Microchip population very near - they won't need a census anymore!

Watch these official release recently and you be
the judge!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uVw5XSWbjA&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeZCpXj6IV8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNMSyq8ucxU&mode=related&search=


In WW2, the NAZI's had war prisoners with numbers
tatooed on their arm! NOW, IBM wants to do the same to
you soon! Now US senior politicians are saying its the
thing to do, because they already volunteered!

Few years ago(late 1990s), I read in a conspiracy book
about leaked rumours of a microchip that is the size
of a grain of rice that had been patented, that can be
injected into people. In the book, it reported, first
it was tested without the patient's knowing (kind of
like what we usually hear in a UFO abduction story).
The chip is so small that it can be implanted with a
sringe! Looks like a grain of rice.

This rumour has
been told by conspiracy theorists for many years! Since many years ago, they had claimed that the government and 'secret societies'(which comprise of those who are in power- of government, economy, law) have a bigger agenda, for a "New World Order", where those in power becomes the master and the mass population the slave. This is the Freemasonic occult symbol on the US dollar bill the All Seeing Eye in the top of the pyramid, overseeing the rest of the pyramid. The few control the many! Those who are rich print money (paper money is not backed by Gold anymore, its now just paper with nothing to back it up. Yet they charge interest?), and the mass population work hard to earn it , then pay tax.

Regarding the microchip, at that time, most people called it a hoax or just
'conspiracy theory'.BUT NOW ITS REAL AND IT'S ON CNN!
They're selling it to you - The Verichip. They are
encouraging people to do it, "for medical and security
reasons" and one company in USA is stupid enough to
fall for it voluntarily to start implanting their
employees with it, so the employees can open the
digital lock of the door with his microchip in his
arm! No more scan cards inthe future! Their marketing
push now is "to track children and keep them safe",
"for security" "for medical reasons".

First, do it for your health and security sake. Then once the idea
is widely accepted, then slowly, add new features such
as, putting your name, address, job, financial data,
tax data, and then use it as a credit card! Very
clever persuasion technique! "When the acceptance rate
of the product goes up significantly, the privacy
concerns go down"

We are certainly one step closer to a microchip
population! Once this is accepted by the majority of
public, at one point they will make it compulsory for
all! (much like its compulsory to have a tax file
number!)

Think about this - what freedom will we have in the
near future once this is mainstream? Everywhere you go
there are scanners that you know (such as in shops
when you buy things that scans your arm to get your
credit), and also unknown hidden scanners. THEY WILL
KNOW YOUR EVERY MOVE (when you were in a toilet, when
you are at home, who you had sex with), HOW MUCH MONEY
YOU EARN AND SPEND, WHERE YOU ARE AT WHAT TIME, ETC.
What kind of life is that? Never before in the history
of the world except in Nazi Germany had this
happened before.

The government wants to know everything. They want to
control you completely. It is a tracking device like
how they track the movement of sea turtles and sharks!

Is this the population of the future? The controlled
population that act like slaves. You do not have to
report anything about you, your microchip does it for
you!

Sometimes, conspiracy theories are reporting the
Truth!
Look at the american dollar, with an ALL-SEEING EYE on
top of the pyramid. It is a masonic symbol of the few
who are in control(government and secret societies
comprised of those in power and the mighthy rich who
control the world economy), overseeing the rest of the
mass of people (bottom of pyramid). Those in power would become like God, omnoscient, ALL SEEING/ALL KNOWING!

Our civilization is moving From Freedom To Control!
Now the theorists are going "See?! Told you!"


Also Must watch -
Part 1 - 8 by History Channel

If you loved DaVinci Code, you will love this modern
version of conspiracy.

"President G.W. Bush admitted he was in the Skull and
Bones when he was at Yale University!" Most of the people in US government belong to some secret society - including Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, George Bush etc, and most of those who signed the bill of rights.

Part 1 - 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRmXAeRInHM&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTjNhP7EC98&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iOsV7xlxnc&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgDcaPudwnY&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToSFvQRvyfg&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=torjKn9wdT4&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODXYWcMvLek&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBRDRsOwS2I&mode=related&search=
 
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Bring it on.

