"Helping" the overexposed OTP purchasers

Originally posted by Kristine..
Always & Jakk, when you've bought yours let us know what else is available. A beachside property not made of asbestos cement sheet would make a nice change!

Kristine

Kristine, I said I will have one within 12 months and I will.
..and I promise you that as I am about to put pen to paper, I will call you, In fact I have your number (your mobile number ending in "565") programmed into my phone in anticipation and in readiness for that moment.

As for the Funds to purchase, my good friends at ING are borrowing them from me and I am assured that they will be returned to me as needed on 1 days notice.

So Kristine, will you be joining me and my mate TOKYO AL on the balcony??.............BTW, BYO STUBBOIRS.

Regards
 
Jakk

As soon as you start looking, you will be dazzled by the plethora of choice!

Port Melbourne, overlooking the bustle of piers on one side and the city skyline on the other, a short light rail ride to town:

St Kilda, with it's charm and history and waving palm trees:

Docklands, South Melbourne, or historic CBD buildings - views, vibrancy and lots of fun.

Marvellous Melbourne has so much to offer - why not buy two?

Lotsa love

Kristine
 
As in the maxum of government spending "Why buy one when you can have two at twice the price?"

I didnt know the 100% (0% LVA) cash requirement for purchase?

Are we sure about that? If true surely almost all purchasers even the PPOR will be in big trouble!

I was expecting the bank to say 60~70% LVA based on "very realistic" valuations.

My investments goals for this year are:

a) Purchase one (low priced) IP in Tokyo Japan to get the feel of it.
b) Finish my current development (Q1) and if feasible start another (Q2-Q4).
c) Purchase one bargain apartment in southbank. However I am not going to consume a huge chunk of my LOC to buy outright.
d) If finances permit freestanding house in Sydney's Pymble (if possible with dual occupancy potential). 50/50 investment and potential PPOR.
 
Always

I had a meeting in CBD this morning with a BDM from one of the largest aggregators of mortgages, and during the course of the conversation I threw in the 'Who is lending in the Docklands and 3004 right now! I can name you one - are there any others?' and the Raven quothe nevermore.

In his experienced opinion, these properties are being looked on more as specialist almost commercial securities. You could probably get 65% LVR but only from this one lender. Which is a major bank, just recently taken over by one of the world's richest banks, and they are moving aggresively into the Eastern Seaboard States.

This bank is also lending in the regionals, in other words, they are taking on the deals which the other, more established lenders are not interested in right now, having too many other easier deals to choose from.

So all is not lost, just don't expect a sweetheart deal. Not a strangehold deal either, just not at rock bottom prime rates.

Keep feeding the piggy bank - Jakk expects to have neighbours to wave to from his balcony and you and I are on the 'A' list!

Cheers

Kristine

PS

All lenders publish Lender Guides to brokers, and in these guides are comprehensive lists of 'acceptable' and 'non-acceptable' securities. Hotel - Motel conversions, for example, are hard to fund, Student Accommodation not so hard, Serviced Apartments only a few will do, Units to a title are limited, apartments less than 50 square metres are very difficult, etc etc

The Guides also have detailed lists of Post Codes, and the Lender's LVR within certain Post Codes. This varies from lender to lender. For example, for Horsham, which has 13,000+ population and most of the major banks in the main street, not all of the banks will go above 80% LVR even through the local branch.

Even for triple fronted cream brick veneers on a standard house block of land within prime post codes, there is still tremendous disparity on the loan-to-valuation ratio between lenders.

So Docklands is no exception. Exposure to risk is what it is all about for the lender. At this point in the history of this entire new suburb, Docklands is still 'under construction' and will be for some years to come. Other lenders have reached their self imposed limits of exposure to risk in this locality, and have said 'no more for the time being'. Give it five years, when the apartments are occupied and the occupancy rates have stabilised, and there will no doubt be more players in the field. But at the moment, there is only one, and for how much longer will depend on their own saturation point.

As I commented in my previous post, leaving the seminar attenders aside, this is prime real estate and I would have no doubt that most of the owner occupiers or individual investors have had no trouble funding or financing their purchases if they have plenty of money to put in or other property to secure their loans. In time to come, Docklands and other areas will mature and we will all say 'why didn't I buy when prices were cheap?'

