Conspiracy theories

I have been reading a fair bit on conspiracy theories lately, after watching "Empire of the City" video.... interesting video on Illuminati etc.

I'm a bit confused though, repeatedly these types of NWO theories talk about a new "Socialist" government, one world currency, small group of people running the world and enslaving the rest of us etc. I don't believe everything I read, but I can see how there is something to what they say (eg. Empire of the city predicts world economic collapse.... easy to see how in the present climate we might move toward a single large bank to facilitate liquidity, saving the world economy but "fulfilling the evil bankster's plan to control the worlds money supply etc.".

Now what confuses me is that they describe the coming order as socialist.
To me, what most of these theories talk about is autocratic, technocratic, meritocratic, heriarchical, feudal, capitalistic and lots of other things which aren't necessarily desirable for the average punter, but not necessarily socialistic. Indeed, the main socialistic aspect would be any effort by the "big government" in providing for the people.

Granted such a system might involve lots of waiting in queues and a real loss of independance etc, but I wonder whether the use of this term is as a Code Word for "bad" for its predominantly American audience. I know as an Australian I'm glad to have many of our socialist institutions like health care and pension support, art grants and national parks.

It seems a key aspect of the American psyche that many oppose "big government", anything which is beyond the individual which controls or provides services or demands taxes. It strikes me that large capitalistic institutions are at least as menacing as government ones...... look how we have been raped by banks with fees etc.

Obviously conspiracy theories talk about "powers" that are bigger tahn banks and companies, and are not accountable in the way elected officials or companies are. I can see the reason for concern.

Just wondering what others think of this heavy use of the term "socialist".

If anyone has watched or watches the "Empire of the City" video, I would be interested in your opinion of the agenda/political position of the producers. Interesting viewing.
 
I think a balance of socialism and capitalism is a good thing and it's actually fairly well implemented in Australia.

Much of the financial meltdown we're seeing is a result of capitalism running silly. People take risks with other peoples money, there are few consequences when things go wrong (government bailout anyone). Checks and balances need to be put in place. At the same time there are a lot of services which people should have basic rights to (health, education) which are provided as part of social government programs. Take a look at the US health and education systems. They work well if you can afford them, but too bad if you can't.

On the other hand, capitalism is part of what drives a successful economy and in itself provides valuable services to the public in a far more cost effective way than many governments can. If it wasn't for private landlords, the housing system would be in a real mess, as would the economy in general. Societies who are strictly socialist tend to have a far poorer standard of living and an even greater wealth divide between the rich and poor.

I think Australia is truly a lucky country. We're not perfect, but the balance does tend to work better than most places I've seen.

In the meantime zenq, keep a lookout for menacing men in suits with dark glasses who talk to their wrists. They're watching you...
 
If you're going to investigate conspiracy theories then I suggest that first you research the psychology behind why people want and need to believe these things.
 
Conspiracy theories make for good tv for the mindless.
They are also entertianing to watch to pick holes in them provided they are not absurd.
Check out the flat earth society.
and the NASA moon conspiracy.

Have you noticed how hard it is for your friends to keep a secret over an extended period of time. The secret eventualy gets out

written outside the fence of area 49
 
too much socialism in this country is why we are known as 'the dumb lucky country'. There is no incentive to work hard and hence why we have so many no hopers. thank god for the red dirt... tho even that aint worth much anymore
 
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