USA Property Management & Flip step through

USA Property Management/Flip step through & Live ATL Properties

I haven't posted for a while but thought that this might help with pointers as I just had another person contact me about another state.

I sent this to my list.... again, at 100k+ SFR, the US market just really is dubious for the Oz investor (commercial is yummier) - at 100k+ the market is US investors putting 20% down and borrowing at 3-5% - the risk is just negated there alone!:

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Years ago I wrote that the buy is probably 10% of the experience of being a US investor. The US is an AMAZING investment opportunity, it is entirely doable but it needs watching and after 15 years of doing it I can't emphasize that enough. I am being contacted more and more by people who have friends or acquaintances who have had a bad run in the US market in various states looking for advice/help etc. Most just through being ripped off on purchases or repairs but some by buying in just the wrong, wrong location and any combination of the above including “usual” US property management stories..... Whether to flee or stay is very individual but please remember, S!@#$ happens - just get on top of it! If you are being asked, try giving these basic rules....

1. Have someone one the ground who is separate from your property manager - by on the ground, I mean able to drive to your property and do something practical.

2. If you know someone screwed then this is about my yard stick:
Sell if you can walk away without losing $$. Only Oz investors (6% in a bank looks great) really are likely to want to take the money because the US investors are FINALLY back to being able to borrow at 3-5% on investment properties (I am just starting to refi over here - YIPPPPPPEEEEEeee) and thus US investors are back in force! They put only 20% down - so you are VERY likely to be able to sell out soon enough up to about 150k with ease but you will need to hold until comps match (see next post) - if you bought a 15k house for 60k, you have a long wait for comps to catch up to your purchase price. This is a rising market – if you need to hold on and there is even a chance that you can recoup your $$ within a year then do - if you can hold on without losing $$ for a year to even find out - it is probably worth it. If needs be rent for anything that will at least cover taxes and insurance until then – have a warm body in the place.


Basic Rules of Property Management from Afar
This is not Australia and tenants are not in an economy with 100% employment...in most areas you are seeing a softening of rents and nervous expat investors are the first to ditch yield. So anyone with properties over here needs to be in control way more than they would in Australia – and if the property manager isn’t giving you the right answers, find them out for yourself. Remember property managers here are generally over worked and underpaid. Getting the attention you may want for your property takes involvement.

3 things you need to be on top of: Rent, Repairs and Marketing if the property is vacant...

STAY ON TOP OF THE PROPERTY – once a month – make sure rent was paid. If you have access to your property manager’s system – ie Appfolio etc... Login – if not, ask! YOU make the decision how to proceed. Property managers are not the owners – you are. Yes, take their advice but then go with gut and be firm, make the decision. The greatest expense you can have is a vacancy but at some point you need to just make the call – this is a market that is predominantly owned by foreigners being rented to people who may well be struggling to keep their job..... It is a judgement call with personalities involved – ask your property manager for their gut.

HAVE REPAIR LIMITS in any property management contract and STICK TO THEM. If you have written into your PM contract “no repairs over $200 without prior written authorization by owner in any given month”, then have a penalty clause that gives you recourse if the property manager doesn’t follow this (** Note emergency situations are an exemption – where emergency is defined as imminent danger to life or property occurring within 2 hours). GET PHOTOS. Before and after.

KNOW WHO TO CALL to get comparative quotes – $50 can make a difference in yield... Again – WE LOVE REDBEACON.... www.redbeacon.com – but many states have different variations on the theme...the key with Redbeacon is that at least you get a guarantee.
If your property is vacant – ask for COPIES of the advertisements, the methods they are advertising and weekly (at least) updates on responses.... There is one SURE way to rent a property and that is to reduce rent – REMEMBER – you are losing $200 a week on average for every week your property is vacant but look to market comps and use Trulia/Redfin as your own guides to help YOU decide what to do. You don’t want to start a downward spiral in rents but you do need to do what you must to get the property rented.

