Nras

NRAS finance response to burty85. It is important to note that all NRAS properties are not the same. The government provides NRAS incentives to various applicants who then make the approved properties available to individual investors. Each applicant has their own arrangements. Some put caveats on the properties and have 10 year lock-in contracts which lenders don't like because it restricts the lenders ability to repossess the property if things go bad. That's why you have received the "case-by-case" response. The trouble is many brokers and bank employees don't actually know much about NRAS so it is possible that you could get a negative response due to lack of knowledge on their account. You might like to educate them by getting them to read the NRAS report by Ruby Janssen



Paul is right. NRAS is poorly understood by most banks and brokers. The lack of understanding has nothing to do with the actual properties. They are normal properties. What complicates things when you talk to most banks and brokers is that they don't quite seem to fully understand what Approved Participants are, and how all the various Approved Participants "agreements" work.

Understanding Approved Participants is THE key to obtaining finance for NRAS. Ive posted on this extensively on this site peviously, but will have another crack at it in case you haven't seen those posts....

Understanding NRAS from a banks perspective

NRAS allocations are actually awarded to Approved Participants, not to the individual investor- ie YOU. Therefore the NRAS tax incentive is not actually paid to the individual investor -ie YOU, it is paid to the Approved Participant. The Approved Participant then passes it on to YOU. In order for this to happen in a manner which is approved by the ATO, you are required to enter into one of a variety of legal "agreements/models/structures"- (call it what you will) with the Approved Participant who owns the NRAS allocation on your investment property.
There are three main types of "agreements/models/structures" that have evolved since NRAS began in 2008
1. Head Lease Agreement
2. Managed Investment Scheme
3. Non Entity Joint Venture

The type of agreement you are required to enter into will depend on which Approved Participant owns the NRAS allocation attached to the property you are buying.

Because there are so many different Approved Participants (17 I think?) and each has a different "agreement" for you to sign, there's a lot of work involved for banks to review and approve the various models across the entire NRAS market. It's an expensive exercise for a bank to review all those models, make changes to lending policy, paperwork and loan documentation etc etc.
Most the major banks have been reluctant to make the effort and incur the expense, because in 2008, when NRAS was launched, the first Approved Participant in the market, set up legal agreements which were extremely cumbersome and expensive, and placed severe restrictions on a banks right to repossess the property in the event of a mortgage default. The agreement also placed severe restrictions on the lenders right to re-sell the property /dispose of the asset in the event of a repossession.
Obviously when banks and mortgage insurers saw this, it caused them to take a very dim view of NRAS, and its only been in recent months that some banks have been prepared to take another close look at NRAS.
What they have found is that many new Approved Partipants have evolved, and the legal models have now evolved. Non Entity Joint Venture models have simplified all the legal issues around repossession.

So what does all this mean for finance?

Well, it means that at this stage, a small number of lenders have started to do the homework required on the newer Approved Participants, to decide which "models" they are willing to lend to. This is not a comprehensive list...but these are the main Approved Participants and it should get you started with understanding which Approved Participants and which lenders you should be talking to

Queensland Affordable Housing Consortium ( QAHC) - Head Lease Agreement
Westpac, St George, Rams and Firstmac will lend. Firstmac is the only lender that uses 100% of the NRAS incentive for servicing

Questus Limited - Non Entity Joint Venture via Managed Investment Scheme
Westpac, St George, Rams and Firstmac will lend. Firstmac is the only lender that uses 100% of the NRAS incentive for servicing

Ethan Affordable Housing - Non Entity Joint Venture
Bendigo Adelaide Bank and Firstmac will lend. Firstmac is the only lender that uses 100% of the NRAS incentive for servicing

Urban Affordable Housing Association ( UAHA) - Non Entity Joint Venture
Firstmac will lend. Firstmac is the only lender that uses 100% of the NRAS incentive for servicing

Aspire - Non Entity Joint Venture
Westpac, St George and Rams will lend

Affordable Management Corporation - Non Entity Joint Venture
Westpac, St George and Rams will lend


Basically, these are the approved particpants you can get finance for. And the four lenders that you should look at are; St George, Westpac, Rams and Firstmac.

