pimples on their stunning chin?

Mmm, knowing the girls I date they would probably squeeze them on me and run!
 
Answers to specific questions

leapyeah said:
Do they in their quiet moments quiver in fear in front of that bathroom mirror when they note the bloom of youth slowly dissipating?

The fact that beauty is linked to youth is a female (magazine and product) promoted fallacy.
One of the most beautiful women I know is 72 and when her husband kicks it she is in serious danger of a move by me!
 
Answers to specific questions

leapyeah said:
Must applicants come with previous modeling experience and a permanent weekly booking with the city's finest dayspas? ;)

Nope - I did the "I only date models" thing for a couple of years but found 90% of them a vacuous waste of space and a bottomless pit of self loathing and low self-esteem.

Having said that, my "beautiful friend" referred to in my book was a model (the last one I dated) when I met her.

However she hated it and I encouraged her to do what she had always wanted to do - be an artist.

Not only is she now very successful at that she also runs her own multi-million dollar turnover business that is very successful too.

And here's why my strategy needs to so good to succeed (considering my own person impediments to success)...

Because (and I failed to mention this) not only do I want to date partners who are beautiful (inside and out) but they also must be independently successful or share my value that personal growth is important as well!

So these women hardly need me OR my money.
 
Answers to specific questions

leapyeah said:
Do they require that you HAVE to be rich? Is that the trade-off?

I think they see it as a bonus. But as I mentioned they don't need me OR my money so I obviously have to bring something else to the relationship otherwise they would not be prepared to tolerate the sacrifices the constant pursuit of goals leads to.

I think it is my core values that are important. I guess if I were to flip on those it might be a problem. But I also view a relationship as a constantly evolving thing that needs considerable work, time and love to maintain. This is the flaw in the wedding ceremony. We think we only have to commit once under one contract. For me I constantly have to reassess myself to live up to my partners expectations of me as she grows and evolves along with me.
 
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