Things to see and do in Mildura

I'm considering an IP or possibly two in Mildura. I know it's capital growth prospects aren't great, yadda yadda, but I'm only really interested in yields. It's population isn't declining and CF+ properties can be picked up for less than their replacement value, which is good enough for me.

I've never actually been to Mildura. I'm planning to spend a day or two looking at properties but mostly just getting a feel for the place.

For those familiar with the area, any recommendations on what I should see and do in Mildura to get a general feel?
 
So, I can safely assume there is nothing to see or do in Mildura?

I suppose there's always the marina. And, um. Yeah, that's all I have.
 
I think perp is originally from Mildura, and goes there to visit occasionally.

Hopefully she sees this thread and is able to give you some advice.

I went there many years ago but can't tell you much I'm afraid, other than it's green, not unpleasant and has a the Murray running through it - which is a good thing for a community that's inland.
 
Perry Sand Hills on the other side of the border - awesome place to take photos - makes you look like you are standing in the middle of a red Sahara 2 minutes from the car park.

The Y-man
 
Cheers for the responses.

And I'll definitely check out Perry Sandhills. Did a quick image search - 'tis beautiful.
 
Mildura is like most other Riverina country towns, but a bit bigger.

Lots of farming (oranges particularly), lots of river, lots of golf...good places to live for the most part, but not exciting for younger folk really unless you're into sports, or farming , or can land a retail job there, the tradies do ok.

Don't know that any of these towns are increasing their populations too much going forward; most seem to be losing the young'uns to the cities, and only oldies moving there to retire.

Farming is getting harder and more corporatised; so less hands-on labour - less folk needed.

(I grew up in Deniliquin and have seen this pattern in that town - as one example)
 
Cheers for the responses.

And I'll definitely check out Perry Sandhills. Did a quick image search - 'tis beautiful.

Also, not sure how much of the outback you have seen, but for me, the area to the north of Mildura/Wentworth on the Silver City Hwy was my first ever view of flat nothingness as far as the eyes could see. It left a huge impression on me on a Year 9 camp, and I went to do a big drive "around the block" many years later (Melb > Broken Hill > Tibooburra > Bourke > Melb).

Broken Hill itself is an interesting place if you have time to get out there - the original birth place of Broken Hill Proprietary (BHP) and the Silverton Pub (think MI2, Priscilla, MadMaxII)

Unfortunately due to a very unusual wet season that year, I couldn't get out to Mungo to look at the moonscape.

The Y-man
 
I'm considering an IP or possibly two in Mildura. I know it's capital growth prospects aren't great, yadda yadda, but I'm only really interested in yields. It's population isn't declining and CF+ properties can be picked up for less than their replacement value, which is good enough for me.

I've never actually been to Mildura. I'm planning to spend a day or two looking at properties but mostly just getting a feel for the place.

For those familiar with the area, any recommendations on what I should see and do in Mildura to get a general feel?

Firstly, Enjoy.

I know of folks having had relatively long term investments in Mildura have built themselves nice nest eggs that have been accruing equity. The drought (which hit most of Victoria, many parts of Australia) did hit hard for the fruit growers, yet, from that comes opportunity.

Mildura is similar to the likes of Bendigo, Ballarat, Horsham, Shepparton it is the far north west State 'catchment' city. Like other regional cities of Victoria it has it's ebbs and flows, but pushes on solidly regardless. If you would like Victorian Valuer General stats (relatively longterm) growth figures just send me a PM, more than happy to share with you, copyright (I cheekily asked the VG office:)) prevents me from putting the lot up publically.

Mildura, the Sunraysia area has a rich and long history.

If you truly want to get a feel for what it was built upon, it's later history after it's early, original Indigenous history, the locks and weirs, the Chaffey Trail

If you have time:) any chance you head out to Meringur, via Lake Cullulleraine, through Werrimull on toward Meringur for Millewa Pioneer Park look around. It is as if the 'settlers' have stepped out for lunch, time stood still, a pioneer settlement, constructed lovingly, accurately by volunteers over years to give people an experience of what it was like in early settlement. If you have kids it's likely they will love the fun and education of it too, much of it can be interactive in it's own way.

The other thing that gives a great sense of the area is a river boat cruise, you can choose how you want to go about this, but keeping in mind the river is the lifeblood of the area it gives a great sense understanding it's importance.

From here:

http://www.visitmildura.com.au/discover-mildura-by-boat.html

From memory the paddlesteamer 'Melbourne' still runs short trips if you don't want to be tied up on the water too long.

The Chaffey Trail

As Yman touched upon, take camera! :

Mungo National Park

But it might be getting too much, too far to pack into a few days, sorry if I have doubled up places. The river front at the city (Mildura), is about to get a face lift, loooong time coming, was going to give a good shake for a casino but change of State political power knocked that on the head, at least the river front will still get a makeover, it's a gorgeous area to improve upon, can you tell I am a big fan of water.

I think your investments will take care of themselves, (my family tried to stick to relatively close to the cbd-ish), they tend to see the good solid growth as opposed to buying land blocks further out, (split up old grape vine blocks) and constructions, they kinda take time to get momentum.