All four use 65% of Gross Market Rental for servicing
Only Firstmac uses the NRAS incentive for servicing, so they have the best borrowing capacity by far.
St George Westpac and Rams do 70% LVR without LMI, and up to 85% with LMI
Firstmac does 80% without LMI
Rates, DEF's app fees, etc... shouldn't matter whatsoever- these are 10 year buy and hold properties which are cash flow positive after the first year, for 10 years.
 
Thanks for all that information guys.

This is something we do keep putting in the 'too hard basket' but I am willing to re-visit it if things are getting sorted out now.

:)
 
Still seem to be loads of sceptics about NRAS, so thought I'd map out a 10 year scenario, in an effort to give people a little more understanding and confidence.
Let me stress upfront that I'm a fan of the less expensive NRAS properties because of the cash flow they offer. I believe the scheme's tax incentives provide the equivalent of capital gain, so theres no need to chase NRAS properties at the more expensive end of the spectrum, but in this example I'm using an extreme/ worst case mathematical scenario as a "stress test" of NRAS,to see how the numbers stack up on the most expensive NRAS properties- the ones that some forum members will want to buy, for their capital growth potential. The ones that some forum members have bagged relentlessly. Fair play to them...lets take a look. Is NRAS a great opportunity, or is it hot air?
I've used a theoretical property which is at the absolute upper end of the price range for NRAS (500K) which would normally expect to attract full market rental of $500 per week. In this example, it would rent at $400 p/wk, under NRAS. This represents a 20% discount.
Please keep in mind that the majority of NRAS properties are priced well below 500K though, so the outcomes of this scenario will be absolutely worst case. But that's the point.
For the purpose of this exercise Ive used annual rental increases of 6%, for each of the next ten years. Ive also used annual NRAS increases of 6% for each of the next 10 years, because the NRAS incentive increases in line with the national rental component of CPI, which has actually averaged more than 6% in recent years. As background, the NRAS incentive was $8000 in 2008 when this scheme launched. It increased to $8600 in 2009- which was an increase of 7.5%. It then increased to $9140 for this financial year, which was an increase of 6.28%. You can verify this data on any NRAS website or the Fed Govts DEPT FAHCSIA, website

So, here are the mathematics for the "stress test" FYI, I have rounded up and down in some cases, because no one wants to read multiple decimal points- and this site doesnt allow me to publish spreadsheet type data. But the numbers are very close to spot on. You're welcome to calculate things yourself, to confirm accuracy.

Year Market rental NRAS discount x52 weeks NRAS Incentive Difference
2011/12 $500 $100 $5200 $9688 +$4488
2012/13 $530 $106 $5512 $10269 +$4757
2013/14 $562 $112.40 $5844.80 $10885 +$5040.20
2014/15 $595 $119 $6188 $11538 +5350
2015/16 $631 $126.20 $6562.40 $12230 +5667.60
2016/17 $669 $133.80 $6957.60 $12964 +6006.40
2017/18 $709 $141.80 $7373.60 $13742 +6368.40
2018/19 $751 $150.20 $7810.40 $14566 +6755.60
2019/20 $796 $159.20 $8278.40 $15440 +7161.60
2020/21 $836 $167.20 $8694.40 $16366 +7671.60
2021/22 $886 $177.23 $9216 $17347 +8131

Total rental income you forego via NRAS, over 10 years. @$68,421
Total tax incentive received via NRAS, over 10 years @$154,175

FYI- a 4% annual increase in NRAS equals $139,224 over 10 years
a 5% annual increase in NRAS equals $145,057 over 10 years
a 7% annual increase in NRAS equals $163,483 over 10 years


Everything else about NRAS is exactly the same as any other investment property. Normal Negative Gearing rules apply. In fact you'll receive additional neg gearing benefits because you are getting less rental income, so your deductions will be greater than on a property where you received 100% of the market rental, because your "losses" ie- what you have to put in yourself, are greater.
So, as far as Negative Gearing goes for this example, if you borrow 100% plus costs to finance the NRAS purchase(which is now possible...there are lenders who will now do NRAS- see my previous posts about Westpac, St George, Rams and also Firstmac- who I believe have the best NRAS product and policy by far, if for no other reason than servicing capacity) you would have to secure 20% plus costs against your PPOR or another investment property, and 80% would be secured against the NRAS property. Using conservative interest rate figures of 8% for example (I'm factoring in a couple of rate rises for 2011) and the loans being set up as Interest Only, it should look something like this.
Loan would be approx 520K. (500K plus stamp duty and costs - may be less for house/land)
8% Interest Only. Interest payments would be @ $41,600 per annum. Based on this particular example, annual NRAS Rental Income is $20,800 ($400 p/week) Your total Loss/ deduction would be almost 21K

