CBA will not recognise the first home buyers grant of $14,000 for an existing home an

From todays Crikey sorry, no link

Banks call time on first home buyer party

The Australian banks, led by the Commonwealth, are about to end the first home buyers' party, in a move that could also kick the chocks away from the only support for the weakening Australian economy.

From next Monday, the CBA will not recognise the first home buyers grant of $14,000 for an existing home and $21,9000 for a new home as proof of savings.

It will demand 3% savings over three months; In other words, it will require all first home buyers to have saved the 3% of the purchase price over three months leading up to the application.

The Commonwealth won't accept gifts or other forms of financial assistance from parents or relatives as proof of savings of 3%, if it hasn't been in an account for at least three months.

The bank revealed the change last month but home loan brokers and real estate agents said today that the condition that first home buyers had to save 3% for at least three months represented a significant tightening of the bank's criteria.


Given the comments from the Reserve Bank yesterday about the impact of the first home buyers surge on home building and real estate, the CBA's move appears not to have been fully appreciated by Canberra.

The maximum for a graduated saving on stamp duty in NSW is $600,000 (above that full stamp duty is paid). That means first home buyers must have 3% of that or $18,000 saved in an account for at least three months prior to the application being made.

The cut-off will be homes where the loan to valuation ratio is above 85%. That's a bit rich: if someone has, say, 12% of the value of the intended purchase, the CBA will treat them as if they


Unless intending buyers have that level of savings, all first home buyer lending will cease from the Commonwealth.

The Commonwealth is introducing this to slow the pace of applications: it has been swamped by the surge in first home buying interest. In the past month it has hired 110 new staff to help process the applications.

As it's the biggest home lender, housing finance will slow sharply, especially if other banks follow suit. They are waiting to see what happens. All banks are taking a tougher stand on credit checks and making sure the valuation of the house or land is OK. That is delaying transactions.

The CBA has already advised its various lending channels of the changes that will apply from next Monday, 23 March.

The move comes a day after the bank big noted itself by saying that it will offer repayment holidays for six to 12 months for people who lose their jobs: but interest would continue to accrue.

The CBA's attempt to put a cork on the boom in home lending won't go down well in Canberra with the Rudd Government where it has already guaranteed (for a fee) all loans and deposits, especially offshore funding, for three years.

At the same time, the credit crunch has destroyed the non bank lending sector: Aussie Home Loans is now 33% owned by the CBA, the NAB bought Wizard cheaply from GE and Rams is owned by Westpac and its rump is a poorly thought of shadow of itself.

Among the other banks, the ANZ hasn't gone after first home buyers in a big way: it has been refusing to do home loans above LVRs of 90%, and has lost market share. St George is still doing 100% home loans, but the applications and credit records have to be completely spotless. The NAB and Westpac are understood to be still accepting the home buyers grant as savings for new home loans.

And real estate agents and conveyancers say there's a slow rise in the level of second and third home buyers now in the market.

But all the growth and the rebound is coming from first home buyers, thanks to the boosts to the grants in the December stimulus package.

So great was the boost that in January, the share of first home buyers in housing finance approvals was the highest on record at 26.5%.

In the minutes of the March Reserve Bank Board meeting it was noted:

In a sign of increased demand for housing, patterns of housing finance indicated an increase in housing loan approvals of about 10 per cent over the past few months, partly spurred by the increased incentives for first home buyers to enter the market.


However, credit growth had remained low as borrowers had evidently taken advantage of the extra cash flows created by lower lending interest rates to increase debt repayments.


Further signs of an increased level of activity in the secondary housing market were significant rises in auction clearance rates in both Sydney and Melbourne in February, and a component of the Westpac-Melbourne Institute consumer sentiment survey indicated that current conditions were conducive to buying a dwelling.

The move by the CBA, especially if followed by the other banks, will take away one of the few growth options in the wider economy, especially for the strained building sector where thousands of people have already lost their jobs as commercial development has stopped

Dave
 
about time too.
How do we know someone has the ability to pay off a housing loan, unless we can see a consistant savings plan.
The govt grant is just that, a grant, it doesnt give any indication as to a borrowers ability to handle debt repayments.

Another benefit of the financial crisis is the reinstatement of sensible lending practices. Sure in the short term it will hurt marginal players, sure in the short term some people will scream its not fair, but i am in this for the long term, the last thing i want is a US style crash happening in australia
 
Yeah heard this a few weeks back.

So in real life sceanrio, my nephew who is looking to buy his first house for say $350k max:

- Needs to save $10,500 of his own money.
- Needs to show steady saving pattern over the last 3 months.

He ticks both those boxes, and still has the entire $18k/$25k FHOG coming to him as well.

No biggie really.
 
