When rules need to be broken

Shaking my head at the absurdity of this. Just who do we want in Australia!


This certainly doesn't smell good.

He is good enough to operate but just because he didn't pass a test (that even in the 2nd story Dr Peter Stewart said it would be difficult to sit now) home he goes.


http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2010/05/19/eye-surgeon-kicked-out-country/

and then


http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2010/05/19/surgery-waiting-list-blow-out/

Does anyone have some clout in this area?

I should add that I have a vested interest in this story. I know these wonderful people.

Sunshine
 
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The Dr. is not recognized because he has not completed the requirements (examination) and consequently can't be insured, and he's had ample chance to rectify this with time to prepare and sit the examination??

Regardless of how good he might be, people need to understand that it's mandatory for many professionals to be accredited and be allowed to practice via this kind of examination.

Exemptions can't be made because the person simply doesn't want to go through the required process, regardless of how good he is or how short a region is of Drs.

My personal experience is they're not tight enough with the criteria as it is, and a read of some of the coroners findings makes one wonder how some Drs. have passed these examinations.

I've heard various reasons why Drs. don't like practicing in Queensland although it's mostly FNQ that they don't like.
 
I understand your arguement Weg. What concerns me the most though, is that the carrot was dangled for him to come to Australia. He gets here operates for 3 years without supervision and then tough luck you didn't pass the exam (without any explanation on why or how both times) you are not qualified, so out you go.

I don't get that. He was good enough but now not. Shouldn't they be deemed suitably qualified BEFORE getting near a patient?

My understanding is that the test is based on being a GP and especially aimed at those who have recently graduated, not particularly for his Specialist field.

I also understand that in some Specialist fields interviews and supervision are enough to get qualified. Apparently not with RANSCO.

It does look like the "old boys network" looking out for themselves. With no surgeons in the public sector, patients will have no option but visit Private Practices at $4000 a pop for cataract surgery or have no vision.

Sunshine
 
I think when you are asked twice to sit the written test and don't, then there's not much you can complain about if they say "sorry, you need to leave".

There is also the issue of the unsupervised hours he has worked, whereas he is supposed to have x amount of supervised hours.

However, in this case where he has been here for a while and done a lot of good work apparently, then the authorities should look at providing him with a specific date to sit the written test, and if he misses that one, then seeyalaida.
 
The cause has been taken up by Health Minister Paul Lucas


http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.a...hts-on-doctor-mark-de-wet-caloundra-hospital/

Health Minister Paul Lucas said yesterday he was “very concerned” that Dr de Wet’s registration had been refused by RANZCO.

“But this is a decision of the college ... not Queensland Health,” he said.

“I have asked Queensland Health to see whether there is any further assistance they can provide to Dr de Wet in further assessment.”
and

“Australia has a long history of unfair treatment of international medical graduates,” the Canadian-trained doctor said.

“The role of colleges in assessing IMG specialist qualifications has been a major source of IMG exploitation and abuse.

“This has significantly deterred the recruitment of critically needed, well qualified IMG specialists.”

Dr Douglas said she had repeatedly asked for a review of the current specialist accreditation system in view of these ongoing problems.

“I am planning to raise the issue again in Federal Parliament,” she said.

Regardless of the outcome for the de Wets, there are issues that need to be raised.

Sunshine
 
I think when you are asked twice to sit the written test and don't, then there's not much you can complain about if they say "sorry, you need to leave".

He failed the written test twice. He was just told he didn't pass. Nothing more was forthcoming. The test was not on his specialised field.

My husband is an Engineer and he has said that to pass his exams now would be a struggle, would that make him now not qualified as an Engineer?

It is interesting hearing other people's thoughts about the situation.

Sunshine
 
It does look like the "old boys network" looking out for themselves. With no surgeons in the public sector, patients will have no option but visit Private Practices at $4000 a pop for cataract surgery or have no vision.

Sunshine
That's the problem with that old school network,they look after their own
it has always been that way,but i guess they would be worried in several ways not all the Taxi drivers you see working the night shift are dumbos
the last three taxi rides i had were all Indian Doctors who came into Australia through NZ ,such wasted talent fully trained and wanting to work,..willair..
 
My personal experience is they're not tight enough with the criteria as it is, and a read of some of the coroners findings makes one wonder how some Drs. have passed these examinations.

I've heard various reasons why Drs. don't like practicing in Queensland although it's mostly FNQ that they don't like.

Probably not a question for a public forum, so I will make it a rhetorical one, in your experience do the Drs who studied and became qualifed in Aus make LESS mistakes from those who studied abroad?

I wonder if there has been a study on that?

Sunshine
 
I've found a much larger percentage of overseas Drs. to local Drs. making mistakes or bad decisions.

Personality wise many of these are lovely people and fortunately because of this they're humble enough to ask questions when they're unsure of what they're doing.

It's not a nationality thing because those of the same race that study here appear to function as well as Australians.

Having said that I wouldn't have put South African trained Drs. in the same class as some from other countries.

willair, I think there is a reason why some may be driving taxis.
 
It states he needs to be working full time to stay in the country on his Visa. Maybe the hospital can give him a full time cleaners job until he passes the required tests etc ?

Cheers

Mick
 
My husband is an Engineer and he has said that to pass his exams now would be a struggle, would that make him now not qualified as an Engineer?

Obviously not. He might have been a qualified engineer when he passed the exams, but he obviously lost his qualification now if he cannot pass it.
 
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