Normal depreciation rules also apply to NRAS properties. So in an example such as this one (a new dwelling valued at 500K) you could reasonably expect that depreciation deductions would typically be worth as much as 9K-10K per annum across Pools A and B. (For less expensive NRAS properties, the depreciation deductions will be a little less. On a 350K purchase for example, depreciation would probably be in the 6-7K vicinity)

Your other costs during the first year of ownership would be conveyancing, loan establishment costs, rates, utilities, property management fees, NRAS costs, insurance, incidentals and strata fees(if buying a unit or townhouse) and they might total somewhere in the vicinity of @ 7K-10K or more, depending on the state you purchase in, and whether you buy a strata property or not, and have to pay strata fees. For this scenario, we will assume costs of 7K

So conservatively speaking, in this example of a 500K house and land purchase, when you add all your total deductions in year one of ownership they could easily total @ 37K or more.

On a tax rate of 30%, that's going to equate to a possible 11K return, and on a tax rate of 38%, that's potentially a 14K return, or more. Then you also get the NRAS incentive of $9140 (and rising annually- see table above) so you can see how attractive the "maths" looks. Talk to your accountant to confirm this, obviously. Im only offering information on a scenario here, for the purposes of "stress testing" NRAS- everyone's got to get their own tax advice.
So assuming your accountant agrees that I know what Im talking about with regards to NRAS - and he will - 'cos I do :) - at the end of the first full financial year of NRAS ownership, you'd receive somewhere in the vicinity of 21-24K back from the tax man, depending on your marginal tax rate and personal circumstances (you may receive a lot more, if you have other investment property deductions, work related expenses etc..Im purely looking at a 500K NRAS purchase in this scenario)

Now lets go back to the property. It has cost you about 28K out of your own pocket to own it in the first year. That's made up of about 21K in "holding costs"- the difference between the interest you're paying on 520K @ 8%, and the rent you're receiving, and 6-7K in miscellaneous costs , most of which were one off costs, such as conveyancing. In year two onwards, you wont have conveyancing costs, legal fees or loan establishment costs, so your ongoing miscellaneous costs should reduce by about 40-50%, to 4K or so.
That means your total ongoing costs for Year 2 onwards will be about 24K -26K. (loan interest of 20-21K, and other costs of 4-5K) This will mainly be made up of insurance, rates, property management, strata fees ( if applicable) and NRAS costs, which vary WILDLY between different NRAS models - see my previous post on the "approved participants" and do your own maths. The less expensive models only charge 5-7% of the NRAS incentive annually, so you are probably looking at $500-600 per year, plus property management fees. The more expensive charge about double that. Ive written in some detail about the different Approved Participants previously, so read those posts if you want details on the differences between them. In any event, as I said above, adding all of this up means that your total holding costs for year two onwards will float between 24-26K, most likely- depending on which approved participant you entered into NRAS with.

So, to review....in this example- designed to place a huge "stress test" on NRAS's claims of cash flow positivity, by crunching the numbers on a 500K property, rented at $400 per week..what we can conclude is that at 500K, its pretty tight. It is going to cost you about 25K out of your own pocket each year, to hold on to this property. From year two onwards, the tax man and Fed Govt are going to carry almost all that load for you, but remember that YOU have to cover it in the first year, until you get your tax done and NRAS incentives paid. You CANNOT get private rulings from the ATO for NRAS. I repeat, you CANNOT. So, the moral of the story is this...if you don't have a lazy 25K laying around unused, you'd have to have made sure you borrowed the extra 25K when you set up your loans. You'll be getting 22-25K back from the tax man after year one, so you'll only need to potentially contribute 2-3K per year after that. But you have to cover the whole shortfall in the first year. Refer to previous paragraph about trying to do a deal with the tax man. :) It CANNOT be done for NRAS.
So we arrive at the end of this scenario, and having stress tested a 500K NRAS purchase, hopefully this helps you understand how all the numbers work, and that even at this extreme end, it can be close to cash flow positive after the first year, if you do your sums and you're in the right marginal tax rat etc. Not quite, but close. Hopefully you will agree that the scheme offers a fantastic opportunity to investors,l and maybe the naysayers might even admit that the numbers are pretty compelling.