I can’t emphasize enough the importance of having someone, anyone on the ground that can be TRUSTED to give a non inflated repair estimate or a once over of a situation....
 
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THEN to the US FLIP process... it is almost time....

This is from last year - many, many moons ago! However might help some thinking of flipping...


As the market increases, I am being asked whether I think it is worth you selling one of your properties. That is a HUGE question to which I simply ask “what else are you going to buy with the $$ and look at the numbers closely before deciding”… obviously if your property is now worth double, you won’t be able to buy back in without spending equal (ie double your initial investment give or take)…, but it may be tempting – if you can get your $$ to work better for you in another asset, market class etc (tough, tough, tough), it may be something to look at. Certainly there is an argument for flipping at the moment on face value.... Or is it? Would a 1031 Exchange perhaps be better in an increasing market?

So - the flip..... It was a great property that will do anyone proud but is really the first I would consider as the individual had a specific mission for these funds (and I would probably argue harder against flipping right now if it wasn’t an Atlanta property!!)…..however, even giving the remarkable odds do the numbers work? Is it worth selling in an appreciating market or holding and waiting? Loss of rent in interim? Even the thought that a vacant house = a house that could be broken into etc....? Remember if pitching to an owner occupier they will want it vacant (and if you have just upgraded, you probably don’t want a month to month tenant ruining it)– if pitching to an investor, you can have tenanted but you had better make sure your list price matches an investors maths index.

With that....

Property Location: Georgia Property in Lithonia, Dekalb County

Purchase Info
Purchase price: $55,000k Closing Month October 2012 from short sale that started January with a list price of $42k….. patience was required as per all short sales and HIGHLY indicative of the price increase that will occur during negotiations!

Purchase Closing Costs: $976 (Seller INSISTED on evil closing attorney with crazy high fees) includes title search, attorney fee, insurance

Specs: 4 bedroom, 2.5 bathroom close to shops and freeway, 1996 construction, 2500 sq ft

SUMMARY OF FLIP (EXPLAINED BELOW):
TOTAL INITIAL OUTLAY: $68,500
Purchase & closing costs = $56,000
Facilitation to SelectUSAProperty LLC= $4,500 ( covered usual finding of the property, oversight of all repairs, listing the property for sale, showing the property and selling costs etc) -did not cover the cost of the actual brokerage fee or coop to selling agent
Repairs = $8,000 (rounded up)

LIST PRICE AND PURCHASE OFFER PRICE: $114,500 (Offer received within a week)

NOTE: SELLERS CONTRIBUTION TO CLOSING COSTS: $3,500*** normally seller doesn’t have to pay closing costs in GA but EVERYTHING is up for negotiation and type of financing comes to play here

NET PURCHASE PRICE (IN REAL TERMS) = $111,000

TOTAL EXPENSES: computation is done off offer price
SALES COMMISSION TO SELLING AGENT & BROKER: $4,007.50
STATE CG TAX: $3,360
FEDERAL CG TAX: $8,400

NET $$ TO SELLER (not taking personal tax implications into consideration) = $27,232.50

Please note individual taxation and depreciation (if applicable) considerations MUST be done by an accountant – these are working on sheer face value numbers for broad example only.

EXPLANATIONOF ABOVE:
Total Repair costs (rounded up to next $1k): $8k (carpet/paint/light fixtures/window/doors/some roofing etc)

List price for sale: $114,500 – Date of Listing: October 26.

Offer price: $114,500 Date of offer: November 3 – VA financed deal (fabulous in theory as guaranteed) but asking for seller contribution to closing costs see below


Sales Commission** (See below): @3.5%

State Capital Gains Tax: 6% (NOT APPLICABLE IF THIS HAD BEEN VEGAS)

Federal Capital Gains Tax: 15% (APPLICABLE UNLESS DOING A 1031 Exchange ***** NOTE NEW CAP GAINS AS PER 2013)

***Seller Paid Closing Costs: $3,500 as part of deal - THIS IS COMPLETELY OPEN FOR NEGOTIATION BUT FHA AND VA PURCHASERS WILL PUSH FOR YOU TO TAKE THE BURDEN... They generally don’t have $$ in bank – again FACTOR IN!!

