Finance Question

Hello All,

Sorry for jumping in asking a question first up.

My husband and I have recently returned from overseas and are looking to purchase a new family home.

We don't have a great deal of savings and had been planning on saving for at least another six months. We have already had the first home owners grant back in 2002.

We both earn good money ($110k each) and now have $10k in the bank (we are saving $1k each week).

As it happens we have found the perfect home and really want to put in an offer. However, we will be short on the deposit by around $10k and it will take another 10 weeks to get this. Asking price is $380k.

Is it possible to get loan approval with the only condition on getting the rest of the deposit? Ideally we don't want to have a long (10 week) conditional period until we can go unconditional, we would want to put in an offer and pay $10k cash deposit subject to finance in say 3 weeks. Bank gives conditional approval subject to deposit, no other conditions. We then go unconditional and have a settlement period that allows us to save the necessary deposit etc.

Next issue is stamp duty. Do we need to have evidence of this to get approval? Not sure if we can stretch the seller out that long so we would most likely look to borrow this if at all possible, but once we have the finance sorted.

We have good credit, both been in our current jobs for 12 months and in the same industries for 5 years plus. 1 credit card and a car loan.

Appreciate any feedback.

Many Thanks

S
 
Hi Spidey

You might find someone that will do what you want.

In general, id shy away from this transaction as a broker, because the risks to you the borrower of not being able to complete are quite high, and therefore the risk of financial loss of the deposit and further costs are way out there.

Almost all lenders that I know will want to see funds to complete incl stamps.

There are a number of things you can do with the stamps, but the initial deposit ( and with some the genuine savings of 5 %) I dont believe you will get around at this stage.

Still, someone may do it for you

ta
rolf
 
Spidey,

I think you are best off saving first for the deposit, then start looking for finance. Atm you need at least 10% of the property value to pay stamp duty and minimum deposit. Do not make any unconditional offer because it will most likely end up in tears.

Best of luck with it.
 
In short- no, the lender will need to see the fund to complete (ie the funds) in your account or in term deposit etc, before they give approval.

+ it sounds like your short quite a bit... stamp duty, another cost + 5% deposit. :eek:

Taken Arron's advice, go back to the old fashion save and then re apply later, yes it;s a shame to let this place go but eventually you will find another one you like.

Regards
Michael
 
We both earn good money ($110k each) and now have $10k in the bank (we are saving $1k each week).

....

Appreciate any feedback.

Seeing as you asked for *any* feedback..........

You'd be clearing after tax close to $14k per month.
You are able to save about $4k.

Where's the other $10k going :confused:


The Y-man
 
Thanks for all your feedback, especially Rolf, Aaron_C, and Mick C. We have told the agent that we will need to take a step back and if the property is still for sale in a couple of months we can take another look. We did speak to our bank and they basically said the same thing - no chance of even processing the application without the deposit.

Seeing as you asked for *any* feedback..........

You'd be clearing after tax close to $14k per month.
You are able to save about $4k.

Where's the other $10k going :confused:


The Y-man

Those figures include super so it's more like $12k per month.
$4k for rent
$1k for car
$4k for savings
$3k Living

I know, rent is way to high but inner city rents are ridiculous.

You didn't save much overseas?

We purchased an investment property just prior to the GFC, this has dropped in value so unfortunately we are in a position where is it is worth less than is owing on it. It almost pays for itself so we are happy to ride that one out.
 
We purchased an investment property just prior to the GFC, this has dropped in value so unfortunately we are in a position where is it is worth less than is owing on it. It almost pays for itself so we are happy to ride that one out.

You never know you may have some usable equity sitting there - the market has improved since GFC...+ another valuer/banks value is slightly diff.

Dont know what ur numbers are like- but you could do a small equity release paying some LMI - enough for the 5% deposit + stamp duty...and then apply for a new 95% + LMI loan?


Regards
Michael
 
$1k on the car - get rid of it, you live inner city. Complete waste of coin.
Find an apartment for a year at half the rent you pay now, tough it up and save your butts off. You could have a cracking deposit in that time (and may not need that long).

You are spending too much money if you want to save for and purchase a house.
 
Here's a really easy barometer to see if you can afford a mortgage...

A) Figure out what the loan will cost you, assume rates are 1.5% higher than they currently are. Get a monthly figure.

B) Add the rent you're currently paying to the amount of money you're currently saving. Take this on a monthly basis.

If B is higher than A, you can afford a mortgage, otherwise you can't.

If you beleive that you can increase B, then why aren't you already doing it? If you can do it consistantly for 3 months you're fine, until then it's just speculation.
 
Those figures include super so it's more like $12k per month.
$4k for rent
$1k for car
$4k for savings
$3k Living

I know, rent is way to high but inner city rents are ridiculous.



.

Before too many people jumpt to conclusions - do you have kids in the mix?

The Y-man
 
$3k living expenses is where the easiest fat to trim is, and can you afford to sell the car and buy something smaller and more appropriate to living inner city? You'll need to make some real sacrifices if this place is really 'the one'
 
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