Why Abbott could lose the ‘unloseable’ election

If you call providing much needed services & infrastructure (and not selling govt. assets) to the QLD people that had been neglected by the Nats/Liberals.

Not to mention years and years of corruption and shady deals with private developers, siphoning off the peoples money under the Bjelke Petersen's conservative govt, a party that goes till 6am, then you'd be correct.

But - again - you are wrong. Not only wrong but your overly melodramatic analogies do you no credit at all.

The lady doth protest too much and all that.......


http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/sell-more-assets-costello-recommends-20120615-20e3f.html
 
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Hello and Goodbye

I am going to step back from these political threads for a while because there never seems to any consensus or willingness to agree on facts, left or right. Hence why bother putting opinions.

But I will close on this personal view, I think the Australian People are not stupid. "Spin Doctor Experts" say we are but we are not. The silent majority know you cannot live beyond your means and know when the Goverment has maxed out the credit card (as Dazz put, it) be it Libs or Labor.

In the end, Election, matter not Polls which can be manipulated so much they are a joke. NT spoke on the weekend.

Lastly, in five weeks I am off to France for a holiday and will report back on the mood re EU crisis. This is what I fear for our Country because , without mining, we would be there IMO. We are a lot less secure than we would like to believe we are.

I personally don't care if LIbs, Greens, Sex Party, CLP, DLP or Labor are in charge as long as there is competence and honesty. And, as I said, earlier , think the majority of Aussies are the same.

Au Revoir, Peter
 
:rolleyes:
Also, what is it that you "note" with regard to the "official" apology from the Australian. Seems Julia's diversion nonsense has worked on some after all. How dare they say trust fund in error instead of slush fund:rolleyes:

because the story was wrong and continues to be wrong, whenever they publish it

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/pm-slams-news-smear-campaign-20120823-24p14.html

quote: ''It is the third time since 2007 the newspaper has published, and been forced to retract, false allegations about Ms Gillard's conduct at Slater & Gordon.''

Unprofessional. Inaccurate. Malicious.

Pardon me, but I found that interesting :rolleyes:. Interesting that is. Interesting. Read into it whatever you like.

(don't let your bias hit you in the backside as you depart ...)
 
Ive tried to get some truth in this Gillard/S&G debate on here to no avail. The inconvenient truth just doesnt sit well with the Liberal party and its supporters.

:rolleyes:

because the story was wrong and continues to be wrong, whenever they publish it

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/pm-slams-news-smear-campaign-20120823-24p14.html

quote: ''It is the third time since 2007 the newspaper has published, and been forced to retract, false allegations about Ms Gillard's conduct at Slater & Gordon.''

Unprofessional. Inaccurate. Malicious.

Pardon me, but I found that interesting :rolleyes:. Interesting that is. Interesting. Read into it whatever you like.

(don't let your bias hit you in the backside as you depart ...)
 
Add to this Keith Lacy's (Chairman of Macarthur coal) interview yesterday on Andrew Bolt's show.

The headline of the story was about; "Is the mining boom over?" or words to that effect.

In a nutshell; the industry will be regulated to oblivion and seriously deter O/S and local investment; rising costs, regulations and delays combined with lower productivity and profits....

Yes, I've seen some of the protestors on shows like Four Corners. They would probably look for any technicality to hold up development that threatens their quality of life.
It's probably the NIMBY effect.
Some farmers organise protests about hydraulic fracking because they are wary of it's effect on the aquifers that they rely on.
Horse stud and vineyard owners complaining about coal mines enroaching on their lives, with their bright light, dust and loss of land.
People protest about windfarms because they don't like the low frewuency noise so close to their homes.
Homeowners complain when some multistory development is allowed in an area where it was previously banned because they don't want to end up in the shade.
No wonder miners are turning to places like Africa to invest their capital.
Anyhow IMHO we need to strike a balance as I don't think we should allow uncontrolled development.
 
I personally don't care if LIbs, Greens, Sex Party, CLP, DLP or Labor are in charge as long as there is competence and honesty. And, as I said, earlier , think the majority of Aussies are the same.
Aussies work a damn sight harder than the elite would have us believe and, as Peter says, we are smarter than the socialists would have us believe.

We are certainly smarter than the Americans who still haven't learnt that they should ask, "Where is the money coming from?" I think the libs may have started that after the excesses of Whitlam but there is a significant proportion of swinging votors who still ask that of BOTH sides of politics.