Reminder: 3% Genuine Savings

As from Monday 2 March 2009, a mandatory 3% genuine savings is required for all applications involving new borrowers where the LVR>85%. These customers are required to contribute a minimum 3% of the purchase price in the form of genuine savings (or equity) towards the proposed purchase/transaction

The genuine savings will need to be verified and may comprise of any of the following:
  • A demonstrated saving pattern established over a 3-month period
  • Gift – must be held in an account for a minimum of 3 months
  • Term deposit – must have been held for a minimum of 3 months
  • Cash – acceptable only if placed in an account for a minimum of 3 months
  • Shares – must have been held for a minimum of 3 months
Equity in existing property

Exclusions

  • First Home Owners Grant (FHOG)
  • Additional borrowed funds i.e. personal loan
  • Proposed sale of an asset (other than property) i.e. sale of car


This is straight from my CBA broker newsletter...
 
The rumpur mill had been going around for the last 2 mths or so, and the advice came out around 3 weeks ago.

Inevitable when you consider Genworths exposure

tarolf
 
Further signs of an increased level of activity in the secondary housing market were significant rises in auction clearance rates in both Sydney and Melbourne in February, and a component of the Westpac-Melbourne Institute consumer sentiment survey indicated that current conditions were conducive to buying a dwelling.

Interesting article Boat Boy. However the portion above seems to be misleading. The reason for the significant rises in auction clearance rates is because a significantly lower number of houses are being put up for auction.

See here:
http://www.news.com.au/business/money/story/0,28323,25191709-5013951,00.html

Taken from above link:

"In Sydney the auction clearance rate was 63 per cent, up from 47 per cent the same weekend last year. But the number of properties sold slumped from 229 last year to just 127 at the weekend.

In Melbourne the auction clearance rate remained steady - at 66 per cent - but the number of properties listed for sale crashed from 1265 the same weekend last year to just 396.

In Brisbane and Adelaide, markets dominated by private-treaty sales, the cupboard had almost been stripped bare, with clearance rates and property volumes both taking a dive.

In Adelaide only 25 properties were put up for auction compared with 108 for the corresponding weekend in 2008, and with eight auction results yet to be reported, 17 properties had already been passed in.

Only 38 properties were placed on the market in Brisbane compared with 115 for the same weekend last year.

Real Estate Institute of Victoria head Enzo Raimondo said it was the decline in properties available for sale that had driven the recovery in clearance rates. "We've seen a decrease in transactions right across the board," Mr Raimondo said."
 
Funny how life goes in circles

Oh yes just like back in the not so good old days:D In the early 80's you had to bank with your chosen mortgage provider/bank for two years before you reached the top of the pile. Your bank manager then called you in and told you how much the bank would "give" you on the home buyers rate of interest.

Our first home in lower templestowe in late 1985 we purchased for $85,000. We had a deposit of $35,000. The bank manager at Weatpac would only "give" us $40,000 at the preferred rate of 13.5%. The other $10,000 we had to take a second mortgage at 17%:eek: His reasoning was my soon to be wife would probably get pregnant:confused:

We were furious so I took a second and third job and paid out the $10,000 second mortgage in twelve months.
 
Interesting article Boat Boy. However the portion above seems to be misleading. The reason for the significant rises in auction clearance rates is because a significantly lower number of houses are being put up for auction.

See here:
http://www.news.com.au/business/money/story/0,28323,25191709-5013951,00.html

<snip>

Real Estate Institute of Victoria head Enzo Raimondo said it was the decline in properties available for sale that had driven the recovery in clearance rates. "We've seen a decrease in transactions right across the board," Mr Raimondo said."

HMMMmmm, if you were in the bear camp at hpcg you would probably be holding up the news.com link as proof of a property FAIL.

But hold on, the figures come from Enzo and apparently he has a vested interest and is a liar....DOH

and Crikey is an independent news source with less vested interest than news.com and Enzo, so that must mean that Crikey is correct:confused:

Dave
 
Boatboy, I am neither bull nor bear, I prefer to keep an open mind and look at all the facts. I was merely stating why auction clearance rates were up, which is something that was not explained in the Crikey article
 
The genuine savings will need to be verified and may comprise of any of the following:
  • A demonstrated saving pattern established over a 3-month period
  • Gift – must be held in an account for a minimum of 3 months
  • Term deposit – must have been held for a minimum of 3 months
  • Cash – acceptable only if placed in an account for a minimum of 3 months
  • Shares – must have been held for a minimum of 3 months
Equity in existing property

Exclusions

  • First Home Owners Grant (FHOG)
  • Additional borrowed funds i.e. personal loan
  • Proposed sale of an asset (other than property) i.e. sale of car

What a load of crock - 3 months does not demonstrate / reflect a culture of savings IMHO.

How about demonstrated savings plan over the last 12 months
Regular direct credits to second account
No drawings out of second account etc.
Credit card balance of zero or paid of in full every month.


Sheryn
 
3% min or even 5% would be preferable, in my opinion. There's still lots of parents helping out but this may put the brakes on if the money has to have been in an account for min 3mths.

There are many discentives to purchasing with too high a LVR, one of them being the high LMI costs involved. FHB's need to carefully consider the benefits of this vs saving a bigger deposit for longer, even in the current market. The first home saver scheme provides at least an incentive for some FHB's to purchase and though their money is tied up for at least 2 yrs (4 tax yrs) it's great practice for paying off mortgages.
 
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