house in franstone?geelong?hastings? pros cons of each, or flat in inner citysuburb?

please can someone tell me
what would be best for
1)renting to students
2)and long term growth

a house in a suburb such as
franstone?geelong?hastings?

what are the pros /cons of each above suburb , would anyone know please

or would it be better to buy a flat in inner citysuburbs despite that growth happens with more land?

thanks

francine
 
please can someone tell me
what would be best for
1)renting to students
2)and long term growth

a house in a suburb such as
franstone?geelong?hastings?

what are the pros /cons of each above suburb , would anyone know please

or would it be better to buy a flat in inner citysuburbs despite that growth happens with more land?

Francine,

You're asking heaps of 'how long is a piece of string' type questions about heaps of areas.

You are also requesting that others spend time in providing answers without you providing evidence of your own learning, investigations and analysis.

I for one get exhausted trying to follow all your flip-flopping across the state - 'Frankstone' one day, then Churchill, Geelong then back to 'Frankstone' and all your different schemes - some of them quite high risk.

Let me make this prediction: you'll still be here in a year's time asking the same questions on the forum, remain as undecided as ever and not bought anything.

To be a doer rather than talker, the following is what you must do as there are no short cuts:

0. Assess financial capability - A job, a deposit of say $30-40k, and the ability to afford $10-15k pa should be sufficient. Ask lenders. If not everything is just window shopping.

1. Decide to go to a suburb that can reasonably be reached there and back in a day. Any affordable outer area would be fine - eg the end of any train line where there's a large shopping strip.

2. Spend say 45 min on a real estate website looking at all for sales in that suburb, focusing on an affordable price range. Spend about 15 min looking at rents for similar properties. Sort by price and print a list.

3. Pack the following: 1. list from the website, 2. street directory, 3. mobile phone, 4. pen & paper, 5. camera. Dress for 4 - 6 hours of walking. Leave home ASAP - no time to lose.

4. If travelling by train use this time to (i) study the street directory noting facilities like schools, shops and universities in the area and (ii) plan a walking tour from the station to as many of the properties in the list as possible (both for sale and to let).

5. Compare variations in streets and neighbourhoods. Look at schools, playgrounds, local shops and bus services (timetables often at stops). If you walk past a property not on the list phone the agent for details about price, condition and rents. An early start is good - this allows (say) 3 hours walking in the morning. Then go back into 'town' for lunch and to check agents windows (some might be open on Sunday) and pick up local papers and brochures. Then out again to look at more places in the afternoon until dark.

6. On the way back sort out records, and develop a short list of properties worth a further look. During the week follow these up with agents asking questions such as rent received, condition, rates and charges. Also talk to property managers. Then work out purchasing and holding costs. Request inspection times and section 32 statements if serious.

7. Repeat for at least one day each week (preferably Saturday as you can plan this around home opens and auctions). Make at least 2 or 3 such visits to each area before looking at others. On weeknights spend a little less time on this forum and a little more time finding out all you can about the area you visited the previous weekend.

Predicting future gains is a mugs' game. However comparing suburbs and properties should generally protect you from buying a dud or paying too much.

Good luck!
 
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Wow Spiderman, very cool tips and I concur that this is the best strategy to evaluate suburbs and choose your perfect location.
 
Francine, I know you mean well but a very large part of property investing is doing your OWN research and due diligence.

You cannot (And this goes to everyone out there who haven't completed their own research/follow this forum) ask questions about every suburb and want everyone to spoon feed you the answers you want.

If you want to know what is good, get out there and do it yourself. If you are not researching it you may end up with a "dud" investment and then blame the one who gave you guidance to such an investment, whereas you should talk their guidance and knowledge on board but NOT let them make a decision for you. Take responsibility for your own investment strategy, including where to buy and what to buy.

If you think you should invest in Geelong - RESEARCH IT.

Jump on realestate.com.au and type in Geelong, VIC in both buy and rent - it will straight away give you an outline of the current market value for a property and the current rental value for a property.

If you think you want to invest for capital growth - search areas with greatest capital growth in the last say 10 years. You can find these on Google if all else fails, simple as "Areas with greatest property growth Victoria" or similar.

If you think you should be investing to rent to students - find where the universities are located, no point buying in Yea if the nearest university is in Lilydale.

If you want the pros and cons of suburbs - look at past threads on here, look up the crime rates on google, vacancy rates can be found on google as well, auction prices are on RP Data and from memory realestate.com.au or TALK TO THE AGENTS or locals at OFIs.

We're very privileged in the generation we live in, we have magnificent tools left, right and centre, use them!

Then, once you have done research feel free to ask your questions with proof that you have actually done some research. That way you have done your own due diligence and know what to look for next time around and where to find it.

As Spiderman said "You are also requesting that others spend time in providing answers without you providing evidence of your own learning, investigations and analysis." and i have seen plenty giving you great advice and it seems you haven't taken any on board.

Perhaps when you have done this research, you can ask your questions again with an understanding of the areas as well and many people would be quite happy to give you a helping hand.
 
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