What it certainly demonstrates is that the sweet spot for NRAS is definitely not at the 500K end of the market, so this is not a scheme where capital growth properties should be your prime concern. It doesnt quite get you Cash flow positive at this price point/rental income combination. But the good news is, the less expensive the property, the better the numbers work. And this is where the real potential is with NRAS.
I believe the sweet spot for NRAS is 400-440K and below. The very best cash flow can be achieved under 300K obviously, but those properties may not offer the same capital gain potential as some of the 400-440K stock, so you have to balance out your priorities. The premium buys are probably in the low-mid 300's, where you can get good property in decent locations, without losing the cash flow benefits of the scheme.

Having said all of that- Im not suggesting you all buy 350K-440K NRAS properties. Im simply saying that below 400-440K, the numbers are much less stressed. I actually think the less expensive properties are the smart buys where NRAS is concerned, if you want to build a property portfolio that will enable you to grow your wealth/portfolio more aggressively. Cash flow is just as important as equity, where borrowing is concerned. This is also why I think Firstmac should be your first call for NRAS, as they accept 100% of the NRAS incentive for servicing. Other NRAS lenders do not. This may not affect your capacity to borrow on the first NRAS purchase you make, but if you have several properties or wish to own several, every dollar you can use towards servicing makes an enormous difference.

Also remember that you need a 20% deposit for NRAS, not a 10% like conventional investment property. Remember that you have significantly higher holding costs in the first year, because you have to cover the 20% of rent you are sacrificing, and cover the interest repayments, and cover the additional legal and loan costs associated with purchasing NRAS property. Make sure you borrow that money as part of your loan.

This scheme is an opportunity to build some extremely effective cash flow into your portfolio. Remember this above all else - you're going to make a minimum 140-160K tax free out of any NRAS property, before any neg gearing and depreciation is factored in (which could be 10-12K back from the tax man annually for ten years, depending on your circumstances) No matter what price you pay for it, and no matter whether it appreciates in value or not... you get exactly the same NRAS incentive, so theres no need to chase capital gain. Why pay for a 500K property and get little or no cash flow from the scheme, when you could buy 2 x 250K properties and pocket 2 x NRAS incentives annually? The 500K property may double in value in 10 years and net you 500K profit. The two less expensive properties may only net you 300-350K in growth, but they've also netted you an extra 140-160K, and you havent had to put your hand in your pocket beyond the first year, so you've probably bought 2 or 3 other NRAS properties by then , too...netting you a further 140-160K tax free, plus any capital growth.
I don't believe NRAS properties should be purchased for capital gain exclusively. NRAS properties are perfect for a portfolio that needs cash flow. 2 or 3 NRAS properties purchased over the next couple of years would allow an investor to then add a low yielding, more premium, capital gain focused property to their portfolio... and they would have the cashflow to handle it.
So really, at the end of the day...NRAS is so incredibly powerful because of the cash flow it generates for you after the first full financial year of ownership. The less expensive the property, the more powerful the cash flow becomes. The secret to buying NRAS is getting through the holding costs in the first year, which also makes the less expensive properties a smarter option for people who dont have big incomes or mature property investment experience.
At the upper end (500K properties renting at $400 per week under NRAS) you really need about 25K-30K to cover all your holding costs in year one, until you get your returns done and get the NRAS incentive. Then you need about 3K per year out of your own pocket.
At the 350K-440K range, where properties will rent for about $300-350 per week under NRAS) you probably only need about 15-16K in the first year, and they are cash flow positive from year 2 onwards.
At the 280-350K range you probably only need about 12-13K in the first year, and they are most definitely cash flow positive from year two onwards. They will add about 5K per year to your income ( and the beauty is- its untaxed, because its coming via the NRAS incentive) You'll have to take my word for it that those figures are in the "ballpark" for accuracy, as I've done the modeling on dozens of NRAS properties in many different locations.
The bottom line is that between your deductions and the NRAS incentive, you should easily see yourself cash flow positive from year two onwards on almost all NRAS properties... but most definitely on those priced below the 440K sweet spot. The further below that price point, the better. So after year one, you should have little or no holding costs whatsoever. That's when you buy the next one :)
In 3 or 4 years time, you'll have a beautiful, cash flow positive portfolio of 3 or 4 different NRAS properties, ticking along nicely... and in ten years time, when they've earned you 140-160K tax free each, plus at least 90-100K in tax deductions each, you wont be worrying about the fact you didn't buy the more expensive property in the trendier area, with the better capital growth potential. The person who bought that will have loads of capital gain, but they will still be working away on getting the cash flow to make the equity work for them. You'll be sitting very pretty, having put your hand in your pocket for very little money, while still enjoying hundreds of thousands of dollars of tax benefits...and thinking about what you'll do now that you are sitting on some solid equity, with powerful cash flow.
 