Jakk, is it OK to bring cask wine and some of that yummy avocado dip from the deli at Coles? See you there!!
 
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Originally posted by Kristine..
Jakk, is it OK to bring cask wine and some of that yummy avocado dip from the deli at Coles? See you there!!

I will up that offer, I will bring bottled red and not the cheap stuff either >$20 and I will make the avocado dip myself, fresh (fresh avocado's, fresh lime juice, dash of tabasco, a little course salt, fresh crushed black peper, all purchased at South Melbourne Market), some hot fresh bread sour dough bread ( from my brothers bakery of course) some good cheese, life is for living not existing! :D
 
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Originally posted by always_learning
I will up that offer, I will bring bottled red and not the cheap stuff either >$20 and I will make the avocado dip myself, fresh (fresh avocado's, fresh lime juice, dash of tabasco, a little course salt, fresh crushed black peper, all purchased at South Melbourne Market), some hot fresh bread sour dough bread ( from my brothers bakery of course) some good cheese, life is for living not existing! :D
I like the guacamole, with fresh chopped tomatoes, onion and coriander in addition to the above ingredients.

I also have a fair amount of expensive wine in my cellar- but that was more to do with a tax-effective winery investment which went wrong. I lost thousands of dollars on that thing, and all I was left with were cases of wine.

Still, that's better than a lot of people were left with.
 
Now we are in "business", party time: GeoffW, Jakk, Kristine and me, having a couple of bottles of the good red stuff, discussing IP's, wine provided by Mr "tax effective" Geoffw, dips and bread by me, Kristine cheese, Jakk the Crown Lagers in our devastatingly cheap southbank apartments.
 
Southbank is near the casino and the yarra river whereas the docklands is closer to the ocean and port melbourne .... try looking in port melbourne itself there are numerous new developments coming up around there too (bay street, dow street) !
Go for the sea views ......
Although if you live in Southbank you can be very close to the CBD.
 
sorry I'm talking like I'm trying to sell one ... yes they are sea views well actually bay views. that is if you are facing the right way , if not then you get city views or views of other blocks of flats oops sorry apartments.
 
Originally posted by Kristine..
Ocean?
Kristine,

You are famous for your long, well thought out, and detailed replies- replies that would have taken you hours to compose.

But I think you may have just broken the lounge record for the shortest post? :D
 
Originally posted by always_learning
The Pacific, Indian and Port Philip Ocean's! Sydney has a harbor, Melbourne has it's Ocean!

always_learning...

Melbourne has a BAY. This is a step up from Brisbane's RIVER but well below Sydney's HARBOUR

:D

Cheers,

Aceyducey
 
Originally posted by Aceyducey
always_learning...

Melbourne has a BAY. This is a step up from Brisbane's RIVER but well below Sydney's HARBOUR

:D

Cheers,

Aceyducey

Again ACDC you are low on voltage. In Victoria, it is well known that in the last months of Jeff Kennett's premiership Port Philip was renamed from a "Bay" to an "Ocean" to reflect Victoria's leadership, as this Melways clearly shows

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:)
 
Oh! My God!!!

I can see Lilydale on the map!

That's just near Chirnside Park, isn't it?

Not too far for me to drive home to Docklands after a hard day writing all those mortgages!

And, can I see a little peep of Koo Wee Rup just down past Westernport Ocean? Home of the famous Koo Wee Rup Potato Festival where my darling daughter (of whom you have all heard) did much Highland Flinging wearing full Scottish Highland regalia while the sun beat down and the temperature rose to around 35 degrees!

What is it about bagpipes that always makes me cry? The Piper was from Maffra and he piped and he piped and he piped some more while all those bonny lasses flung themselves about performing Barracks Johnnies and Bonnie Maids and a variety of Reels.

After which, we all ate potatoes (funny, that!) and then we all went home.

Aah, those were the days!
 
Sunstone,

I'm not sure what my reply here had to do with my choice not to raise my tenant's rent. If your reference to it was supposed to be some kind of putdown, it didn't seem so to me- I'm proud of the way I've lived my life and made decisions. They may not be the decisions you might make, but that's ok- because I make my own choices. For me, it's all about ethics. Ethics in buying, selling, tenanting, and everything in between. I am not suggesting that people who don't do what I do are unethical. What I am saying is that ethics underlies all of the decisoins I make with regard to RE.

Cat
 
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