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spot on, Palmer has got some quite good policies, but there is no way i am going to allow my senate vote to be indirectly given to the greens. So again its the libs. Given that i live in the seat of Melbourne, it will probably be indirectly preferenced back to labour, but better labour than...

yes I totally agree with your logic, I even donated to the Victoria branch. But my vote wont be going there because of this.

a party that is not even organised sufficiently to get their lodgements in on time, is one that doesn't deserve my vote. How much more complicated will running Australia be.

because of the way senate seats work, it probably won't make a hoot of difference if I vote liberal in the senate. Some interesting links: http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2013/guide/svic/ Which shows historical figures, notice the rise in both the greens and 'other' parties...

what 50+ of them, too high a risk of lodging an informal vote. Voting for the lower house is easy, just a few numbers, not so for the senate

Trying to figure out who to vote for in the senate? Google how voting in the senate differs from voting for the house of representatives. I was going to vote for the LDP in the senate but they stuffed up in Vic and failed to get their electoral form in on time. So my vote will be going...