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**AGENCY COMMISSION EXPLAINED
As you know, I started this with a general hatred of Real Estate agents and have often asked them to justify their charges… granted it takes about 45 minutes to put a listing into the MLS (Multiple Listing System) and 1 hour to drive to the house and put a sign and lockbox on the property…. Then you sit back…. There may be some tough negotiating with idiot other agents down the line however I will leave that aside for now as everyone deserves to make a living and it is what it is thus the below is what “others” will do and not what we as a group will face… = )

SELLER PAYS ALL THE REAL ESTATE COMMISSION IN THIS MARKET– While you can not legally fix commission (price fixing = BIG no no) most brokerages have astonishingly come up with a charge around 6% of gross sales price for a listing (if you are a frequent user of an agency, you would be able to knock it down). This commission is split between person who brings a buyer to the table (buyers agent or selling agent) and the sellers agent aka listing agent and listing brokerage)

Breakdown of Commission: Generally 50% of this commission or about 3% goes to the buyers agent or selling agent (= agent representing the buyer or agent physically bringing the buyer to the table) and 50% goes to the sellers agent again, aka listing agent to be split with the listing brokerage who takes a cut

To whit: when I enter a listing into the MLS, (the god databases of all properties on the market that feeds sites like Zillow, Trulia, Redfin, Realtor etc.. there is NO other method of a property getting access to all these sites at once) whether that listing is a rental or a sale, I have to specify how much commission the seller will pay to another agent to show and rent or sell that property….. for rentals for example I pay a flat $400 if another agent brings a tenant (that is part of what you pay me so it is behind the scenes for your first tenant) but for a sale…? As the seller, you can try to offer less than 3% but your issue may be that no one shows your property to a potential buyer…. They will ABSOLUTELY show the one that offers more commission of course = )

While I can opt to not charge you my fees, if I want another agent to show the property, we have to get them to open the door….further, every agent works under a broker and part of the listing agents fees go to their brokerage for office overheads etc.

Advertising used: I actually only put the listing in one of the 2 MLS systems and plonked a sign in the front garden. The price was decided from recent comp sales, Comparative Market Analysis, gut, beverages and we looked at about 6 of the currently active properties for sale in the market within 2 miles ( none were available within 1 mile which has effect below) all were comparatively DIRE…and laughably so for what it is worth…)….

SO, WHAT NEXT? APPRAISAL!
Just because you ask for a price, and you get an offer for it… the next thing is whether on a financed deal the appraiser for the lender will think that the property is worth the amount that you do (we all love our babies)….
SO – short answer – NO. It isn’t…. – are you kidding? This is an increasing market – we are LITERALLY asking 60k (just over DOUBLE) what we paid for it effectively less than 4 weeks ago!

REMEMBER – THIS IS FINANCED NOT CASH – many Australians have paid close to 25k over what their “wholesaler” sold the property for... I would love it if more Australians had at least a CMA (done by an agent to compare properties) before purchasing but a full appraisal is a different game.

VALUATIONS are at LEAST 6 months behind the bell curve. FACTOR IT IN…. EVERY FHA (First Home) or VA (Veteran’s) loan or lender (your primary target market most likely) will require their own appraiser to take a look…. In a rising market this makes life TOUGH and most deals realistically come amok here. Make SURE that you have an addendum, a counter or something to figure out how to deal with a valuation where the appraiser who may only take properties currently sold within the last 6 months (ie closed and closings take up to ?? Lol, this one was 10 months but will show as an October closing of 55k).... within ONE MILE of your property into consideration (there are only 2 for the record in this instance) – you are going to be dealing with generally a very slow buyers agent on the other side. At this level, we are not marketing to an investor as much as we are a home owner…..they tend to gravitate towards different agents.

