Super and Death

Not many people realise that super does not form part of a person?s estate at death. Super is money held on trust for a member and until that member receives it the money is not legally their money. So when you die your will doesn?t cover what happens with your ?member benefits?. It is the trustee of the fund, subject to the deed, that decides who will get paid your super. The SIS Act restricts who the trustee can pay be memember death benefits to ? spouse (current or former), children, dependants and someone in an interdependency relationship or to your legal personal respresentative so that it does form part of your estate.

The trustee of an industry super fund is likely to be a fat man sitting in a glass office somewhere who doesn?t even know you. This stranger will decide who in your family can get the benefits. In most cases they would pay the surviving spouse with little worry. But they have the power to decide ? they could pay one child instead of all chidren, or a former spouse instead of current etc. You can overcome this problem by having a binding death benefit nomination. BDBN. This is a form which if filled in and signed correctly. and permitted by the deed, makes the trustee duty bound to follow. Any defect in the document could mean it is invalid ? there is a case where someone wrote their date of birth instead of the date of signing and his invalided the document. I also encountered a financial planning practice that had set up hundreds of these with only 1 witness = SIS regulations states you need 2 so all invalid.,

If you have a SMSF this is more critical as when a member dies the person that controls the trustee is often also a beneficiary or potential beneficiary of the fund. Imagine a SMSF worth $1mil. Dad dies and the daughter then becomes sole trustee. She has a brother, but totally disregards him and pays the $1mil to herself. THis happens all the time and this was a real case.

As super balances increase super succession planning is becoming more essential, yet I have yet to meet a client who understands what happens to their super at death.Worse, I have yet to meet a lawyer who understands it, unless that lawyer specialises in this area. I have just seen a will drafted by a solicitor where the super is dealt with in the will ? this solicitor is clearly negligent because the testator asked him to sort out his super! The client has a sole member SMSF with 1 child and himself as trustee. Fund is worth about $3mil and there is no BDNN in place ? wonder how fair the son will be to his 2 brothers and sisters if dad suddenly died.He could legally pay himself.
 
Not all BDBN lapse. If it did lapse the trustee would have discretion and could keep it out of the estate.

Yes but how hard is it to put a reminder every 3 years to sign a form? Noting that if life insurance is purchased in super, it'll mean a significant balance if you were to die young.
 
Yes but how hard is it to put a reminder every 3 years to sign a form? Nothing that if life insurance is purchased in super, it'll mean a significant balance if you were to die young.

Its hard enough to remember to put the garbage out - which I just realised I have to do.
 
As mentioned in another thread, i recently lost my biological father. Pretty much his only asset was his super and despite me being the nominated beneficiary on it, proving difficult to retrieve it.
 
At least garbage will stink enough to remind you that you've forgotten about it.

Sounds like it's worth including a binding beneficiary form with a person's tax return and just get them to sign one every year.
 
At least garbage will stink enough to remind you that you've forgotten about it.

Sounds like it's worth including a binding beneficiary form with a person's tax return and just get them to sign one every year.

Not a bad idea, but tax returns are done by accountants and BDBN by lawyers!

Another option is to have a non lapsing BDBN which is possible with SMSFs. I think some industry funds too maybe....
 
As mentioned in another thread, i recently lost my biological father. Pretty much his only asset was his super and despite me being the nominated beneficiary on it, proving difficult to retrieve it.

Trustee must pay out as soon as possible. Is it being challenged?
 
It was paid out in full to transactional account on grounds of terminal illness. Transaction end up occurring post mortem. No will.

In that case it would no longer be super, but cash with different consequences. If no will it would pass according to the intestacy rules. These vary from state to state and depend on the family situation.

If you are entitled to part or all of the estate it will need to be administered by an Administrator (not executor as no will) with all debts paid and the residue distribute to those entitled. Could be 6 months to 12 months generally.
 
In that case it would no longer be super, but cash with different consequences. If no will it would pass according to the intestacy rules. These vary from state to state and depend on the family situation.

If you are entitled to part or all of the estate it will need to be administered by an Administrator (not executor as no will) with all debts paid and the residue distribute to those entitled. Could be 6 months to 12 months generally.

Ya, I'm applying to be Administrator.
My mate who's a lawyer put it through, he seems to think 6-8 weeks?
 
Ya, I'm applying to be Administrator.
My mate who's a lawyer put it through, he seems to think 6-8 weeks?

That would be the grant or the court authority for you to act. You then have to take control of all the accounts, pay the bills, do year of death and final tax returns and then a notice of intention to distribute estate - wait 30 days after then and then can distribute. Generally.
 
Worse, I have yet to meet a lawyer who understands it, unless that lawyer specialises in this area.

I have just seen a will drafted by a solicitor where the super is dealt with in the will ? this solicitor is clearly negligent because the testator asked him to sort out his super!

So even when one engages and pays a professional for specific advice on a specialised legal or tax topic, the individual has no way of knowing that the advice or course of action is correct.

The individual gets screwed twice .... once when they engage the professional and secondly from the grave when his beneficiaries have to sort out the problem and probably think he stuffed up.

This is what I dislike about the legal and accounting systems we have in this country. It is so complex and nothing is black and white. So much so that 3 legal minds can have 3 different viewpoints on the same point of law.
 
So even when one engages and pays a professional for specific advice on a specialised legal or tax topic, the individual has no way of knowing that the advice or course of action is correct.

The individual gets screwed twice .... once when they engage the professional and secondly from the grave when his beneficiaries have to sort out the problem and probably think he stuffed up.

This is what I dislike about the legal and accounting systems we have in this country. It is so complex and nothing is black and white. So much so that 3 legal minds can have 3 different viewpoints on the same point of law.

Yes, but this is the same with many things. Think doctors - you don't know if their advice is correct. That is why you may need a specialist.

There is no way it could be otherwise. Nothing is black and white.
 
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