The only ones to have a problem will be the criminals. We could all walk straight onto planes. Everyone with a criminal record, or no chip [as in terrorists] could be sussed right out.

While where at it, why not DNA test and record the entire population. Yep, any rapist would immediately be identified. Crime would be almost stopped in it's tracks. What a wonderful idea.

You should keep spreading the idea rodimus

In the future, we will need to give up a little bit of our freedom to really be free.

See ya's.
 
If that happens, going bush would be the best thing to do.
Does anyone know revelations ??

This is something a mate of mine was very much into in his late teenage years... taken from here - http://www.countdown.org/mark_of_the_beast.htm



The Mark of the Beast described in Revelations chapter 13 is one of the most interesting portions of Bible Prophecy. First here's the actual verses:

And [the Antichrist] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save [except] he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Rev 13:16-18 KJV

So according to this passage in the Bible the Antichrist will force everyone to accept a mark in either the right hand or forehead of the wearer. Without this mark you won't be able to buy or sell. And then for a bit of intrigue it says, "If you're smart figure this out, the number of the Beast (which has something to do with the Mark) is 666."

Many people that will be a chip implant. It definitely fits the bill of a mark that enables you to buy or sell. If so, then this is the first generation technologically that is capable of such a feat. Not only is the this technology being tested and implemented, it's also being accepted by society (see below). Hardly a week goes by without mention of it in the news media, science journals or elsewhere.
 
Topcropper, you do not understand the enormous impact this will have on people's life soon. Soon people will not have any privacy AT ALL, and everything will be tracked by satellite. There will be no freedom.

They will know your spending habits, how much you earn, how much asset you have, who you slept with, where you were born, where you were at xyz time, who you were with, who you bank with, which school you went, with just a scan on you. No need for research. Its fine if you think you have nothing to hide, but think twice - where in the name of god is the freedom, the privacy? We would all be tracked like robots, scanned like merchandise in a supermarket, worse than that they know your every move and your complete history. It violates everyone's privacy. The idea of privacy will be a thing of the past.

"Oh by the way you were at this place at 1.20pm. I think you took the pencil after you filled the forms."
"We know you crossed the street while the pedestrian traffic light was red at 5.32pm"
"We know what you said over the phone to Mr xyz on 21st June"

For example, very much like in Nazi Germany, everyone had a punch-hole card for ID. Hole 3 means they are homosexual. Hole 8 means they are Jew. They can do what they want to do for every agenda they have.

You will have no personal secrets. They more they know, the more they control the people's lives.

When it becomes law, those who do not have the micrcochip will be considered outlaws, everybody must have it.
 
??????:confused:
Why should we care?

Save from terrorists because of a little chip? Think carefully - You will be nowhere safer from any terrorists than you are now.

If someone wants to hijack a plane, they can do so as long as they do not have criminal records. Do you think all terrorists have criminal records in the past? All they need to do is to get 'fresh' people who are willing to die as they carry their mission. Feel any safer now?

Security is just one of the excuse to implant those things in everyone and to make it mandatory so that they are in control. Remember, they have more control over the masses after they instill fear in us.

Look what I found , a CNN news report clip about the inconsitencies of 9/11 reports. Even CNN reported that the Pentagon testimonials contained too many inconsistent facts about what happened. This is on CNN!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdnwLdyfGKQ&NR

Watch it and see what u think.

Also I found this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySMdAF-GACw

more and more inestigations showing inconsistent lies the official reports are telling the people. Watch what the fireman say they saw. Hear what the owner of Building 7 tells the news. BUt the public always love to believe the "official stories" that those in power wants us to believe. Too lazy to think for themselves?

Plus, do you think all the suspects from 9/11 were real? Subsequent report and investigation has shown that many of them have been reported to be still alive, while the US government reported that those people hijacked the planes and died in their mission. Why didnt these news about the inconsistencies make headline? Do you think all those official reports and published photos are 100% real? Its just things they want you to believe. Hah, they said they found proof a hijacker's passport on the street 2 blocks from the WTC (how convenient), while the fireman said everything in the building was so pulverised that the biggest piece of office equipment is the size of a small mobile phone. Even a few US Senators have spoken out and suggested to Congress that the 9/11 official report (which the government considered 'final') has TOO MANY incongruencies, wrong facts and were lies to the people. Yes these Senators have spoken out freely about their doubts about the 9/11 report, and the government is not answering.