SO…to sum up, a few hurdles: firstly, we have to justify the price via appraisal – or not.... again, tough as the property has only been owned for 30 days…. The very price the property was purchased at by us will be pulled as a low comp! THEN we also have to overcome the fact that if they are offering market price versus appraised value, they may WELL have to come up with the $$ to go over list so even if it won’t hold up, consider doing a preliminary appraisal so your buyer is HIGHLY aware that they will have to meet the shortfall one way or another....ie have a plan – vendor finance the difference etc…HARD to do with an opposing agent who has the brain cells of a gnat but you need to be firm.

ALSO FACTOR IN – no matter how beautiful you think you have done the job, codes change, tornadoes happen, you missed something etc and the lender may have some lender required costs that arise – this means that the appraisal will come in BASED on those repairs having been done…. If in doubt you want to pad yourself on this – you will only be pleasantly surprised!

ANTICIPATE – future home owner wanting something – fridges, microwaves, allowance for closing costs... Needs to be thought about when figuring out bottom lines! “No” is a good word = )

THEN?? File goes to closing attorney (in Georgia, in other states it would be a title agency), we wait approximaly 4 weeks (welcome to financed deals – there is NO logical reason a file shouldn’t close within only 7 days – there is NOTHING that can’t be done if you did have the appraisal already done) and then closing…

Worth it? Your decision….
 
ATL Live Properties

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For giggles - these are LIVE - ATL properties above the I20 in Atlanta - as in EVERYTHING above the I20 highway (which dissects Atlanta east west) that is under 120k and over I think 70k, 4 bedrooms plus and within an age group you would want to look at....

If you like any of these properties you would be contacting the listing agent and making a full cash bid and standing a good chance (check close to shops and schools).

This is simply to show what the market is doing - seriously???!!!! in a city of 5.8 million there are 20 live properties over 4 bedrooms that meet the above criteria?? This is a market that has SHIFTED........

Welcome to a world where the US can borrow again - if you bought in already without being screwed on the purchase?? Welcome to the world where you can seriously make money on flips.
 
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For giggles - these are LIVE - ATL properties above the I20 in Atlanta - as in EVERYTHING above the I20 highway (which dissects Atlanta east west) that is under 120k and over I think 70k, 4 bedrooms plus and within an age group you would want to look at....

If you like any of these properties you would be contacting the listing agent and making a full cash bid and standing a good chance (check close to shops and schools).

This is simply to show what the market is doing - seriously???!!!! in a city of 5.8 million there are 20 live properties over 4 bedrooms that meet the above criteria?? This is a market that has SHIFTED........

Welcome to a world where the US can borrow again - if you bought in already without being screwed on the purchase?? Welcome to the world where you can seriously make money on flips.

Thanks Emma for the update.

This is good news.

I am hoping that in 18 months house prices in Atlanta will be back to prices in 2003. Infact, I am surprised how quickly it is starting to rebound

MTR
 
MTR
I think we all said it would bounce but yes, ISN'T it crazy how quickly it happens... look, we had a FABULOUS run - zero sense now on SFR .... but it is the same as I remember watching it 10 years ago on the up .......(I AM SO OLD) - ironically I put 4-5 years on it in 2009 to bounce and 6 of my personal properties with a partner I said 2013/14 to.... (I am starting to sell those in Vegas)

SFR in the US made sense for the briefest of periods but only when the US couldn't borrow - there are 330 million people sick of a recession and ironically most just are that - SICK of it.... everything this year feels ( for no one specific identifiable reason) better - I can say it has a lot to do with those that were foreclosed on in 2009 being able to get back FHA financing.....

SFR was great - while it lasted... the US will continue to be FAB for investing but not SFR. back to MFR and commercial now... however we will all have to live through a 6 month softening of rents in the interim..

