Blood Donors

I just rang the Red Cross in NSW to tell them that I will no longer be donating if the government impmlements its change to the distrubtion of blood to private hospitals.

The lady at the end of the line said "Yes sir, you and 10,000 other people won'y be donating".

Seems like this incompetant government has screwed up again.:mad:
 
Based on an admittedly very brief bit of research into this issue - as I hadn't heard about it before - they're talking about bringing in $8M from this measure, in the context of an $11,200M health budget.

Even if the measures were completely fair and equitable (and I'm really not getting it), it doesn't seem worth annoying so many potential donors over such a (relatively) tiny amount of money!

And I wouldn't be remotely surprised if it costs nearly $8M to administer a new system for cost recovery, anyway.

Sure sounds like a bad decision on face value...
 
I assumed that all blood donated through the public system went to public hospitals anyway. The public system has to pay for their blood so why shouldn't private hospitals? Why should the public health system keep propping up the private system when it doesn't have enough funding in the first place. If the private system can't be self sufficient and exist without government funds and services then it should be allowed to die a natural death. There is absolutely no need for a private health system in this country.

Sounds completely fair to me.

If individuals choose not to donate blood, that's their prerogative. Good luck to them if one day they find themselves or a family member needs blood and there is none available.
 
I'm with Natmarie.

Why should public hospitals pay for blood and not private hospitals?

That hardly seems fair - public hospitals are so far underfunded as it is, they need every dollar they can get.
Marg
 
I agree too - why shouldn't all hospitals have to pay?

Being a long term blood & more recently plasma donor, I couldnt care less whether my donation goes to a public or private hospital - all I care about is that it helps someone - wherever & whoever they are!

Unless I am missing something here there is nothing in this news to make me want to stop helping people who need the blood/plasma.

Cheers
Stella
 
Heh! yes, my "universal donor" blood is given unconditionally too. :)

Also, just a reminder, as with private schools, private hossies take quite a bit of pressure of the (public school) and hospital systems...room in this big bed of love for everyone...

It is in the government's best interest to prop (a little) or rather support in someway or other...private hospitals (and schools), but of course there are costs on blood services, it is just catching up in the public and private systems..

Most important thing is we do share our blood and organs around if we do so choose. :)
 
There is absolutely no need for a private health system in this country.

mmm...

in 2006/2007 25,696 joint replacements (hips and knees were done publicly in Australia.

In the same period 39,848 were done privately.

Thats 39,848 people who were glad to have a private health system.

People who can afford to pay for health care should. There is no way that the public system could cope with the health needs of this country. I'm glad you are not involved in health care planning.

Cheers
Pulse
 
in 2006/2007 25,696 joint replacements (hips and knees were done publicly in Australia.

In the same period 39,848 were done privately.
Yes, but if there were no private health system, presumably the vast majority of the doctors (and nurses etc) who currently work in the private system would be in the public system instead.

Our system may not be perfect, but gosh, it's better than most, and vastly better than the USA! Obviously delivering quality universal health care is not easy, or more countries would have done a better job of it.
 
Yes, but if there were no private health system, presumably the vast majority of the doctors (and nurses etc) who currently work in the private system would be in the public system instead.


Ah, but they already are. Many specialist "private" doctors also run clinics in public hospitals as well, and the majority of nurses these days are agency nurses who work in whatever hospital they get sent to.

Like you said, if there was no private system, all the doctors and nurses would work in the public system (full time) and provide more and better medical care to everybody, not just those who can afford to pay for it.

I agree it's not easy to provide a good quality, free healthcare system, but Sweden, Norway, Holland can do it so why can't we?
 
We already do. It's called "Medicare Levy".

And the more we can afford it, the more we pay.

GP

And don't forget that people who pay for private health get a nice little rebate that is picked up by the rest the taxpayers as well. So the private system is in actual fact, partly funded by taxpayers, much like private schools.

If there was only one healthcare system everyone would get timely, quality healthcare at a reasonable cost because public funds and resources would no longer be diverted to the private system.
 
I don't really know how the public system would cope if both public and private hospital systems were amalgamated. There are so many stories of excessive waiting lists for the public system, that I cannot see how that would change. I don't think the private system doctors and nurses are sitting around drinking lattes waiting for their next customer.

However, what gets up my nose is people like an acquaintance of mine, who is fully covered for private care, but makes sure she uses the public system, clogging up the system, and paying zippo.

We all know that even with full health insurance, there are gap fees and private health insurance cover only covers a (usually large) portion, but the gap still leaves a hole in our pockets. With having had three babies through the private system and a family of five, I would not be game to ditch private health cover, specially if one of us had to wait a year or two for a procedure that could be done next week through the private system.

The other thing that gets up my nose is that this same friend whinges about how my family of five get private health cover for double what she pays as a single. Yet she has used more health services on just herself than my family has used in our whole lives. But she thinks life is unfair.

I wonder if she ever thinks about the poor old pensioner who has to wait yet another week for a hip replacement because she (with full private health cover) is taking up that person's rightful place in a bed???? She even hit up a local pollie to get her a lift to the hospital!! I bet she didn't mention she has full private cover.

Same person complains about everything, so I should not really be surprised. Also doesn't like paying for a whole room when she travels. I try to tell her to try having to book two rooms to fit a family in.

Truth is, we don't live on a level playing field, and life is all "swings and roundabouts". Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose.
 
Yes, but if there were no private health system, presumably the vast majority of the doctors (and nurses etc) who currently work in the private system would be in the public system instead.

I think the issue is funding here. You don't get twice the doctors and nurses for the same price...

Two tiered health is hard to get right. The UK stuffed up by killing private. I've hear that a Polish surgeon employed in the UK to do waiting list reduction did about 40 hip replacements without the required cement... he wasn't familiar with it and couldn't understand english well enough to read the manuals. These will need revision surgery within a few months.

The opposite problem is the US where a small proportion of people use too much health care money while the poor have inadequate access to health.

The best system is where the same doctors work in both.. as they do here, and the prople who can pay do, while free care is provided (and rationed with a waiting list) to everyone else.

When people say you don't need private here I think they mean the public does a good job which is true. But is we all relied on it, it wouldn't be able to cope.


Cheers
Pulse
 
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