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where to buy NRAS PROPERTY

I am ne to this forum and property investing. First of all my understnding id the Fed Goverment portion of the 9000 is indexed to CPI. I have been told by several NRAS sprukers that the Tas goverment is fiddling with this scheme to use it for state housing so I would do research on that market.

I am looking at this in Victoria and would like people thoughts on buying in the following areas as they are all sub $300,000 area.

I am lookin at Baccus Marsh, Ballarat and Bendigo. My question is as follows.
Does anyone have an opinion on which of these areas they would choose or advice on how they woulg go about researching which ones my perform better over 10 years?
 
Hi Euro73

Can you tell who are those participants and lenders in WA.

About 100% borrowing, i'm not sure i quite understand how this works. I am in the process of changing my PPOR into IP. Do you mean there is no need for me to use the small portion of equity that i have. No LVR and how about LMI?
 
Please mention the Rent, you have to rent it 20% below market value, I ran figures on this and worked out on like for like from a standard buy house and Rent and NRAS by end of year 5 your worse off. Then when you go to sell it you can only sell it to a investor. Also banks are coming around to them at the moment but majority do stear away or require a less LVR. Also find out what the PM fees are

This subject has been discussed a few times, if your on the highest tax bracket and not keen on doing any research they would suit you fine.

Jezza


How can you be worse off Jezza????
 
Hi Euro73

Can you tell who are those participants and lenders in WA.

About 100% borrowing, i'm not sure i quite understand how this works. I am in the process of changing my PPOR into IP. Do you mean there is no need for me to use the small portion of equity that i have. No LVR and how about LMI?

Westpac, StG and firstmac will all lend in WA.

The biggest NRAS particpants in WA are Questus and Quantum Housing. Urban Affordable Housing Association also has some WA NRAS stock, as does Yaran Investments
http://www.quantumhousing.com.au/
http://questus.com.au/?page_id=192
http://www.urbanaffordablehousing.com/properties-for-sale/western-australia?
http://www.yaran.com.au/for-sale-now


100% finance requires that you secure 15% or 20% (plus costs, and a cash buffer) against one property, and 80%-85% ( st george and westpac lend to 85LVR) against another. Please keep in mind that westpac and st george charge LMI above 70%, so if you want to avoid LMI up to 80%, use firstmac.
https://www.firstmac.com.au/Pages/Easy-Livez-NRAS-loan.aspx
 
Euro the guru
what would be the best head lease? to get if going through with a NRAS?
i read there was something like 15?

any chance of a quick pro/con list?
 
Euro the guru
what would be the best head lease? to get if going through with a NRAS?
i read there was something like 15?

any chance of a quick pro/con list?


Head Lease Agreement's are dinosaurs now. The consortiums that operate them may think they are the best thing since sliced bread but only 2 of the 137 NRAS Consortiums still use them ( QAHC -Queensland Affordable Housing Consortium, and BHC - Brisbane Housing Company) . They're cumbersome and I'd avoid them unless you REALLY want a particular property where a Consortium that operates a Head Lease Agreement for NRAS, holds the NRAS entitlement. Two main reasons why I say that.