But this IS fun to watch! Interestingly I am thinking of literally landbanking - vacant lots in VERY highly desirable areas - it is that crazy of a cycle again...
 
HUGE Las Vegas news...

For those who invested there and those that didn't....

ECHELON SITE
Genting Group (Malaysia) is taking over the Echelon site on the strip and investing up to 5 BILLION into an Asian themed resort with reported 3,500 rooms, 250,000 ft of retail and 500,000 of convention space!!! SO SO SO exciting – opposite Wynn/Encore/Riviera area....(have to do a snoopy dance as this is less than a mile from my beautiful dream formerly burnt out house I call home....) For a city of our size – just 1.8 million in population to see this sort of investment??


Updates from previously mentioned:

FORMER SAHARA HOTEL – now SLS Hotel & Casino (offering “unmatched elegance”) opening 2014
Even closer to home (literally) is this incredible site - the old Sahara hotel that DAILY changes shape – they are ripping down the dome already – it is CRAZY to see the pace of development (and very exciting) – they seem on track for their fall 2014 slated opening.

FORMER IMPERIAL PALACE – now QUAD Hotel
Partially renovated already this is one large scaffolding site being unveiled daily.... Again, cool to watch.
http://www.vegasinc.com/news/2012/sep/17/imperial-palace-no-more/

WATER PARK
Of course I am just thrilled they are also opening 2 new water parks and bought season tickets to one of them... (the Australian designed one...).

MASSIVE FERRIS WHEEL CONSTRUCTION
Unbelievable to see this going up between Harrah’s and Flamingo – one of TWO of the things going up that is in theory for a brief period of time going to be the world’s largest ferris wheel (some other city is building a bigger one I think) - the other one they are building in Vegas will be relegated to the 3rd largest ferris wheel because of course this being Vegas we need more of everything.

PERSONAL THOUGHTS – LOVE A BOOM/BUST TOWN.....
So, everything is popping and that means jobs, more development etc – if all goes ahead (which I can’t see why it wouldn’t) - we are headed for a Vegas boom. Sadly my bet will be our cheap labour will go so expect to see contractors harder to find and charging a premium but of course rents also going up over the next few years as our wonderful little town burgeons in population (to waay more than we can accommodate), then overbuilding will occur and 7-10 years on we will probably be back to a downward spiral – but for now???? This will be the ride that I personally bet on back in 2009.

QUOTE
"We are incredibly grateful to the leaders of the State of Nevada, Clark County and the City of Las Vegas for joining us in announcing what will be a fantastic addition to the top resort destination in the United States," said KT Lim, chairman and CEO and the Genting Group in a statement. "This is a great day for Genting, Las Vegas, and the State of Nevada, and we look Group forward to taking full advantage of this exciting new opportunity."

"The entrance of one of the world's leading resort gaming developers into Nevada is another fantastic sign that Las Vegas and The Strip are poised for great things moving forward in 2013 and beyond," Republican Governor Brian Sandoval said. "The Genting Group and Resorts World Las Vegas will bring several thousand new jobs to our State, and will help us in keeping our economic resurgence on the right path towards success. I'd like to welcome Genting to the great state of Nevada, and we all look forward to the ground breaking of this new dynamic project."

Echelon sits on Las Vegas Boulevard, north of Spring Mountain Road. For years, the land was the site of the Stardust Hotel and Casino, which Boyd Gaming imploded in 2007. Boyd Gaming halted construction on Echelon in 2008.
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Posted this under the US Market thread... reposting it here ANYONE interested in the US shouldn't get down about Single family opportunities closing and just ignore the US.

Find a CCIM in your favourite market (Commercial GURU) and start learning.

Okay... here is the thing about the US market.... you have to learn what is FABULOUS about it... you can bet on cycles, you can ALWAYS play the game and they are slow to see the gaps.