Even the firemen on the scene have spoken out, they said when they entered, many isolated lower floors looked like they had been bombed by explosives, and there were isolated fires. 2 firemen specifically reported on tv interview as they watch before the towers collapse, floor by floor from top to bottom were exploding as if by detonation, AND THEN the top starts to collapse. And not to forget sometime before 9/11 there was a huge blackout in the WTC, and "engineers" had to be sent in to 'fix it' for days. This was reported by those who worked there on certain floors. These were items raised by skeptics and many of these issues were brought up by a few Senators to the 9/11 Inquiry.

Why did the FBI quickly confiscate all tapes from nearby security cameras just a few minutes the plane supposedly hit the Pentagon? Why did they issue a warning to the hotel staff not to comment on anything they saw on the Pentagon? If its a plane, its plane. What's so secret about that? Well, just that the hole in the pentagon is not big enough to fit a Boeing plane, and there was no wing or any parts, except a small engine that looks nothing like from a Boeing plane. Even Boeing(the company) told the 9/11 investigation team that that is not an engine part from a Boeing plane.

In the transcript from the classroom, it said Bush told the kid that he saw on tv in the morning a plane flying into a building and Bush commented "boy, he's sure not a very good pilot!". Then after talking to the kids for a while, the guy comes in and tells Bush the 2nd tower is hit, and "America is under attack". And then Bush pauses and continues on to read to the kids the story about a goat. The americans are saying , the goat is more important than the country. Plus the big mistake is that - why did he say he saw the first plane hit, when at that time there were no footages shown on tv of the first plane? The only footage the news had was the 2nd plane and 2nd tower, and before that of smoke coming out of the tower. Even CNN and Fox didnt have footages of the first plane until later when eyewitness sent in their videos. So Bush must have a secret camera and tv somewhere before he entered the classroom? Or he already knew it telepathicly?

First they said they were SURE from their govt intelligence that Iraq has nuclear weapon, but when they invaded it, they couldn't prove anything.

And the owner of WTC Building 7, a few months before 9/11 he signed on a new insurance cover for several billions(lucky? or he heard some tips?), specifically covering for many things including a terrorist attack. And he told CNN (this was televised!) that on 9/11 the chief fireman called him on the phone and said Building 7 is on fire, and that they have to "pull it" (detonate it). But now the Senators and skeptics are saying, how can the fireman rig the detonators and explosives in a building floor by floor that is heavily on fire? On the footage you see each floor exploding and the building is demolished (or they told the public - 'collapsed' under the fire). That kind of task takes days of specialized skill and care to lay the explosives. The owner and govt did not comment or give an answer on that.

These are all isolated news, but most people take it at face value and do not try to think - does this piece match the other piece? If not, then who is telling the truth and which is lying?

If you really so love to have a chip in you and to forfeit your privacy rights, go ahead.

******************
 
Ok ok, lets all not doubt the government anymore. The politicians and government are ALWAYS telling the truth. They NEVER lie. Never believe any piece of news from 60-minutes or CNN or any sources that even dare to question the government's actions, statements and intents.

Do not believe anyone who questions or doubts the government or major media. Politicians and owners of mainstream magazines, TV stations, etc. are perfect & are free from greed, self interest, and we should do as they say without hesitation. If everyone follows this course, the world will become a utopia free of all poverty, disease, conflict, and financial uncertainty. The events of 9/11 happened exactly as the U.S. government has told us. Eventhough after the Iraq war they were accused for exaggerating Iraq's capabilities and told untrue 'facts and finidings' about Iraq, that's all fine, must have been a misprint on their official statements and speech. So continue watching 3 hours of TV every night, do not read, & continue to give 50% or more of your earnings to government. This will make you happy.