1. Simply because the Head Lease models are all Qld based, which means tenants are selected by the Qld Government and you have little or no say in the selection of tenants and Property Management arrangements. Qld is the only state where the State Govt determines tenant lists. Every other state keeps their nose out of it and allows the private sector ie real estate agents/property managers to find tenants and facilitate property management. - although the exceptions to this are the 60 odd Community Housing and not for profit consortiums such as Mission Australia etc ( they will use their "client base" as tenants and they will do the property management - no thanks) but this is only a problem if you purchase an NRAS property where they hold the entitlement. Hint- dont :)

Dont let what I typed panic you. Most of those community/Not for profit groups dont make their NRAS approved stock available to you and I anyway- they keep it for their own use. And besides, they are TINY players. yes there may be 60 plus of them , but they each hold only a very small number of NRAS entitlements. The big 12 "for profits" hold about 70% of all NRAS entitlements. PM me and I'll take you through who's who and who's got what.

Now, to the 2nd reason to avoid Head Lease models. Did I mention the Head Lease models are Queensland based? Queensland unfortunately equals oversupply at the moment in most areas, which unfortunately equals valuation tsunami's of horror and woe and terrible inconsistency on new development stock in most areas. And NRAS is new development stock so it gets caught up in the mess. Qld is of course the land of the property marketer/spruiker, a strange beast that believes a fee of 30-40K is fair remuneration for selling a property. Post GFC and post 27C, unfortunately valuers dont agree.

This is of course a general observation based on , well... having seen hundreds of NRAS deals in Qld and around the country. And like all general observations there are some exceptions. i.e I'm aware of a small number of Qld developments where the valuations are solid, but they are so few and far between I don't have the kind of inclination required any longer, to tell people about them. Its just easier to say that Qld is to be avoided in 99% of cases :) And in particular, South East Queensland. Brisbane is MASSIVELY oversupplied with 2 and 3 bedroom units now and for the next 2 years, and house and land packages are MASSIVELY oversupplied almost everywhere else, in the areas north, north west, west, south west and south of Brisbane. Im afraid that anyone talking up SE Qld at the moment is in denial of essential mathematical and economic facts lol

Dont believe me? Just for ***** and giggles, put a holding deposit down on any Qld new stock ( doesnt need to be NRAS- any new stock will just about do- unless you fluke it with one of the exceptions I mentioned earlier lol) and have a val ordered... then write back to me and tell me whether it comes in 40K under or 60K under.

Other than that I think Qld is a tremendous place - its just oversupplied and overpriced right now in most cases, so gotta wait for the supply to get soaked up first, and for marketers to take a haircut on their fees before it bounces back in any meaningful way.

So those are my reasons for avoiding the Head Lease consortiums, I guess;
Expensive NRAS fees and overpriced stock ( or undervaluing, whichever you prefer to use as a description)


So my advice would be this - buy NRAS ( or non NRAS) outside Qld - (if you have to have Qld, PM me and I'll direct you to those rare exceptions I'm aware of which will actually value well, have NRAS and are priced under 350K)

Otherwise I can tell you that VIC has some good valuing stock. Not the Off The Plan stuff that is due for completion in 12-18 months which will "do a Brisbane" and also value at least 60K under because of the oversupply arriving there in 2014 ( a minimum 15,000 2 and 3 bedders to come online over the next 2 years, just in the city and inner suburbs of Melbourne) but some good ,completed, humble sub 350K 2 bedders in working class areas of Melbourne, plus some pretty good stock in Ballarat, Bendigo, etc. And Adelaide has a few little gems. WA NRAS is generally valuing badly, and Sydney has basically got little or no NRAS at the moment.

Wherever you go and whatever you look at with NRAS- try and stick with a consortium using a Non Entity Joint Venture as they are cleaner, cheaper and just all around easier.
 
Hi Euro, I have a question I hope you can answer.

I'm told that it is not possible to refinance an NRAS property in order to access any CG equity, if any, later on down the track, say in 2-5 years. Do you know if this is true?
 
NRAS has a lower LVR limit meaning you need to put more in to be able to get it but surely you could refinance if theres banks that lead for it then tehres nothing stopping you refinancing with them, just means you wouldnt be able to refinance to a high LVR to get lots of equity out
 
Hi Euro, I have a question I hope you can answer.

I'm told that it is not possible to refinance an NRAS property in order to access any CG equity, if any, later on down the track, say in 2-5 years. Do you know if this is true?

