What's your "Jonesey"?

Jonseying may be a good thing. Imagine if no one wanted to keep up with Jones. There would be no improvements, no economic activity and our society would collapse. No desire to work. Just everyone content to meditate in a commune eating grass and wearing loincloths.

You think???
Be better if one just focused on their own personal goals, aspirations and dreams. Why follow someone else, I don't think this mind set makes people happy, just adds another layer of stress.
 
You think???
Be better if one just focused on their own personal goals, aspirations and dreams. Why follow someone else, I don't think this mind set makes people happy, just adds another layer of stress.

C'mon MTR. Your investment success was all your idea and not at all inspired by reading and learning from someone else along the way. You may not have had any inclination to keep up with the Jones', but some of their methods would have made you think about which direction to go or not go moving forward.
 
Kids. My brother and my two sisters all have multiple kids and me and my wife haven't been able to have any yet (been about a year of trying).

Seeing them all with their kids definitely makes me very envious.

The sucky thing is it's not like I'm envious of something like a boat or a flash car, you can't go down to the store and buy kids.

Anyway my Jones'ing is pretty depressing so it's probably a bit of a downer for this thread.

Oh and I also want a swim spa! My parents and brother have awesome pools, would love one of those too :p
 
C'mon MTR. Your investment success was all your idea and not at all inspired by reading and learning from someone else along the way. You may not have had any inclination to keep up with the Jones', but some of their methods would have made you think about which direction to go or not go moving forward.

Absolutely, of course have been inspired by many and this is why we all get onto this forum, its one of many educational tools specific to property investing. Learning various strategies to achieve financial freedom has nothing whatsoever to do with my personal goals or keeping up with the Joneses IMO.

This is the definition
"Keeping up with the Joneses" is an idiom in many parts of the English-speaking world referring to the comparison to one's neighbour as a benchmark for social class or the accumulation of material goods. To fail to "keep up with the Joneses" is perceived as demonstrating socio-economic or cultural inferiority.
 
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This is the definition
"Keeping up with the Joneses" is an idiom in many parts of the English-speaking world referring to the comparison to one's neighbour as a benchmark for social class or the accumulation of material goods. To fail to "keep up with the Joneses" is perceived as demonstrating socio-economic or cultural inferiority.

I just realised I definitely need to keep up with the GuitarJoneses.

I have an Ibanez (albeit the cheapest one ever made), but feel the need to also have in my collection a US Strat and a Gibson, as well as some of the better Ibanez axes. (My wife will not understand why one needs 3-4 guitars when you can only play one at a time but.........)

Also, my Roland Cube 20x is nice for carting around, but a "real" thing like a Mesa/Boogie or a Hughes & kettner (use the blue glow as a nightlite.... :D )....

I just bought an Artist electric acoustic - insanely good for the price, but if I was fronting up to some other muso's, much rather have a Takamine in my hand :cool:

The Y-man
 
mmm guitars can definitely be Jonesey.

Last big property boom, round about 2002-3, is when we saw the outbreak of 4WDs.
How many of us drive a 4bie to the supermarket?
Another poll?
 
One of my more recent Jonesey observations is the whole BIKE thing now.

It has exploded into a major pastime (good thing too!) with loads and loads more cyclists on the roads each year.

What makes me giggle though is firstly; the attire Jonesey, and of course; the cost of the bike Jonesey....gotta look like Lance Armstrong to go for a lazy ride and stop for a latte; hysterical.

I was riding early mornings a while ago with a group of blokes (my bike is an old Hybrid clunker and very slow. But it gives you a great workout - makes you work hard, so I like it).

So, these blokes invited me to come with them - an hour or so for the total ride.

And of course; I was left totally and absolutely for dead (partly due to lack of fitness compared to them) and no doubt due to my dinosaur bike as I found out the next ride..

So, my mate lent me his old clunker (a really nice and very light racing bike) because he now has a better one than this, and he felt sorry for me getting murdered.

The difference was amazing - I was able to keep up pretty much right to the end - compared to easily a mile or so behind on mine.

So, we continued like this for a while, and I got to witness the Jonesey in full swing over a couple of months.

There about 12 blokes in this group, and it seemed that every other week someone was turning up with a new, lighter more wizz-bang bike which seemed to be a better one than everyone elses's of course, and cheaper too, of course..."got the deal of the century, boys!!" :rolleyes:

I eventually had to give back the borrowed bike because my mate sold it, and I was left with my old Hybrid clunker - which I still have. :eek:
 
Yep, lots of posers in the bike community.
That's what has killed lots of golf clubs, BV. Not too many years ago those blokes would have been playing golf on the weekends. Now they are tooling around on bikes costing $5-10,000.
 
That's what has killed lots of golf clubs, BV. Not too many years ago those blokes would have been playing golf on the weekends. Now they are tooling around on bikes costing $5-10,000.
$10k for a bike is hysterical.

