Most of the Blue chip internally managed LIC outperform the market by a small margin
Correct me if I am wrong, some of the blue chip LIC mentioned in this thread are ARGO, AFI and Milton corporation. Here is a snapshot of their top holdings. I have also included at the bottom the holding of Vanguard ASX 300 which should be very similar to the index weightings.
ARGO Investments holdings
Top 20 Investments:
Percentage of total assets as at 31.05.14 %
Westpac Banking Corporation 7.1
Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Ltd. 6.3
BHP Billiton Ltd. 6.0
Wesfarmers Ltd. 4.8
Commonwealth Bank of Australia 4.5
Telstra Corporation Ltd. 4.5
National Australia Bank Ltd. 3.8
Milton Corporation Ltd. 3.4
Woolworths Ltd. 3.1
Rio Tinto Ltd. 3.0
Macquarie Group Ltd. 2.8
Australian United Investment Company Ltd. 2.8
Origin Energy Ltd. 2.1
CSL Ltd. 1.6
Woodside Petroleum Ltd. 1.4
Santos Ltd. 1.4
Ramsay Health Care Ltd. 1.3
AMP Ltd. 1.3
Computershare Ltd. 1.3
Twenty-First Century Fox, Inc. 1.3
Top 20 equity investments 63.8
Cash and term deposits 4.3
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AFIC Investments holdings
Top 25 Investments ? Ordinary Securities
Valued at closing prices at 30 May 2014
Total Value
$ million
1 CBA Commonwealth Bank of Australia 692.1
2 WBC Westpac Banking Corporation 627.7
3 BHP * BHP Billiton 553.3
4 WES Wesfarmers 327.5
5 NAB *National Australia Bank 321.1
6 TLS *Telstra Corporation 293.7
7 ANZ Australia and New Zealand Banking Group 284.3
8 WOW * Woolworths 236.8
9 RIO *Rio Tinto 219.8
10 OSH * Oil Search 162.1
11 TCL *Transurban Group 150.0
12 WPL Woodside Petroleum 138.4
13 AMC Amcor 136.5
14 STO * Santos 118.5
15 ORG *Origin Energy 108.3
16 AMP AMP 108.0
17 BXB Brambles 107.5
18 CPU Computershare 103.8
19 QBE *QBE Insurance Group 88.7
20 APA APA Group 81.4
21 AGK AGL Energy 78.3
22 CSL * CSL 70.6
23 RHC Ramsay Health Care 64.4
24 MLT Milton Corporation 62.9
25 IPL *Incitec Pivot 60.9
Total 5,196.7
As % of Total Portfolio Value(excludes Cash) 80.2%
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Milton Corporation Investments holdings
20 LARGEST INVESTMENTS
The 20 largest investments at 31 May 2014 are set out below.
Company Market Value $m Share of Total Assets %
Westpac Banking Corporation 359.7 13.0
Commonwealth Bank of Australia 247.5 8.9
National Australia Bank 147.5 5.3
W H Soul Pattinson 135.3 4.9
BHP Billiton Limited 125.2 4.5
Wesfarmers Limited 124.1 4.5
Woolworths Limited 102.3 3.7
ALS Limited 100.6 3.6
ANZ Banking Group 99.5 3.6
Bank of Queensland 87.7 3.2
Telstra Corporation 72.7 2.6
Bendigo and Adelaide Bank 67.0 2.4
Perpetual Limited 64.0 2.3
Brickworks Limited 44.0 1.6
CSL Limited 41.8 1.5
Suncorp Group 41.0 1.5
AGL Energy 36.8 1.3
Woodside Petroleum 34.7 1.3
Rio Tinto 33.7 1.2
AP Eagers Limited 31.7 1.1
Total Top 20 1,996.8 72.0
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Vanguard ASX300 ETF Investments holdings
Holdings
ETF Underlying fund Top 10 holdings
1 CBA
2 BHP Billiton
3 Westpac
4 ANZ
5 NAB
6 Telstra
7 Wesfarmers
8 Woolworths
9 CSL
10 Woodside Petroleum
The Top 10 holdings represent 54.7% of the total underlying fund
So you can see all 3 LICs have different top holdings from the index weightings. Some LICs picks will endup outperforming while others will underperform. It's just not possible for all of them to outperform when they have different top holdings. We just don't know which ones will outperform, so which one do you pick? If you pick mix of few LICs you can best hope the good ones will cancel out the bad ones to give you an overall return at best similar to the index. Hence, why bother with the hassle of investing in multiple LICs? The incentive is just not strong enough. And if you pick just one, you don't know which one is going to be the outperformer.
Cheers,
Oracle.