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The question all Do-Gooders need to ask themselves is : If these 2 had not been caught would they have continued to traffic, profit and climb the Cartel ladder? If you are honest with yourself the answer is YES! If they had seriously cared for their families and to that themselves, why did...

Don't hold your breathe! It appears all legal channels have been exhausted, and President Widodo will not grant clemency. Not a surprise really. Tonight on Lateline there is to be an interview with an Indonesian lawyer/ parliamentarian (not sure which) who is to outline why Indonesia will not...

You don't paint a pretty picture Datto! Lol.

My Compassion goes to the Innocent not the Guilty.

There are several thousand INNOCENT dead people in Nepal. Why are we focusing on 2 GUILTY Drug Smugglers in Java?

Yes , as you and I both know there are no guarantees in life. You try to do the best you can but in the end they make their own decisions. Sadly for their loved-ones it has been the wrong path.

Exactly. This pair would still be in operation if they hadn't been caught. They had no consideration for their own lives or those around them. That is why now their parents are feeling the pain.

There are many different levels of crime. Getting away with it doesn't make it right. By your analogy those that have raped and murdered children should get a slap on the wrist. They new what they were doing, and the consequences. Don't cry sookysooklala when you get caught!

Quite probably the people that are feeling the most pain at the moment are the 2 Men's parents. They would be asking themselves "Where did we go wrong?" Entering the world of Drug Trafficking was going to turn bad eventually. Looks like now it has all caught up with them. No-one knows how...

I think you are confusing me with another poster. I was a butcher for over 30 years. Sure my kids did things wrong but nothing so terrible to now be facing execution.

As a parent of two daughters and one son, all in their twenties I would hope to have my finger on the pulse and be able to see well in advance the destructive path they are embarking on. I can agree that this is not always possible. If in your hypothetical case my daughter was arrested for Drug...

You either believe they are telling the truth or telling lies. You can't have it both ways. I believe they are liars amongst other things, and that their days are numbered. Not informing on the Kingpins was weak on their behalf, as this once again displayed their selfishness. Trying to justify...

And your making the statement that what they said is true. They have lied continually from their initial arrest, surely you can't be this gullible. Why do you believe them? And please don't answer by saying they said sorry so all should be forgiven.

I don't think they've fooled the Indonesians, that's why they are going to be shot.

So just wondering how many chances should this pair have been given? Some people just don't learn from their mistakes. Lie upon lie doesn't demonstrate remorse or rehabilitation to me.

What I was simply saying was that they will use anything at their disposal to avoid being shot. Have they not lied in the past? What makes you believe them now?

They have lied from day 1, including the statement that Family members may come into harm if they reveal the names of the Kingpins. They are facing execution, they are going to say anything to try and help their cause. Like I said it wasn't a one off. If they had gotten away with it they would...

This statement would hold way more weight if it was a one off offence they'd committed. However, we know that to not be the case, and for some reason they won't give up the names of the Kingpins. To me that that doesn't appear remorseful or helpful. Call them for what they are: Manipulative...

The analogy you have used between a dog and these two pieces of garbage is ridiculous, and I don't believe you sincerely believe it. You opened your post by saying they were wrong, and yes they were. Is the punishment too severe, not in the eyes of the Indonesians. Nor mine. Seriously, do you...

Fair comment. However if the supply chain was cut off, maybe just maybe more addicts would be alive. We as a global partner seriously need to get to the top of the tree and bring the kingpins down. Addicts are weak, no denying that, but they can't shoot up without the product.