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The oversupply of medical graduates has flowed onto an oversupply of specialists.

Let me give you another link:

http://www.ctsnet.org/sections/newsandviews/inmyopinion/articles/article-7.html

Around the world, there is currently a glut of specialists and like any small business owner, when there is oversupply, business is getting very tough.

Well done. A generalisation based on one article written about one speciality.

There is no over supply of graduates. If so, why is the government actively seeking overseas GP's and specialists.

PM me and I will happily allow you work with me for a week to correct your thoughts.
 
A good specialist does not bulk bill. Simple. Take for example, anaesthetists. Their bulk billing rate is pretty crappy since they have to be in the operating theatre the entire time - so pretty much all of them private bill. Now if there were an oversupply of them that would never happen.
 
Well done. A generalisation based on one article written about one speciality.

There is no over supply of graduates. If so, why is the government actively seeking overseas GP's and specialists.

PM me and I will happily allow you work with me for a week to correct your thoughts.

I could supply you with many more links about oversupply of specialists. The oversupply is clear in Melbourne and Sydney for anesthetists, general surgeons, urologists and cardiologists. These specialists are now engaging in newspaper ads, websites, google pay per click ads - often paying tens of thousands of dollars to professional PR and advertising firms to co-ordinate their ad campaigns.

The government is not actively seeking overseas specialists. There is a shortage of GPs in rural areas but thats about it. The problem is that medical graduates do not wish to be GPs in rural areas. They want to be surgeons in the city - little do they know how competitive it is to get business and the desparate fight for work.
 
A good specialist does not bulk bill. Simple. Take for example, anaesthetists. Their bulk billing rate is pretty crappy since they have to be in the operating theatre the entire time - so pretty much all of them private bill. Now if there were an oversupply of them that would never happen.

Officially, they do not bulk bill. However, if you push them to it, many will. It is one of the hidden features of the current oversupply. Especially if you tell them that if they do not bulk bill you, you will take your business elsewhere.
 
How is the doctor different from any other small business owner? In certain areas, it is not worthwhile to own property whilst in others it is. If a doctor buys his own premises and one day, across the road, a serious competitor sets up, then that doctor is in trouble.

I needed to see two specialists recently.

I was driving home from the shops and noticed the new competitor set up and popped in. - not! I went to the one I was referred to. This happened to be in a large flash complex adjacent to the hospital where he operates.

the other specialist's rooms were in a not plush location on Wickham terrace, specialist central. the best in his field.

GP's don't refer patients to specialists based on their offices, but their skill and reputation. We're not talking competing Thai take away here.
 
I needed to see two specialists recently.

I was driving home from the shops and noticed the new competitor set up and popped in. - not! I went to the one I was referred to. This happened to be in a large flash complex adjacent to the hospital where he operates.

the other specialist's rooms were in a not plush location on Wickham terrace, specialist central. the best in his field.

GP's don't refer patients to specialists based on their offices, but their skill and reputation. We're not talking competing Thai take away here.


Often the GP will have no real knowledge of the specialist that he is referring his patient to. He will not have met him in person and certainly has no idea whether the specialist is up to date or competent. In many GP medical centres, there is a database of specialists - the GP will often just look this up and refer to whoever comes up. You have to understand that the GP is sitting in his own office pumping through 50 patients a day whilst the specialist is doing the same. Never do the two meet. As a GP, you refer patients to a whole different array of specialists: dermatologist, surgeon, cardiologist, radiologist - it is impossible to know anyone. It is only if the patients keep coming back from the same specialist with complaints does an alteration of referral pattern changes. Otherwise, the GP will refer to the same specialist that he is referring to for the past ten years. That is why many new and existing specialists invest heavily in marketing to GPs in order to generate referral leads.
 
Often the GP will have no real knowledge of the specialist that he is referring his patient to. He will not have met him in person and certainly has no idea whether the specialist is up to date or competent. In many GP medical centres, there is a database of specialists - the GP will often just look this up and refer to whoever comes up. You have to understand that the GP is sitting in his own office pumping through 50 patients a day whilst the specialist is doing the same. Never do the two meet. As a GP, you refer patients to a whole different array of specialists: dermatologist, surgeon, cardiologist, radiologist - it is impossible to know anyone. It is only if the patients keep coming back from the same specialist with complaints does an alteration of referral pattern changes. Otherwise, the GP will refer to the same specialist that he is referring to for the past ten years. That is why many new and existing specialists invest heavily in marketing to GPs in order to generate referral leads.

hang on, they've changed from marketing to consumers on google with PR firms to marketing to GPs??

I think your posts refer to 2m GPs and their equivalent specialists. the posts here are about quality GPs and quality specialists.
 
In many GP medical centres, there is a database of specialists - the GP will often just look this up and refer to whoever comes up. You have to understand that the GP is sitting in his own office pumping through 50 patients a day whilst the specialist is doing the same.

Not necessarily true. More importantly, the average number of patients that a GP sees per hour is 4. Eight hours a day = 32 patients.

I really think that you have no idea of what is going on in the real world.

If there was such an oversupply of medical specialists, why is is costing companies such as Foundation or Primary over $300,000 to attract a GP to their practise to work from?
 
hang on, they've changed from marketing to consumers on google with PR firms to marketing to GPs??

I think your posts refer to 2m GPs and their equivalent specialists. the posts here are about quality GPs and quality specialists.

A good PR firm will market to GPs as well as the consumer. You can be the most skilled surgeon in the world but you will get no business unless people know you exist - PR firms build a brand/image and advertising firms promote the brand.
 
Hi all,

We've recently purchased a new IP in Yarraville Melbourne, it's a 5 bedder and we're considering turning it into a medical clinic to gain higher rental return.

The land area measures 830+ Sqm therefore it's not hard to fit more than 5 cars paces. (A large portion of the courtyard area is concrete therefore quite ready as well)

Now with settlement taking place early April(2013), is there anything we could do to kick start the permit application process? Is there anyone familiar with city of Maribyrnong planning scheme and am able to assist us?

Cheers,

Eric
 
Hi Eric

keep me updated re your project.

my sister in law is a doctor and she is looking for medical rooms. and yarraville is one of her target areas.


PM me your details if you are interested in getting a potential tenant. (provided u got your medical permit!)
 
Hi Eric

keep me updated re your project.

my sister in law is a doctor and she is looking for medical rooms. and yarraville is one of her target areas.


PM me your details if you are interested in getting a potential tenant. (provided u got your medical permit!)

will do mate, we're submitting our permit application next week and should have results within 6 months.
 
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