Absolutely incorrect. I'm glad you asked. :) Unfortunately this is yet another false claim about NRAS. The majority of lenders who accept NRAS as security allow all their normal lending policies to apply, with just a couple of exceptions;
1. The NRAS consortium that you are entering the property into the scheme with, must be approved by them. This is a requirement for all NRAS lenders.
2. The discounted rental income must be used for servicing. Also a requirement of all NRAS lenders.
3. the NRAS tax entitlements cant be used for servicing - Adelaide Bank and Firstmac are the exceptions to this. They both allow it to 80% LVR. All other NRAS lenders do NOT allow it.
4. Head Lease Agreements require mortgage insurance above 70% LVR instead of the normal 80% at Westpac, ST George, Rams, bank SA. For all other NRAS lenders, Head Lease agreement NRAS is ok to 80% without LMI.
 
NRAS has a lower LVR limit meaning you need to put more in to be able to get it but surely you could refinance if theres banks that lead for it then tehres nothing stopping you refinancing with them, just means you wouldnt be able to refinance to a high LVR to get lots of equity out

Sorry- also incorrect I'm afraid :) Even after all my posts about this over the past couple of years, it seems people are still really still confused about NRAS and lenders... So, once again.

LMI coverage to 90% plus capitalised LMI is available. Genworth offers this policy. They have offered it for over 18 months. Not every lender uses it, but here's an overview of who does what. It may be a little out of date- I havent checked on these lists for a few weeks , but this was accurate as of 4 weeks ago.

Westpac, STG, Rams, Bank SA, Adelaide Bank. go to 90% + LMI for these models.
Affordable Management Corporation Non Entity Joint Venture
Affordable Housing Consulting NEJV
Aspire Housing NEJV
Questus NEJV via Managed Investment Scheme
Quantum Housing NEJV
Ethan Affordable Housing NEJV
Yaran Residential NEJV
Canberra Community Housing NEJV
Providence Housing NEJV
Crown Property NEJV
**QAHC ( their non head lease model only. Please note- QAHC runs 2 different models. Their original/older Head Lease model is only able to be funded to 85% LVR, and LMI is applied to that model above 70% LVR. )
**Brisbane Housing Company - Head Lease agreement. max LVR is 85% LMI applies above 70% LVR


FirstMac has 9 of the models approved, to 80%.

ANZ has the same list as above approved to 80% also.

NAB has 5 approved to 80%.

resimac has 5 approved to 90%

BOQ has 6 approved to 90% plus LMI.

Wide bay building society has 6 approved to 90% plus LMI.

The Rock building society has 5 approved to 80% LVR

Members Equity has 6 or 7 approved to 90% LVR

Mission Australia NEJV. The latest model, just approved by Genworth LMI. Awaiting lender approvals. I would assume it will be 90% plus LMI, like all other NEJV models.

I've probably missed a couple of lenders- but you get the idea. The bottom line is - there are several good lending options available across a variety of LVR's and lenders. So when people who think they know NRAS try and what's what about refinances and lower LVR's in future, tell them you know what you're talking about and they dont :)
 
Resimac is the only lender that doesn't allow construction, that I'm aware of.

All the others allow it as far as I'm aware

Firstmac has some restrictions around some regional construction for NRAS

Adelaide ONLY does construction - oddly they wont do anything else- ie Off The Plan , units, townhouses etc. It's an odd policy, given that only @8000 of the 40,550 NRAS incentives so far awarded for rounds 1,2,3 and 4 are allocated for house and land packages.

FYI Open the July report. Page 5

http://www.fahcsia.gov.au/our-respo...al-affordability-scheme-performance-reporting
 
We are proceeding to settlement on our first NRAS, we are buying in WA and are borrowing through Firstmac, they have made it all very easy and were great to talk to.
 
Carol in Perth

How long did it take between signing and settlement? Did you but off the plan or a finished property?

We are still undecided on buying an NRAS.
I have read the threads on buying OTP - which has me a little concerned. The sunset cluse thing. Can you have these problems with NRAS too?
 
I have read the threads on buying OTP - which has me a little concerned. The sunset cluse thing. Can you have these problems with NRAS too?

It depends on how it's structured. If you are relying on the developer to build for you then it has similar risks to a normal OTP. If you are buying the land and constructing it yourself then it becomes a normal construction loan which means you are in full control of timeframe etc.
 
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