How low is too low?

I know probably this isn't an answerable question, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

We like a property that is listed at $369,000. It appeared on the market last Friday and was open Friday - Sunday for 45 minutes each day. We inspected it on the Friday and not a single person came through while we were there (for 40 of the 45 minutes).

We only have $320,000 to spend...it's in a waterfront block but this unit is NOT on the water. It's on a loud main road, opposite a busy shopping centre and with an overhead bypass road visible from the property.

It's classed as 2 bedrooms but technically it is a 3 bedroom property (the third bedroom is a dining area really, without a door, but were we to buy, we'd put one in, thus making it a proper 3 bedroom property and upping the price! Not that this is our main purpose in buying it. We want a "forever home" this time), it's 2 storeys, and the 2 bedrooms upstairs each have small ensuites.

The property is nicely done, floorboards, nice carpet upstairs, but the bathrooms are dated and would need some work.

Each bedroom also has a balcony. The balcony from the smaller room overlooks that busy road and overpass / shopping centre. The balcony from the master bedroom (which is HUGE) overlooks the lovely gardens and the water (canal / river) that the block is on.

So...is $320,000 too small an offer for this? I happen to think even in this dead market that the asking price of $369,000 is fairly reasonable...I think. But we've been surprised by some incredible bargains going on around here lately...we know the owner paid $315,000 in 2007 as well...so...hmm.

We were considering offering $309,000 and then not expecting them to accept it, but then if they came back with $340,000 or something, we could offer $320,000? Is that silly?
 
I low balled a gold coast property and they accepted it. Try talking to the agent to get clues. why are they selling? Are they prepared to meet the market?


They paid 315K in 2007, I'd say your 320K would be ballpark. However who cares what they're asking for? Work out what you think it's worth, minus X amount because the market is downhill and your looking for a bargain. Then put your offer in. If they don't like it take your money elsewhere.

I won't buy anything on the gold coast unless it is a screaming bargain, My personal opinion is it'll be a long time before any significant growth so make sure you factor that in and your happy with the yield/undervalue.

Great location BTW, walk to casino and pacific fair


Address Bed Bath Car Sale Price Sale Date Sale Type Property Type Land Size
7/37 HOOKER BVD 2 2 1 $507,000 28/09/2010 Normal Sale MULTI-UNIT 157
6/37 HOOKER BVD - - - $513,000 07/09/2010 Normal Sale MULTI-UNIT
14/37 HOOKER BVD - - - $337,000 22/10/2008 Normal Sale MULTI-UNIT
19/37 HOOKER BVD - - - $322,000 14/08/2008 Normal Sale MULTI-UNIT
13/37 HOOKER BVD - - - $272,000 12/06/2007 Part Sale MULTI-UNIT
10/37 HOOKER BVD - - - $315,000 03/06/2007 Normal Sale MULTI-UNIT
17/37 HOOKER BVD - - - $408,000 12/12/2006 Normal Sale DWELLING
14/37 HOOKER BVD - - - $315,000 17/02/2006 Normal Sale MULTI-UNIT
4/37 HOOKER BVD - - - $190,000 21/10/2005 Part Sale MULTI-UNIT
7/37 HOOKER BVD 2 2 1 $350,000 08/06/2005 Normal Sale MULTI-UNIT 157
17/37 HOOKER BVD - - - $364,000 28/04/2005 Normal Sale MULTI-UNIT
 
Thanks so much for that advice, and also those sales figures!

You see the $513,000 and $507,000 ones...they're right on the water. The one we want is not...and those ones are cheaper, it seems...

Anyway, we'll look at it again this weekend, and go from there. May offer $309,000 and see how we go. :)

Thanks again!
 
Excellent location, but it's a busy road and you do get the merry folk who have had too much to drink or had a night at the casino walking past at all hours.

Price looks close, all depends on sellers thoughts however. One work around is to contact the agent about another property he has listed in a different price bracket and discuss, then mention it's perhaps not suitable for some reason, but will keep it in mind.. then somehow mention you have a 300k pre approval from your lender and might just be able to stretch to 320k for a special property, do you know of anything? Might not work so well if the agent already knows you though :) Indirect questions can yield good results.

