Perth and WA getting progressive!

[Jake D]

No idea about Income protection or life insurance.

Sick leave: There's probably more to it than this, but from my observations: If you can get a note from a doctor, you get paid, Dad had a rough trot a couple of years ago and took almost 6 months paid sick leave in a 12 month period, and it wasn't a compo case or anything.

Also, doctors fees, including specialists completely unrelated to work-related illnesses/conditions, can be paid for by the force. (please don't ask me how)

 

[Rooster]

I know I'm about to offend somebody, and we're getting off-topic, but these have got to be the worst two examples.

My examples weren't to illustrate the benefits or small perceived luxuries of each occupation.

Purely that they generally have fixed start times. Teaches can't "knock off" at 2pm if they start at 6am because they generally have classes to teach.

Police work to a roster without the option of flexible start and finish times.

Rooster

 

[Ergophobia]

Why am I stuck working 5.30 - 5.30?

because your a grubby subbie on an hourly rate

flexi time is another WA'ism that breeds inefficiency... it reduces the effective working day to 6 hours when everyone is there. Then you get the people who work 7-5 and a half day friday because their 40 hours are up

WA need to realise, eventhough they might not like it, they are still a part of AUSTRALIA... not China or India.

 

[Jake D]

I know, which is why I added the disclaimer to start with. Despite what it looks like, I actually try to avoid being argumentative.

And with my links to police and teachers I also know that I don't want to be either, despite some of the conditions being favourable. Some of the crap and politics that both professions have to deal with is outrageous.

I did just notice that WAPOL's recruitment website mentions flexible work hours, I don't know how they'd manage that though. Maybe if you land a desk job.

Back on topic, I would much prefer longer shopping hours and daylight savings myself, but i'd also like to think that my vote, and everyone elses counts in a referendum. If they're willing to ignore referendums, why have one? And what else will change against the desires of the majority?

 

[Jake D]

because your a grubby subbie on an hourly rate

Oh right, Bugger.

 

[bene313]

Ummm, the Parliamentarians who make the rules.

I simply disagree generally with big government rule making and would support small liberal government if we actually had the option in Australia.

You obviously have never been through the incredibly painful process of applying for and being granted a liquor licence.

The hurdles one needs to jump over to get one have all been put in place by the "concerned local community"....of which you are a member.

You're right I never have applied for a license. Although I personally know and have spoken to many pub and small bar owners/operators about their businesses and have been involved in the industry for around 10 years.

I consider the rules regarding liquor license highly unfair and biased towards large operators (read ALH). The small guy is punished while the lobbying from the big players is rewarded, leading to unfair market conditions.

Such rules set by the Parliamentarians are applied unevenly. Hurts small business and hurts the consumer choice/hip pocket.

 

[Dazz]

I consider the rules regarding liquor license highly unfair and biased towards large operators (read ALH). The small guy is punished while the lobbying from the big players is rewarded, leading to unfair market conditions.

Such rules set by the Parliamentarians are applied unevenly. Hurts small business and hurts the consumer choice/hip pocket.

If you feel strongly about it, you'll need to stop complaining from the outside, put your hand up, get on the inside where you can actually do something about it.

My observation is that 99.99% of the population prefer to stay on the outside and just bleat about whatever their little issue is....slagging off the folks who were prepared to get off their tush and do something about it.

It's far easier to just moan about both the situation and politicians, so that's the path most take.

 

[Ideo]

If you feel strongly about it, you'll need to stop complaining from the outside, put your hand up, get on the inside where you can actually do something about it.

My observation is that 99.99% of the population prefer to stay on the outside and just bleat about whatever their little issue is....slagging off the folks who were prepared to get off their tush and do something about it.

It's far easier to just moan about both the situation and politicians, so that's the path most take.

It's a rare day I agree with you, but in this case I am with you 100% on that.

 

[Dazz]

That gives me absolutely no comfort at all.

 

[Ausprop]

WA need to realise, eventhough they might not like it, they are still a part of AUSTRALIA... not China or India.

bankwest need to realise that their name is a joke. they observe EST and eastern states public holidays.