SFR... Single family is dead....has been for 6 months to all intents for the Oz investor....(well unless you have squillions and spending 110k+ on a single property in cash (in Vegas and 80k+ in ATL) is chickenfeed and you are only looking for a net of 5-6% yield). If you are Oz and in the market already, you are trying to decide whether to hold or sell at this point.... If you are lucky, you may be able to leverage your existing SFR to roll into oher investments and then yes you would keep buying but that is it.... Leave it to US investors who can buy a 150 k house with only 30k down and a 4% loan to negate the risk while they land bank. Trust me, at that level, your mortgage is so ridiculously low a US investor can slaughter yield to guarantee occupancy and choice tenants. if you are 100% cash (which you have to be without hard cash borrowing), you dont have that luxury...... SFR made sense for a very very brief period of time.... And yes, it was fabulous but now? Move on. To play SFR as an all cash buyer you NEEDED to have a minimum 18% in ATL and 14% in a desert environment such as Vegas for it to even begin to make sense...and I stopped even thinking about buying below that or recommending anyone else did.. It may may may make sense for the rare and odd reason but I literally need to triple and quadruple cross examine that rationale.

Look it isn't as sexy as owning a house outright but before SFR was commercial, now there is commercial again and every INCH of me is as excited on this as I was for SFR.... take it for what it is worth...... - and it is a LOT cheaper entry point than 100k! For the Oz investor, if nothing else it gives you access to leveraged money and, if you aren't already playing the States market, a way to have a foot in the door to what is still in my mind the best real estate market.

Yesterday at the Vegas auctions, there were 3 houses only up for bid. Can you imagine the feeding frenzy? Laughable... And people are still spruiking SFR trying to put a markup on them as middle men... The only properties being sold in the open market are short sales and flips.... You do NOT need a middle person for them! Or "securing" properties - because quite frankly a) they can't and b) they are going to end up buying crappy houses because they desperately want to have ANY inventory to spruik to you...... And c) flipped houses are move in ready.... What are you paying anything for?

As a US FINANCED investor in SFR in Vegas you would NEVER consider buying below a 9% math index.....

(Rent x 11 months)/ purchase price > 9%

It is LITERALLY pennies away from a full market correction... Ie it is why construction is already starting up across the board.... Right now, we are months away in a lot of areas where it is cheaper to buy a plot of land and build on it (something I am personally sourcing now in my own investing strategy)

HOWEVER.... You may just get ahead of the commercial boom...so start wrapping your head around it. Just like single family, it is no harder to buy in the US than it is in Oz.....just for heavens sake skip the spruikers!!! dont even think of dealing with anyone short of a commercial expert broker. I would start researching the market of your choice. Look to brokers with significant experience in syndicating, construction etc. it took me 6 months to find the guru in my market.

I wrote this to my guys...

Commercial.. simplified the process is...
1) buy property (probably with cash... Pool funds as needs be - which means that you actually need far less $$ to get in) OR get vendor financing. (Again, much simpler)
2) turn property around ... Increase rents, decrease vacancies
3) Refinance, pull majority of investor cash out ..yield gets whacked but you have your initial investment out so ...
4) sell about year 5 - 7 and move on

Financing available and as many options as excite you... But just make sure you find someone REALLY clued into your market who can handle your interests
 
Banking usa mobile cheque deposits

Some of you have already used this feature but... For those of you who haven’t...

Bank of America has done this for a while but now Wells Fargo do too. This is quite big if you get a cheque sent to you in Oz and need to deposit it.

Download the application from iTunes on your iPhone or iPad and simply take a photo of the front and back of the cheque and you can deposit directly into your account. Keep the cheque until you see it deposited and funds are cleared then just shred and say a little prayrer for real Bpay hitting the US. It is at least a STEP in the right direction.
 
US Small minuscule slow step to Bpay

Great article MTR...

