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I'm not petitioning to do anything. I don't want speed limits at artificially low levels - I prefer open road speed limits to be at reasonable levels in light of the realities of kangaroos, single lanes (etc etc) so I'm very happy for them to be left as they are. Speed limits are one of the...

Once we have eliminated all the causes like kangaroos and other wildlife, rubbish vehicles, bad drivers, poor visibility, etc etc etc from our roads, then I'm happy to increase speed limits. But until that day... limiting speed will result in fewer deaths and crippling injuries than increasing...

Elsewhere you acknowledge that speed increases the risk of fatality from accidents so even if the risk of accidents wasn't increased with higher speed limits, there would still be more deaths from the same number of accidents. There would also be a similar increase in the number of people...

Nice. Of course the enforcement of speed limits isn't the only factor (who ever said it is? that's a straw man argument if ever I saw one) but it is clearly one of the factors. Nothing is ever so black and white out in the real world. We need to work on all the factors if we want to continue...

Were you driving in the 70s and 80s? Law enforcement was nowhere near the level it is today, with radar / laser guns, cameras, fully equipped patrol cars out there all the time etc etc etc As to your first paragraph, it makes no sense to me. The figures are a death rate per 100,000 people so...

I agree but a Landcruiser ute still has a terrible stopping distance and they would get the same speed limit. There are plenty of cars still being sold that don't enjoy anywhere near such performance, despite the presence of disk brakes and radial tyres. But that is almost beside the point...

"Brigade" is such a respectful label. I hope it makes you feel better using it. BTW this is exactly the problem with perception. You can't defeat the laws of physics with radial tyres and disk brakes. A vehicle travelling twice as fast has four times the kinetic energy and there is a...

It's a fair point Ausprop. I guess my thinking behind saying it is that the current road toll is too high rather than acceptably low and I'm not at all convinced that raising the speed limit will reduce it, quite the reverse in fact. But yes, you have to stop somewhere and it does come down...

This is the problem with this subject. Some of us have very close experience with it and that will always colour our perceptions of what we believe to be important. I can remember back in the day having a very similar discussion with a lovely young 21yo lady from the country who thought speed...

Homer Simpson on reducing the national speed limit: "Sure, it will save a few lives, but millions will be late!" :) A few points: - The vast majority of Australian rural roads are single lane - Kangaroos are everywhere outside the capitals, particularly at night when there is less...