 

[cu@thetop]

If you feel strongly about it, you'll need to stop complaining from the outside, put your hand up, get on the inside where you can actually do something about it.

My observation is that 99.99% of the population prefer to stay on the outside and just bleat about whatever their little issue is....slagging off the folks who were prepared to get off their tush and do something about it.

It's far easier to just moan about both the situation and politicians, so that's the path most take.

Now we've been through this before.... One does not have to be a cook to criticize the cooking.

Most people take action at the ballot box. They are not prepared to align with a party (ALP/LIB/Greens etc ) go through the preselection and effectively have to toe the party line if voted in. further- who would want the intrusiveness of the media in both the public and private life? Rupert's camapign against the ALP reached a head on Monday; but perhaps not the result he wanted.

Gina is now getting into media- one wonders what influence she will have on editorial policy- esp as regards super tax, carbon tax etc that hit her pocket.

Politics? No thanks. I prefer the bigger picture.

 

[natmarie73]

Costco's lobbyists have usurped democracy.

Since when did 2 votes AND a referendum mean nothing?

I dont care either way, but it's just proves how much Australia is a monarchy and not a democracy.

no DST because it's stupid. if you want to take advantage of the sun, get up earlier and come home earlier - dont mandate it.

Hear hear. And not to forget it's ****ing HOT over here esp anywhere north of Gero. Can't do SFA for nine months of the year until the sun sets and the earlier that is the better! Who wants to go walking or play tennis in 45 degree heat at 9.30pm?

IMO, surely daylight saving would be better utilised during the winter months anyway, no matter where you are.

 

[dan c]

IMO, surely daylight saving would be better utilised during the winter months anyway, no matter where you are.

The issue with that is the sun wouldn't rise until 8am.

Daylight saving in the southern states now extends until the first week of April, which is too long.

 

[Ergophobia]

Hear hear. And not to forget it's ****ing HOT over here esp anywhere north of Gero. Can't do SFA for nine months of the year until the sun sets and the earlier that is the better! Who wants to go walking or play tennis in 45 degree heat at 9.30pm?

IMO, surely daylight saving would be better utilised during the winter months anyway, no matter where you are.

Good idea, we should split the state at the 26th parallel... the FHOG already does

 

[Jake D]

The issue with that is the sun wouldn't rise until 8am.

Daylight saving in the southern states now extends until the first week of April, which is too long.

I'm sitting at my desk before the sun rises anyway. I'd much rather have sun in the afternoons, than in the morning, and definitely more than not at all.

 

[jaycee]

Sounds like "anywhere north of gero" has it's own problems that ain't daylight saving time related.

9.30 pm ? Who would want to go walking or play tennis in 45 degree heat at 0.30p, the time it would be without daylight savings ?!

 

[dan c]

i was an office employee for many, many years and we have had a little thing called "flexitime" here in WA since the late 80s - whereby you can work 6-3, or 7-4, or 8-5 if you like....

I'm sitting at my desk before the sun rises anyway. I'd much rather have sun in the afternoons, than in the morning, and definitely more than not at all.

Maybe start an hour earlier...

 

[BMan]

Yep, I understand how flexi time works.

Unfortunately for a major part of the workforce, flexi time is not an option.

Think school teachers, Police, etc.

I'm all for flexibilty with work hours. Many employers can't or won't consider it.

I also think DLS is great too. My partner works in an industry where flexibile work hours isn't an option, so to be able to head to the beach in the final part of the day is great come this time of year.

Rooster

i dont have flexi time as such but i start an hr earlier and finish an hr earlier it suits me also only have half hr lunch aswell
i can basically choose my times each day within reason as long as i do the required hrs the boss is fine
also suits them as im available an hr earlier than anyone else if they need something done and theres still others there when i leave

 

[Jake D]

Maybe start an hour earlier...

I'm already on the first train. It's gross.
I'm actaully not unhappy with my work situation at all, I just really would have prefered the daylight sAvings referendum had gone the other way.