Well done Joe Hockey

So the bloke on the team that has squealed about every move the govt has made cut middle-class welfare, sees means testing as sort of financial apartheid, introduced and supports a cash payment for the act of reproduction and wants to introduce a billion dollar paid parental leave scheme is "condemning" an entitlement mentality.

Here's Phil Coorey's reply, in the SMH.

The problem for Hockey, as TF points out, is that the Liberal Party have opposed every measure to cut back on middle class welfare, and therefore reduce the entitlement mentality. He was a minister in a governmentr that introduced so many new welfare programs in the first place.

The following, IMHO, is spot on.

The shadow treasurer singled out compulsory superannuation as an example of easing the burden on the state.

"Over the years, governments have worked to reduce the exposure of the government to our pension system with the compulsory superannuation contribution program which means that people are contributing to their own pension rather than everyone relying on the government for the pension."

No mention that the Coalition opposed compulsory superannuation when Paul Keating introduced it and, most recently, it voted against lifting the rate from 9 percentage points to 12 as part of the mining tax package.

The Howard government, while reducing personal taxes consistently, also took the entitlement mentality to new heights with the raft of so-called middle class welfare measures it introduced and which Labor has been paring back.

Hockey did concede that his criticism that entitlments in western democracies were "fuelled by short-term electoral cycles and the political outbidding of your opponent'' applied to the programs set up under the Howard government


It will be interesting to see what Abbott says.
 
The best government assistance is gainful employment.

Though big nanny governments would bankrupt the private sector trying to provide public sector employment with public service conditions, let alone gainful employment.
 
We know you vote Labor dan. Good for you. :)

$50 Lesson (Ithought you might appreciate this one)


Recently, while I was working in the flower beds in the front yard, my neighbors stopped to chat as they returned home from walking their dog.

During our friendly conversation, I asked their 12 year old daughter what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be Prime Minister some day.

Both of her parents – Socialist Labor- were standing there, so I asked her, "If you were Prime Minister what would be the first thing you would do?"

She replied, "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people." Her parents beamed with pride!

"Wow! what a worthy goal!" I said. "But you don't have to wait until you're Prime Minister to do that!" I told her.

"What do you mean?" she replied.

So I told her, "You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and trim my hedge, and I'll pay you $50. Then you can go over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."

She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

I said, "Welcome to the Liberal Party."

Her parents aren't speaking to me. ;)
 
Nice one Redwing.....


I'm gathering, like most things, that seen from the outer, it is extremely easy to criticize when you look at "the game" from the sidelines and your neck isn't on the chopping block.

As soon as you start to get closer, all sorts of factors come into play that complicate matters.....competing priorities for one.


We used to have a saying in the oilfield which was always very relevant during stuck pipe incidents and a fishing operation was required....

"A person's bravery is inversely proportional to the distance from the problem."​


I used to see that on a daily basis - the boys in the office would come up with all sorts of wacky pathetic ideas that would cost alot of money and ultimately fail. As soon as you are standing right there on the rig floor next to the enormous problem, your suggestions become somewhat guarded to fix the problem....else you look like a royal goose.


Not 100% sure, but sitting in Perth or Cairns or Hobart criticising Federal politicians and their decision making must be similar.....seems to be a national pastime lately, as to being front and centre in the House of Reps where the cut and thrust of action takes place.....and you've got microphones and cameras and spotlights shoved in your face, with your opposition itching to tear you apart no matter what is said. Different ball of wax then.
 
Nice one Redwing.....

We used to have a saying in the oilfield which was always very relevant during stuck pipe incidents and a fishing operation was required....

"A person's bravery is inversely proportional to the distance from the problem."​

Just had one of these the other day and it was easy discussing what they should be doing amongst the surveyors.
 
Australia is largely made of whingers and whiners mixed in with a good dose of losers. Lets be honest, if you want to work in Aus and really make a life for yourself, there are plenty of jobs out there that would see you carving out a nice existence. Of course the other side of the coin (asia) where you are cast aside if you have no skills/sick/disabled/old is hardly attractive. Having a safety net to support those truly in needs sets us apart from our northern cousins but the sense of entitlement of many of us, the inability to see how good we have it here and the lack of people to make the most of the vast opportunities in Aus makes me long for a big shake up to the existing way of life.
On what do you draw your conclusions on asia? In asia the old are respected and revered, every-one looks after every-one else, if some-one has food or alcohol or whatever and some-one doesnt it is shared. Because they realise the next day the situation could be reversed. Jobs are rotated so every-one gets the chance to have some employment during the year. The whole culture is based on responsibility to looking after one another, not making judgement, self sacrifice and to respect and care for older people and those less fotunate. They understand it is not the governments responsibility to look after them, it is their responsibility to look after each other. It is australia where the old and sick are cast aside , put in a nursing home and let the government look after them. Last year I had to snatch my mother in law in from a USA nursing home as the standard of care there was appalling , they drugged her up feed her crappy fried food and collected thousands of dollars a week from DSS to do it. With in weeks of sending her to asia she went from being a vegetable to being normal. Also if somebody is facing a calamity the equivalant of the mayor can grant money, There are housing scheme to help the poor, medical clinics with in walking distance for a lot of people. Here a lot of towns dont have a doctor some people have to travel hours for medical help. There are alot of foregeniers retiring in asia, because they are treated with respect and care. In a cue younger people will wait til the older person is served in the west in some cases they will be shunned or ignored.
 