If you doubt this, just look at the way the Great Society programs have eliminated poverty (as LBJ said, "we will end poverty with a stroke of the pen."), the U.N. has ended all armed conflict in the world, and the Social(ist) (In)Security system is thriving & healthy (just as politicians told us it would be). Since, as the government claims, a complete government takeover of the U.S. health system will make it perfect, allow the government to take over every single aspect of the economy, then we will have reached the promised land, as did the Soviet Union.

IBM's director in the 1930s provided the machines and technology to help Germany tag their people, it must be just a normal business transaction. They didn't know Hitler was the customer. Oh Mr Watson did not know about the holocaust eventhough it was in the major newspaper in America for many years, he must have missed the paper, oh busy man working in his lab. That must be why he opened more franchises to help the German census and record keeping in Nazi Austria, France, Holland, Poland, Germany and other countries there from 1933 - 1940 . Oh he was so in the dark. Oh maybe he didn't even know about Nazi wanting to conquer Europe and didnt even know about the war at all. Oh when he said ignore morality, go for the dollar, he must've been drunk.

When they said before the war they had proof that Iraq has nuclear weapon being set up, they are 100% telling the facts, eventhough any trace of evidence is somehow completely gone or non-existence when they went in there. But, the government must had based their findings on some solid facts in order to start the war on Iraq. It must be true because it's reported by the media and it came from the president and politician's mouth!

Back to 9/11. The fact that John Ashcroft & some Pentagon officials discontinued traveling on commercial airlines prior to 9/11 because of a "threat assessment" by the FBI-and failed to warn the general public-means nothing. Yes, some small groups of people made a fortune shorting airline & insurance stocks immediately BEFORE 9/11, the media mentioned it in passing after 9/11, but the investigation into this was dropped shortly afterwards; this does not concern you-go back to watching Friends or Simpsons (tonight's episode may be the single most important moment in the history of our world). And, yes, eventhough the testimonials from the Pentagon regarding the attack is inconsistent and currently pushed by some activists that criminal charges be laid to those in Pentagon who give false testimonials doesn't bother you since you believe every word they publish officially; and the government will always protect us and we should give them even more power as a result of 9/11.

Finally, it is logical to believe, as the government claims, that the black boxes from the two jets that crashed into WTC 1 & 2-black boxes that are built to withstand anything short of a nuclear explosion-were destroyed to dust in the impact, yet the passport from one of the hijackers, which was made of thin plastic & paper, survived the impact & was even recovered from the rubble; don't trouble yourself with this-your 12-pack of Bud is getting warm.

Government is great, government protects us from everything, & government must be allowed to grow infinitely in their control over us. Oops, look at the time! The episode of Smallville with the babe in the hot tub is about to start-we can't miss that.:eek:

The FDA told us the medicine was great to take, but years down the line multiple terrible side effects are found. But that's all ok, must be fake testimonials from the victims. Hey let's all go get some microchips injected in our head or arm! Ohh, comon whadoyousay...:rolleyes: ? Yippee! Possibility of sublimal messages and that they already possess the technology to do that? What does that matter. I trust them, don't you? It MUST be for our own good in some ways. Let's just do it without questions, it's the thing to do. Even the US government whom we trust recommends it.
 
rodimus said:
For example, very much like in Nazi Germany, everyone had a punch-hole card for ID. Hole 3 means they are homosexual. Hole 8 means they are Jew. They can do what they want to do for every agenda they have.
Rodimus,
I was just wondering with this punch/hole thing if you were a Jew
and a property investor as most Jews were in the 1930's you
would not have stood a chance with the way the low life nazi
system worked, how lucky we are these days or are we......
good luck willair
 
I am looking forward to the smart card coming soon. I reckon they should take it further and let it act as

  • a credit card
  • a "small change card" which could be swiped for small purchases such as a paper, a bottle of milk or a bus ticket with no signature and needing topups,
  • A drivers license
  • a library card
  • an ID card
  • and anything else bulking out my wallet.

If they could then reduce this to a chip in my hand that I could wave over a scanner to board a bus, buy something or see a Dr etc that would be terrific.

I had a Service number and an ID card for near on 20 years and it never worried me then.

We all have TFNs now, why not link them to everything!