Have fun. The place is spread out, the streets numbered like New York, ie 8th, 9th, 10th street wise, so you mind find that relatively easy to navigate by.
 
Had a client come into today, she has put her house in Adelaide on the Market and is moving upto Mildura.

Says that she is able to get plenty of work, decent schools for the children and best part is she can buy a 4 Bedroom 2 Bathroom Double Garage for $240,000

She will reduce her mortgage by ~$65,000 and be living in a nicer house than her current.

Only thing she is loosing is the Adelaide life, kids cant wait to get up there apparently.
 
So, I can safely assume there is nothing to see or do in Mildura?

I suppose there's always the marina. And, um. Yeah, that's all I have.

I've just been having a quick look for Perp's comments (valuable as always) about Mildura. Here is the Regional Victoria thread:

Regional Victoria investing

Aha, found it! Knew I'd linked the threads up somehow, the Perpster's comments are in this Mildura thread:

Mildura-2009 -> onward



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Thanks for all the comments and advice, especially OO. I had a read through the links and there was a lot of helpful info for both investing and fun.

Initially I was seeing this as purely a research thing, but I'm actually really looking forward to it. Definitely visiting Mungo National Park and taking a river cruise.

Who said you can't mix pleasure and profit?
 
Things to do..

There's also Stefano di Pieri's ristorante but you don't need to eat.

Other things - probably anything along the river Murray ie paddle steamers, a spot of fishing, decent fish and chips, vineyards, lots of high quality local produce shops.


(CJay - when do they hold the 'snot block' festival?, I'm going).
 
Thanks for all the comments and advice... Who said you can't mix pleasure and profit?

Hi Fifth

If you decided to take the time to look around Mildura, did you also consider Renmark in SA just across the border. It's only 100km down the road. ???

Enjoy!
 
I live in Mildura and have an IP in Mildura.
Market is fairly flat but would be quite easy to buy positively geared property up here. Capital growth is not great to date but it is expected that it will improve.
Mildura is gaining significant capital funding to develop it's infrastructure. Solar is a big industry up here. Recently a new almond factory was developed. Riverfront is getting a significant face lift in the next couple of years, planning is well underway. This will include riverfront residential development. Changes in zoning laws that are anticipated may open up significant land for sale though, as land is aplenty. This may impact on value of properties.
It is a beautiful city - green, vibrant, river is the hub, good motorsports industry, range of sporting pursuits, indoor wave pool, golf, etc.
Main disadvantage, for those from capital city areas, is distance from capital cities. Adelaide is around 4 hours drive and Melbourne around 5.5 hours. Sydney is 10 hours.
The weather is superb, though can be quite chilly in winter.
Lots of acitivies and events on all through the year - Country Music Festival, Speedway, Drags, sporting events (tennis, golf, cycling), Vanilla slice triumph (!!!), and more.
It really has all one could need. Lots of retiree's come here for the weather to live.
My IP is not quite cash positive, however, I have had the same tenant for the three years I have owned the place, and always see people looking to rent. We had to push the agent to increase the rent after 2 years, and we'll look at doing it again shortly. I'm surprised the rents are increasing quicker, given how tight the market appears to be. We have a 2o year old 3BR, 1bathroom brick veneer near the major shopping centre on a 900 Sq M block, which we hope to subdivide in the future. Purchased for $205,000 in 2009. Probably not worth much more than that now, but the value was in the land for us. Eventually the rental returns will make it neutral, if not positively geared but that will take time.
Happy to point you in the right direction if you want any more information about this area.
 
Thanks for the very detailed post, newlywed. It's good to get the perspective of someone who both lives and invests in Mildura.

I know Mildura hasn't experienced capital growth in some time but so long as it doesn't decline significantly, I'm not overly fussed about capital growth. I'm more interested in having a CF+ property paying itself off (P&I loan). The rental market appears tight and stable enough (currently 1% vacancy rate according to SQM Research).

We've booked our accommodation for the holiday period. Given the time of the year, we won't be looking at any properties, merely getting a feel for the area. At the moment, we're simply considering it a short holiday. If we're happy enough with the area, we'll be returning to look at properties and submit offers next year.

The distance from Melbourne is a bit of a nuisance. We're getting there and back by train/coach so we can look out window and take in some views, but if we were to decide to invest, a plane might be more practical in future. We'll see...

Anyway, when we get back, I'll update this thread with some photos of the town/city for anyone else who might be interested in the area.

@Logica

Sorry, I managed to miss your post. No, we won't be visiting Renmark. Just Mildura and a day visiting Mungo National Park. Neither of us drive so we're a bit limited in our movements. Mungo will be a guided tour. Still in our twenties and already taking guided tours! It was either that or renting pushbikes and collapsing in the desert from heat exhaustion. I think we chose wisely. A bit pricey, but I think (hope) it will be worth it.
 
Guided tour sounds better hehe... although I've tried push bikes around Mildura centre myself. Worked well: it's pretty flat so suited my fitness level :)

Cheers, Paul
 
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