My clunker still gets there, but waay slower.

I guess it depends what you are out there for; I'm out there for some exercise in the fresh air, and I don't really care how far I travel overall, so the speed is not too relevant to me. I can ride up Arthur's Seat road to the top, and around through Red Hill and back home in less time than the ride with those blokes along the flat roads in the morning, and work harder.

I don't need to spend $10k for that purpose - or any money at all - other than to keep up with Jonesesy on his kevlar number....I guess I could upgrade the bike shorts and helmet.

Yep; a lot of folks were finding the $2k (or more) Golf Membership cost hard to wear when they weren't playing a lot.

Golf on a weekend is easily a 5 hour timeframe from leave home to return home for most people. Many folks can't justify that much money and/or time away from the family these days, so they opt for casual pay-as-you-go greenfees at various higher-end Public Courses instead.

Whereas, the bike ride can be over and done in whatever time you want, and unless you keep renewing the bike, the cost can be less overall than the Golf Membership each year.

By the way; Jonesey is alive and well in the golf equipment world too!

It's amazing how many high handicap golfers spend a couple of grand or more on golf clubs, where a basic $400 set will be more than adequate for their level of skill at that time.
 
I dislike buying branded items for the sake of the brand

but I do have a softspot for a particular type of Oakley Sunglasses,

they are ridiculously expensive.........and for a significant celeberation , I went and bought them in all different colours

Is this keeping up with the jonesy?? never thought it to be honest
 
I have a mountain bike I bought 8 years ago that cost me $700 as a run out model (regular price was $1100). It is light, reliable, has gearing that suits the riding I do and has hydraulic disc brakes that mean it can stop on a dime.

It's great to ride and still looks new.

If you were a pro athlete then having a $10k bike might be worth it. But for a weekend warrior like myself, I doubt I could even tell the difference.
 
By the way; Jonesey is alive and well in the golf equipment world too!

Might be quite common in all sports and hobby endeavours which involves showing up in front of your peers.....

I can think immediately of

- Tennis - I used to struggle with my expensive Head racquet even though my oversize $60 Emrik was so much easier to use.

- Badminton - got to admit, a good racquet makes a huge difference (with a tension that would deform aluminium frames). One sport where you'll get injured using an old fashioned toy thing.

- Fishing - I know people who go on and on about their carbon fibre reinforced this that and the other with non-corrodable gold plated whatsit etc etc etc

The Y-man
 
I know a guy who works in a bike shop and recently custom made a $10k (i think) bike for an australian living in the middle east who wanted to take up bike riding. The owner of the bike then flew here to pick it up. The bike maker said its a better bike than even the professionals have.
 
Might be quite common in all sports and hobby endeavours which involves showing up in front of your peers.....
I used to do a reverse-Jonesey when we lived in the USA in terms of Golf..as many might know; I used to be in the Golf industry and taught the game for almost 30 years.

I got to play golf 4 days every week during the last 12 months because my wife was working 4 x 10 hours shifts and our son was in school...heaven for me...nothing to do until school pick-up time!

I'd turn up to the local public course and get the ProShop staff to book me in with anyone that needed an extra player...

Anyway; I didn't want to advertise my vocation and/or level of skill at all because it tended to end up meeting a doctor at a party..."Doc; I've had this pain in my elbow..." :rolleyes:

10 year old well-worn clubs in an almost as old carry bag - but in decent condition, and dressed down to help add to the incognito attempt.

I also used to tell folks I was a school teacher - this usually had the desired result of them not badgering me about my job.

It was amusing watching folks trying to get their brain around this vision of a bloke in shorts, runners, tee-shirt, daggy clubs; and shooting 72...:D

Who's done a "reverse-Jonesey"?
 
I have 4x bikes all circa $10k. :eek:

Each has its specialist application:

1. Time Trial bike.
2. Road Racing Bike
3. Training Road Racing bike (most expensive, but I spend most of my time on it)
4. Specialist Climbing bike (used for my WR and the next one Im planning).

Its very easy to spent $10k on a bike. Then you have all the accessories needed to go with it. Things like power meters (no change from $1500), wheels ($2-$4k dependant on application), shoes ($400 for decent set), computer/HRM (some built in power meter, but separate add $400 for decent), helmet, sunnies, clothing ($400 for decent set bibs/jersey/socks) and so on.

Then you need consumables. Tyres and tubes, new chain every 4 weeks, new clusters every 3 months or specialist sizing clusters (for mountain climbing etc).

Then I have a Track bike, and a few older bikes not used anymore, plus a zillion parts and wheels etc.

I doubt an Aussie made custom is 'better than the professionals ride'. The best customs from Australia are Teshner, Llewellyn and to a degree Evolution - and they don't have anything on Specialized/Giant/Colnago/Willier/Ridley et al.

Do I keep up with the Joneses? No, because I am Mr. Jones! ;)


pinkboy
 
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