It was this discipline which we enforced on governments since then that got us through the GFC, not labor handouts. It is why we Queenslanders are still behind Newman. We are not Greeks.
 
It is why we Queenslanders are still behind Newman.

Agreed Sunfish. The vast vast majority of Qlders utterly rejected Labor's idea of Govt and management, and turfed them out on their ear.

Mismanagement of the economy and a massive unsustainable spending spree weren't the only reasons, but probably the prime reasons.

That was only in March, less than 6 months ago.

These silly little irrelevant "polls" that the newspapers are taking have no bearing or weight at all.

The people have spoken and wish for things to be put right. Let them go to it.

Can anyone answer how much dead interest they are paying on the $ 65 Billion of Labor debt ?? I imagine it would be close to $ 4 billion per annum at a guess....that's alot of mullah that could otherwise be spent on the community that now cannot.

I'd also like to know whether Qld Labor for the last 20 years have been paying the interest bill on their rising debt, or did Labor simply compound the bill and let the debt grow bigger and bigger ??

NB. : I note the Qld Treasurer has stated that they will not sell public assets without going back to the people for their approval at the next election. I like the sound of that.
 
From the ABC link, 'Bad News for Campbell' Galaxy poll.

The LNP has dropped from 54 per cent to 48 per cent on their primary vote. It still has a 60-40 [two-party] lead over the ALP.

'Bad news' is relative, I guess...
 
These silly little irrelevant "polls" that the newspapers are taking have no bearing or weight at all.
Where do they conduct these bloody polls?

I've lived all over the friggin' place and never encountered one fool with a clipboard yet in 50 odd years.

Just lucky. :D
 
:rolleyes:

because the story was wrong and continues to be wrong, whenever they publish it

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/pm-slams-news-smear-campaign-20120823-24p14.html

quote: ''It is the third time since 2007 the newspaper has published, and been forced to retract, false allegations about Ms Gillard's conduct at Slater & Gordon.''

Unprofessional. Inaccurate. Malicious.

Pardon me, but I found that interesting :rolleyes:. Interesting that is. Interesting. Read into it whatever you like.

(don't let your bias hit you in the backside as you depart ...)

Trust fund/slush fund. Minor. Immaterial. Inconsequential. An interesting diversion that has clearly worked on some.
 
Public servants [including militant teachers] wouldn't have voted for Newman anyway. He can't "lose" their vote.

It's a universal law that a government will lose seats after such a landslide. What are you trying to say? That the ABC and Fairfax are pro-labor?
 
Where do they conduct these bloody polls?

I've lived all over the friggin' place and never encountered one fool with a clipboard yet in 50 odd years.

Just lucky. :D

I think they usually do it by phone. Depends on the company doing the poll.

This one, for example, was only 800 people.
 
Hello and Goodbye

I am going to step back from these political threads for a while because there never seems to any consensus or willingness to agree on facts, left or right. Hence why bother putting opinions.
But putting opinions (and using others' to support your own post - like me :D) puts blood in the water, and you can watch the frenzy from the safety of the boat.

It's great.

Where's me ladle?
 
I know it isn't kosher to mention that muck raking misogynist Larry Pickering but today's revelation in pickeringpost is new [to me at least] and damning and not yet addressed by Julia.

Again, it is on the public record.
 
:rolleyes:

because the story was wrong and continues to be wrong, whenever they publish it

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/pm-slams-news-smear-campaign-20120823-24p14.html

quote: ''It is the third time since 2007 the newspaper has published, and been forced to retract, false allegations about Ms Gillard's conduct at Slater & Gordon.''

Unprofessional. Inaccurate. Malicious.

Pardon me, but I found that interesting :rolleyes:. Interesting that is. Interesting. Read into it whatever you like.

(don't let your bias hit you in the backside as you depart ...)
Even Jonathan Holmes on media watch agrees with the blindingly obvious that the correction was inconsequential and that Gillard attempted to use it to divert attention from the rest of the story. Jonathan Holmes of all people! Even he didn't buy it!!!
 
The last error was calling the 'slush' fund, a trust fund, as someone previously stated.

The error previous to that was when The Australian stated she lived with Wilson when infact she retained her own home during the 4 year relationship.

She did not dispute any other of the printed information because, as she stated, it was all previously 'on the public record' - it did occur.

She did however capitalize on peoples ignorance in regards to what was really said and printed against the facts, and used the pulling of a story and apologies as part of the impression she wanted to create, which was that of a victim of a malicious campaign.

If it was Abbott who had been embroiled in this I'm sure he would have copped the same.
 
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