Bring it on.

For those who believe in Conspiracies can you possibly imagine the workforce needed to monitor each individual? Even with computers it would be huge. With my time in the Army and working in some pretty sensitive areas I reckon I 100% agree with a saying I once heard.

If the choice seems to be a government conspiracy or a government stuff up then I would choose the latter every time.

Cheers,
 
Willair,

ERRR..... I read it in a bestselling book? There is something called a BOOK in this world, and its where you can find information where you have not experienced before. It's called "IBM and the Holocaust". The author won the Pulitzer prize for that book. And the Holleritz punch hole machine is still in the Holocaust Museum in USA.
So please before you blast any sarcastic remarks, please think twice and don't think I'm talking bull.

If you haven't read the book yet, watch this short documentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc6g2...elated&search=

The facts presented in the book has been researched by researchers to find if the author was writing fact or fiction, and they were amazed to discover that they could verify it. Here's Amazon's review.

Amazon.com
Was IBM, "The Solutions Company," partly responsible for the Final Solution? That's the question raised by Edwin Black's IBM and the Holocaust, the most controversial book on the subject since Daniel Jonah Goldhagen's Hitler's Willing Executioners. Black, a son of Holocaust survivors, is less tendentiously simplistic than Goldhagen, but his thesis is no less provocative: he argues that IBM founder Thomas Watson deserved the Merit Cross (Germany's second-highest honor) awarded him by Hitler, his second-biggest customer on earth. "IBM, primarily through its German subsidiary, made Hitler's program of Jewish destruction a technologic mission the company pursued with chilling success," writes Black. "IBM had almost single-handedly brought modern warfare into the information age [and] virtually put the 'blitz' in the krieg."
The crucial technology was a precursor to the computer, the IBM Hollerith punch card machine, which Black glimpsed on exhibit at the U.S. Holocaust Museum, inspiring his five-year, top-secret book project. The Hollerith was used to tabulate and alphabetize census data. Black says the Hollerith and its punch card data ("hole 3 signified homosexual ... hole 8 designated a Jew") was indispensable in rounding up prisoners, keeping the trains fully packed and on time, tallying the deaths, and organizing the entire war effort. Hitler's regime was fantastically, suicidally chaotic; could IBM have been the cause of its sole competence: mass-murdering civilians? Better scholars than I must sift through and appraise Black's mountainous evidence, but clearly the assessment is overdue.

The moral argument turns on one question: How much did IBM New York know about IBM Germany's work, and when? Black documents a scary game of brinksmanship orchestrated by IBM chief Watson, who walked a fine line between enraging U.S. officials and infuriating Hitler. He shamefully delayed returning the Nazi medal until forced to--and when he did return it, the Nazis almost kicked IBM and its crucial machines out of Germany. (Hitler was prone to self-defeating decisions, as demonstrated in How Hitler Could Have Won World War II.)

Black has created a must-read work of history. But it's also a fascinating business book examining the colliding influences of personality, morality, and cold strategic calculation. --Tim Appelo --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.
 
Rodimus and Woohoo,

You two are the same people right? [hey, theres not a conspiracy going on here is there?] If not, sorry, but you sound very similar.

Seriously, I could not give two hoots about if someone knows what I'm doing all day. So what if some public servant knows how much money I have or what I spend it on and all the other stuff.

I was willing to listen to what you 2 had to say until the September 11 crap came up. Go and get a life.

I am willing to give up my privacy if me and my family can be safe. How is this for a safe future world,....

An unknown man rapes a teenage girl and takes off. Within a few hours, his DNA is tested. In this world of the future, everyones DNA is recorded. The offender is now known. This supposed chip, which I hadn't really thought about until Rodimus bought it up, great idea too, is able to be tracked by satelite. So the satelite locates the offender. He is arrested and put away. All within 6 hours, before he can offend again. But, in reality, this crime would probably never have been commited. Knowing you would be caught would be the best ever deterant .

If this is what crime prevention will be like in the future, then I don't care about losing my privacy. My privacy and freedom has already been taken away somewhat by criminals and terrorists. I can't travel with the ease of 20 years ago or do lots of other things. The worry is always there about terrorist acts.