It's a larger complex with a pool, just what is low Body Corp I wonder? I prefer the smaller complexes in quieter streets here to live, but a PPOR is a very personal choice.

In your position as you have a clearly defined target area, I would be letter box dropping and talking to people directly, the older residents in the area especially, there are plenty around who would love to have a chat!

Specifically on that site location it's somewhat recessed from the street, double glazing on the windows, enclosing the balcony B/C permitting, aircon and good security on windows if it doesn't have it already.
 
Thanks!

Yeah, it IS very exposed on that front part...if we bought there, we've already planned to get some kind of reflective / tough glass on the front room sliding door / window (this'd be our music room / study). It's quite loud, but that doesn't worry us.

The front door is technically next to this, at the front / loud end of the block as well, but we wouldn't use this door. We'd go around the back and enter through the patio door, through the nice gardens. It's closer to the garages anyway (not that we drive), so presumably many residents do this as opposed to walking all the way back around to the front and then down the street. Much safer walking through your own gardens.

Upstairs (right above the music room) is also quite loud, and this'd be our spare room and only used a few times a year for guests. Its balcony we would like to enclose, but not with glass, but with Cat-max for our cats, so they can still have fresh air but be safe and enclosed.

Cats are allowed on the property, which is good, as long as they stay on your own apartment property (our's are indoor only anyway, so this is no problem)

The BC is $40 a week apparently. Seems very good for all you get...

Oh, and yeah, ideally we want to be in a quieter side street very close to where this place is...but...we need to find a place that fits us and this one does...so we take the loud / exposed downside with all the good sides. :)
 
Thanks!

Yeah, it IS very exposed on that front part...if we bought there, we've already planned to get some kind of reflective / tough glass on the front room sliding door / window (this'd be our music room / study). It's quite loud, but that doesn't worry us.

The front door is technically next to this, at the front / loud end of the block as well, but we wouldn't use this door. We'd go around the back and enter through the patio door, through the nice gardens. It's closer to the garages anyway (not that we drive), so presumably many residents do this as opposed to walking all the way back around to the front and then down the street. Much safer walking through your own gardens.

Upstairs (right above the music room) is also quite loud, and this'd be our spare room and only used a few times a year for guests. Its balcony we would like to enclose, but not with glass, but with Cat-max for our cats, so they can still have fresh air but be safe and enclosed.

Cats are allowed on the property, which is good, as long as they stay on your own apartment property (our's are indoor only anyway, so this is no problem)

The BC is $40 a week apparently. Seems very good for all you get...

Oh, and yeah, ideally we want to be in a quieter side street very close to where this place is...but...we need to find a place that fits us and this one does...so we take the loud / exposed downside with all the good sides. :)
so whats the verdict? they accepted your offer yet"?
 
We're looking again tomorrow, when it's open. We'll see what the agent says, if he mentions anything more about whether the seller is even open to lower offers or if there have been any offers (neither of which the agent may divulge or not)...

We'll go from there. If we offered, it'd be VERY low. $309,000.
 
dont worry about it!

my family friend - about 7 years ago ... went to look at a semi in canterbury - was in horrible condition on main road ... vendor asking $280k. he said i'll give you $200k (he probably said it as a joke and did not seriously expect vendor to accept). not sure how long it took but vendor ended up saying YES!

honestly if some stranger told me that i wouldnt believe them ... but it can happen because it did happen ........

i think the vendor probably inherited it from parents so was a windfall to start with ... and the market was a bit dead at the time and the property appeared undesirable (due to poor presentation and being on main road) ...

what an awesome buy for him .....

a few months ago i saw another semi on same road selling for $519k ...

so compared to my family friend, your offer is not that low =)

good luck - hope you get it!
 
saw a property on weekend, and put in an offer 50k below their asking price, the agent laughed at me and tell me that i am crazy to expect that price :|
 
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