So the bloke on the team that has squealed about every move the govt has made cut middle-class welfare, sees means testing as sort of financial apartheid, introduced and supports a cash payment for the act of reproduction and wants to introduce a billion dollar paid parental leave scheme is "condemning" an entitlement mentality.

This is the equivalent of the Columbian drug barons condemning cocaine use.

Interesting defence though put up today of Joe's underlying rationality by Michael Pascoe here -

Is Joe Hockey starting his run for the Liberal Party leadership and, therefore, the Lodge? Or maybe the run just became more obvious as he goes where Tony Abbott hasn't: into the realm of Liberal economic responsibility.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/run-joe-run-20120420-1xau4.html#ixzz1sX8pyEjT
 
Interesting defence though put up today of Joe's underlying rationality by Michael Pascoe here -



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/run-joe-run-20120420-1xau4.html#ixzz1sX8pyEjT

Go Joe! :)

Is Joe Hockey starting his run for the Liberal Party leadership and, therefore, the Lodge? Or maybe the run just became more obvious as he goes where Tony Abbott hasn't: into the realm of Liberal economic responsibility......

Don't forget that Tony Abbott is only the Leader of the Opposition and an election from the Lodge because Hockey refused to put up his hand against his then leader, Malcolm Turnbull. Loyalty and all that.

Yes Michael Pascoe, it had crossed my mind too.

It's Big Joe who doesn't mind pointing out the inanity of Barry O'Farrell's opposition to a second Sydney Airport, who isn't all the way with General Motors, who can see the cost of maternity leave payments that are the opposite of means tested (better payments for the better off), who is happy to have a slap at the welfare system instead of gilding it. Slugger Abbott is still out telling every interest group whatever it wants to hear, along with the threat that everyone will be jobless as soon as the carbon tax starts.

Joe Hockey can't make a speech about entitlement mentality without implicitly attacking Abbott's grandiose maternity leave policy. And he can't look remotely credible proposing a budget that includes Abbott's promises of lower revenue, lower debt, lower taxes and increased spending on pet projects after Swan trims much of the available fat ahead of him – particularly if Abbott predictably attacks whatever Swan does that offends any existing "entitlements". The rampant middle class welfare of the John Howard past and the promised Tony Abbott future don't fit with Canberra's bi-partisan surplus mantra.

I was wondering when the move was coming...
 
Curious and curiouser. We've also got Turnbull coming out with a rationalist critique of the latter Howard era -

Mr Turnbull's view challenges the Coalition's formal position that it was its economic management that produced its repeated budget surpluses.

Mr Turnbull believes the Coalition should have banked much more of the income from the mining boom, perhaps by putting it in a wealth fund managed by the Future Fund.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...ic-mistakes-20120419-1xa2d.html#ixzz1sXI1jcKa

Perhaps Abbott's use-by date is coming up after all?
 
Yeah, I've been following (and commenting:p) Malcolm on his media, there has been something building for a while, subtle but real. It's no surprise to anyone I've spoken to (local and state political people) last few days. Was always going to be not if, but 'when'. I'm just interested to see how it unravels. So far we have both strategy and tactics.
 
Wow some spin doctors trying to concoct a relationship challenge from a few comments about economic policy.

Spin doctors??

The question is, why has Hockey made these comments now, after two years of falling into line with Abbott's plans.

Go back and have a look at what Hockey said after the last budget. His comments a few days ago are at odds with his budget remarks, and at odds with Abbott's policy re: welfare payments.
 
Where is Malcolm?

Interesting question. Last I saw, very prominently displayed across the cover of 'The Monthly' journal re an interview with Robert Manne. (You know, the same magazine that published Swan's widely-discussed broadside against billionaire 'vested interests' recently?) Mmmmm???
 
Well it's been a month since the Labor Leadership spill filled plenty of column inches for the journalists.

Editorial meeting with team of journo's.....come on team, what are you going to write about this month ??

Scratching of heads.....silence, shoe shuffling....

I know, young Ralphus pipes up from the back of the room - how about we run a story about a Liberal Leadership spill ??

Has it got any legs ??

Who cares - let's run with it and give it some legs....never know what will come of it.

Great idea - get it out there.

Phew -that's this month done.....what about next month ??

Greens Leadership spill ??

Hmmm, haven't had one of those since Apr 2012. Sounds good, let's run with that.
 
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