As I said earlier, keep spreading the word about this chip. More people Like me might start to see what a good idea it would be. I also like Simons idea about a smart card. Would make life a lot easier in many aspects. This smart card would be the logical first step before an implanted chip.

See ya's.
 
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Since a few years ago we have been reading about these inconsistent reports in the news too, especially while i was in america. They are literally all over the media including time magzn, cnn, daily newspaper n what what have yous. It is good that many people particularly the Yankees are waking up and thinking and analyzing what happened rather than just accepting things that the media n whoever controls the media think we should believe and know. If you are the one governing society, the one thing u fear would be people thinking n analyzing n asking questions with reasonable doubt. The thinking public is the only thing that can stop these people from doing whatever they want for what ever agenda they have, using our tax money. Theese controversial things you do pick up from very extensive reading and following up in a vast range of diverse topics n also following the world news. Politics, science, religion, psychology, finance, wars, current debates n others. But it is all pretty controversial stuff, not something the regular working mums n dads care about. They pay their tax bill, go to work and as long as they can live their daily life they are happy. But one thing for sure, politicians in government in nearly every country, being human do lie for whatever reason they have. Evrybody can lie, n it seems politicians r the pro’s at doin it. They have their own interest too. Bill Clinton under oath – does that ring a bell for you? Mr Howard and Telstra promise? Most general public are not interested about reading about such topics(unless it evolves around who is sleeping with who haha) especially politics or helping to change the world to a better place, until an event escalates n affects them negatively, then they have an uproar and start to sue or strike.. Then it makes the headlines. It is natural reactive living of public. And we all do it on some level. Most aussies are not too interested in Sep 11, as it is so far away. But the ripple effects of what is going on in the global world do affect us ultimately. These affect decisions on a large scale that alters the laws and lives of people and countries. I saw some where the families of those who lost members of families in sep 11, over 400 families are suing the US government in particular their lovely president mr bush junior over the alledged inconsistent official reports.
I do consider the chip being a bit giving too much info to the hands of government/politicians, the very people we don't trust too much, n although it is government servant accessing the info or the computer doing it, they still serve bigger shots( ie. politicians) who have plans, interests and agendas. You see on tele advertisement they encouraged eating red meat in general(they are not promoting any brand, just meat), eveh though we already know what excess red meat does to our weight, heart and cholesterol. They did it because they wanted the diary and farming industry to thrive. More money. Let the people eat red meat, tell them it is great. Shows you how much vested interest they have in a seeming innocent advertisement and how much they care about us.
Speaking of subliminall messages, they r also used throughout advertisements n on tv commercial unethically. Years ago they use subliminal words on cinema theatres to flash “buy popcorn” “buy drink” at only a fraction of a second that only the viewer’s unconscious mind catches the message, while their conscious logical mind remain unaware of it. That cinema popcorn and drinks sales increased more than 200% in within few days! And people are not aware of it at all and act on a deeper conscious level to fulfil that sublevel suggestion. Moralists are saying it is similar as being hypnotized without our consent. It is a great tool of influence or manipulation. It is fascinating what the public n consumers will accept in this modern world!
If someone has vested interest in manipulating the economy or property and has access to sending subliminal messages to the public psychology, they could pick out who are the traders or investors, and they would go sent this message “Sell now at low price”, or “Buy buy like there is no tomorrow”. Don’t you love that? Or “Vote for Bush!”
 
Just had to have my say regards the whole idea of a total ID chip. Many of the most successful people have started life from humble beginnings, they have become successful against the odds, they have succeeded though many doubted they could, they have done so because they believed in themselves more than their circumstances.

The reason I hate the thought of a total ID chip is it's potential to limit a person because of the amount of 'facts' they can store. There are enough prejudices without this type of invasion.

Regards

Andrew
 
Bargain Hunter said:
The reason I hate the thought of a total ID chip is it's potential to limit a person because of the amount of 'facts' they can store. There are enough prejudices without this type of invasion.

Regards

Andrew

Andrew,

i don't see what you are saying - can you explain your point further or perhaps illustrate it with an example?

Thanks
 
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