I just logged into my BofA to get the following announcement – apparently we can all sign up and can now transfer from our personal accounts to personal or business accounts for either Wells Fargo, JP Morgan or Chase – just using an email address. Call my cynical and I am sure you still can’t transfer more than a miniscule amount but this may be a step in the right direction – there is NOTHING more frustrating than walking/posting cheques to people......

Suffice to say I have signed up – and no, I couldn’t read if there were charges but I would be pleasantly shocked if there isn’t.....

Oh.... allow 3 days for funds from another institution....

HOWEVER - if you are waiting for $$ back from someone, this could be a good way - couple that with the mobile checking and dear heavens, we are just leaping towards modern technology over here......
 
Hi Aus
I know someone who is in Atlanta at the moment and he mentioned the market has changed dramatically, they are actually now advertising new builds. The prices keep rising, not quite there yet, I am expecting to pull the pin in 12-18 months and doubling my money. I think CGT in US is 15%.

I have no intension of holding any of these properties as I can then leverage my money in Australia.

Its been a very interesting experience, the US banking system, property managers, tenants, so very different from how we operate in Australia.

MTR
 
I think the positivity in the US is a leading indicator for Oz, did you see their new car sales numbers?

Only been keeping tabs on housing market and job market which is also improving.

I noticed changes on my second trip to Atlanta, first trip Forelcosure Sale Signs on front lawns practially every third house, on my next visit very few foreclosure signs, that was in June 2012.

Property market pretty much has gone from strength to strength, it has even surprised me how quickly it is moving, I expected at least 5-7 years for recovery. I started buying and within 6 months the stock I wanted dried up as the returns were no longer achievable.
 
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For giggles - these are LIVE - ATL properties above the I20 in Atlanta - as in EVERYTHING above the I20 highway (which dissects Atlanta east west) that is under 120k and over I think 70k, 4 bedrooms plus and within an age group you would want to look at....

If you like any of these properties you would be contacting the listing agent and making a full cash bid and standing a good chance (check close to shops and schools).

This is simply to show what the market is doing - seriously???!!!! in a city of 5.8 million there are 20 live properties over 4 bedrooms that meet the above criteria?? This is a market that has SHIFTED........

Welcome to a world where the US can borrow again - if you bought in already without being screwed on the purchase?? Welcome to the world where you can seriously make money on flips.



Hi Emma
would be keen on any updates regarding Atlanta market?

I see the Aus$ starting to fall back now, am hoping it goes back to traditional levels as I want to bring my money back home.

Thanks
MTR
 
In hindsight it's easy to say we should have seen this coming. I only bought 4 properties in Atlanta and kicking myself moving so slowly. Prices are rising as expected, au dollar falling as expected and rental returns high as planned.

I would have to think there are still opportunities in other cities. I'm selling a substantial asset in Sydney to look for more opportunities in the US and possibly EU.
 
In hindsight it's easy to say we should have seen this coming. I only bought 4 properties in Atlanta and kicking myself moving so slowly. Prices are rising as expected, au dollar falling as expected and rental returns high as planned.

I would have to think there are still opportunities in other cities. I'm selling a substantial asset in Sydney to look for more opportunities in the US and possibly EU.

Hi Oscar
I purchased 8 but stopped after this cos the prices started to rise very quickly and the yield was not as attractive vs risk. My plan has always been to wait till the houses go back to traditional level in 2003 prior to their boom which should double my money and hopefully the Au$ will also go back to traditional levels.

I think Arizona was a higher entry and has been the stellar performer, but Atlanta is certainly the hot spot at the moment, but as you know too much competition. I think sometimes there are 20 offers on the table for 1 property.

I think it may be now a race against time, if the Au$ does go back to traditional levels 85-90 then it may not be a good idea to jump in as you may be paying too much due to exchange rate.

My experience in the Atlanta market has been overall very good, have created a great income stream, however the tenants/houses high maintenance. I don't think I can do another flight to Atlanta, nearly killed me last time.

Cheers, MTR
 
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