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Hi all, I have been increasingly alarmed at the number of inquiries into my credit history. At the best of times, lenders are seeing me as heavily geared and a high risk taker when in fact I'm not. The problem has been that in the course of my investing life, I have bought six properties either as sole buyer or with someone else. In that time, I've also sold two. I've refinanced to four different lenders. Ergo, the hyper active appearance of my credit reference. On my last refinance, I took my loans from National to St George Bank. Prior to settlement, I asked my NAB banker if they'd be happy to keep my loans active, and I'll give them the sum of money from St George as a term deposit. The term deposit will secure the loans. Happily enough National agreed. The point being I won't have to apply for another loan when I find new properties to buy, all I have to do is request National for another round of substitution of security. With term deposit, the LVR is dollar for dollar. But when I substitute this with a certificate of title, the LVR will be 80% as per normal, unless I want to pay L.M.I. It has been absolutely beneficial because I don't have to apply for a new loan to settle on a new purchase. In fact, I have just bought a house in Port Pirie, SA without a "footprint" on my credit reference. As far as St George is concerned that loan with NAB has been paid out, unbeknown to them, it is still active. The National is happy because they have the money in their vault. If I default on the loans, they can retire them anytime. They get to make money out of my term deposit, and at the same time, make money off me from the loans. But it is also for this reason that I have to utilise the term deposit as soon as possible, like six months maximum. But I can use this strategy anytime, as often as I like. Angelina PS This subject matter is also in the other forum for those who want to discuss the boring technicalities. I don't want to wreck havoc to the free-flowing enjoyable discussions here.
 
I have actually done that with NAB where they simply held my property in a term deposit until i bought my next property. The problem is when u buy a more expensive property, then u will have to come up with more cash as they would only lend up to what you have in your term deposit.
 
Hiya

Commonly used practice where the lender offers it, even when buying a place to get 100 % lend from the start.

Other methods........
Have your TD a supplementary security, then when property value =< 80 % loan amount, release the TD and you have a nice big fat deductible debt without having to refi

ta

rolf
 
Hiya

In regards of the unbeknowns to them that the loan is still active, while its a clever idea, it could land one in hot water. Non disclosure is increasingly seen as fraud, and while not an issue now, as the market becomes tighter it may be.

Id suggest people keep their noses clean................

Ta

rolf
 
Interesting post Duncan,

Often referred to as a deposit under lien. One of the other benefits is you receive interest on the TD and yet have 100% finance in effect. Asset goes up in value and you can re apply to have your deposit released as security as the banks risk is within their margins. Can be used with Overdrafts to stop the bank taking additional security as well. Have seen it used successfully with equipment finance, lender wants deposit to mitigate lending risk/exposure, client wants 100% lend for tax/management/cashflow reasons, both settle on a DUL. Run the new loan for 24 months to demonstrate serviceability, lender becomes comfortable DUL released. A very useful business tool.
 
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