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In the beginning it may not be a lack of ambition. However as they progress they will begin to come up against more and more issues (walls) that may prevent or inhibit from progressing further. This is the vital time that if they are not truly committed to their 'reason' for investing in the...

Yes the number of investors that have more than 3 properties really drops off. (Less than 1% of total investors are the figures I've seen). IMHO these are the serious real investors who are investing towards the goal of total financial independence.

Yes fear and greed emotions drive the markets - stock & property. The stock market is more affected than the property markets due to liquidity factors where as the time required to complete a property transaction can create a dampening effect on emotion.

You seem to be a very confused turk - thats my benchmark, get your own lol ;). Like I said everyones perception in most things in life can be different. Whats reality for one person can not be so for some one else as the subconscious mind cant differentiate between the two. It simply accepts...

Pete, in generalised terms, the owner occupiers are the emotional majority. I dont term investors with a couple IPs at best in the investors category. I guess as in most things it all comes down to one's own perspective.

Supply & demand for sure...yeah your missing my point - that post #63 is in relation to multiple IP investors (as per post 1).

Cool, now read post #9.

See post #1 and title of this thread you've posted in.

So you think Investors are to blame for first home owners being priced out?

Exactly, using your example... so it's not investors with multiple properties who are the ones to blame for driving up prices out of reach for the first home owners.

Show me how property investors are the ones to blame for driving suburb's prices up :confused:

I dont know where you are getting your data but I'd like to know of suburbs where 35% are investors.

Can you describe how investors are a major component when they are in the minority :confused:

Yes but not with property because investors aren't the emotional driven majority.

I think tele is talking about what drives property NOT the share market. 'Investors' dont drive the property markets. Its the 'owner occupiers' that do.

Bill Zheng at his seminar in Perth last night quoted "1 in 1000" people purchase & hold 4 IP's or more. Thats 0.1% of the population!

What these whingers fail to realise is the portion of multiple property holders is only an extremely small percentage (<2%) of the overall PPOR demand.

I have actually heard this coming out of peoples mouths before , but this morning on the Real Estate program thats broadcast on the radio I heard a caller saying it again. The reason why all the proposed first home owners and others cant afford to buy a property is because of "Property...