Dose of anti-D&G, as told to The Australian

For those of you who are sick of purely D+G....

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...39-7583,00.html

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Real estate's temple of doom

Christopher Joye | December 03, 2008
Article from: The Australian

THE economics of Australia's $3.3 trillion housing market is widely misunderstood, with sensationalist claims that a housing bubble caused the global credit crisis and that Australian house prices will fall by 30 per cent to 50 per cent.

In fact, the latest RP Data-Rismark Index results show that Australian house prices declined by just 0.8 per cent in the 12 months to October this year, and increased during the most recent three months.

The primary cause of the world credit crisis was a prolonged period of relaxed lending standards across asset markets, which led to excessively high levels of debt. This was further propelled by the US Federal Reserve's maintenance of unreasonably low interest rates in response to the 2001 tech wreck.

In the US, the crisis was exacerbated by poor regulatory practices in which lenders had no recourse to borrowers if they defaulted (which is not the case in Australia) and thepresence of two quasi-government agencies that crowded the private sector out of the prime lending market.

Subsequent damage has been wrought by the tendency of today's highly interconnected financial markets to wildly overreact to positive and negative events.

As the inevitable unwinding of debt takes place, almost all asset prices have declined, especially in the US and British housing markets, where the coincidence of very high default rates, bank failures and severe credit rationing has precipitated price falls.

According to the Case-Shiller Index, US house prices are off 21 per cent. (This data is arguably biased downwards given that distressed sellers account for 40 per cent of all sales even though they represent only 3 per cent of homes.) In comparison, the S&P 500 has fallen by 43 per cent since its apogee in October 2007.

The contrast is more striking in Britain, which does not suffer from the US problem of overbuilding. According to the FT Index, which importantly captures all British sales, house prices have fallen by just 6 per cent from their peak.

Yet the FTSE All Share Index has contracted 39 per cent. Indeed, the FTSE has fallen more on individual days than the British housing market has from peak to trough. If one wants to talk about bubbles, the most credible conclusion is that the biggest bubbles were in shares.

In Australia, the hyperbolic predictions of economists Steve Keen and Gerard Minack that house prices will fall by 30 per cent to 50 per cent have been relentlessly recycled in newspapers and purportedly credible programs such as 60 Minutes and The 7.30 Report.

The doomsayers' claims are based on the assumption that housing affordability is at an all-time low.

They dismiss the fact house prices are determined by supply as well as demand (affordability is a demand-side factor) and conclude that prices must fall by some arbitrarily large margin. Keen likes to shock by quoting statistics about the rise in household debt without acknowledging that debt-servicing ratios have remained unchanged thanks to vastly lower real interest rates, the emergence of two-income households and higher real incomes.

Recent analysis by the Reserve Bank of Australia has comprehensively demonstrated that housing affordability is not at an all-time low. According to one of the Reserve Bank's benchmarks, the representative household in June 2007 had more real disposable income left over after purchasing a home and servicing a 90per cent mortgage than at any other time since June 1982.

The bank also found that the representative household could afford to buy 33 per cent of all homes in June 2007, which, although less than the historical average of 45 per cent, was markedly better than the 13 per cent of homes available to it in June 1990.

Importantly, the Reserve Bank's present 4.25 per cent cash rate is considerably lower than the 6.25 per cent rate that existed in June 2007. Since mortgage rates peaked at 9.6 per cent in August, the Reserve Bank has pushed them down to about 6.7 per cent, with markets predicting that they will be less than 5 per cent by mid-2009. At the same time, house prices have not appreciated.

These improvements in affordability have been augmented by the Government's $10.4 billion spending package, which has focused on supporting incomes and boosting the first home owners grant.

Thus, despite assumptions of rising unemployment and slowing wages growth, ANZ and Westpac believe that Australian disposable incomes will grow solidly by 8per cent or more during the next year.

Perhaps the best insight into mortgage stress is default rates. Only 0.4 per cent of all home loans on Australian bank balance-sheets were delinquent in August 2008, a fraction of equivalent rates in the US (more than 2.5 per cent) and Britain (1.3 per cent). The Reserve Bank has noted that although August was the peak of its recent monetary policy cycle, Australian delinquency rates were still materially lower than levels experienced in the mid-1990s.

Australia also benefits from the fact we don't really have a sub-prime market, which accounts for 15 per cent of US loans. And in contrast to the US and Britain, where most loans are fixed for years, about 85 per cent of all Australian mortgages are variable so Reserve Bank rate cuts immediately benefit borrowers.

The biggest risk to Australian house prices is a credit squeeze. Yet, unlike the US and Britain, which have suffered multiple bank failures, there is no evidence of Australian banks systematically denying residential credit. Since the crisis began the big banks have profited immensely from a decline in competition and tremendous deposit inflows. While the banks are restricting credit to businesses, they are happily investing in the home loan market, which attracts a much lower risk-weighting from the regulator. Today high-quality borrowers have no difficulties getting 95 per cent loans. Indeed, Australia's largest mortgage broker, AFG, reported that approvals in October were the strongest since November 2007.

The main reason most forecasters believe Australian house prices will rise in the medium term is because of enormous excess demand. Treasury projects that housing demand is growing at more than 190,000 properties a year compared with housing starts of 145,000 homes each year. Building approvals in NSW, our largest state, are at a 23-year low. This had led to a severe housing shortage, which Westpac and ANZ estimate at more than 120,000 homes and growing. ANZ forecasts that Australia's housing supply deficit will rise to 200,000 by 2010.

When the demand for an asset exceeds supply, prices rise as the market seeks to stimulate new production. This is why, despite the prophets of doom, and the five rate hikes borrowers endured between late 2007 and mid-2008, house prices have remained largely unchanged.

The Reserve Bank believes Australia's housing market is leading the US by three years, having entered into its downturn in 2004. There is also a consensus between the Reserve Bank and most economists that the doomsayers' predictions will be proven wrong. A striking counterfactual is the 1990-92 recession, when unemployment hit 10.9 per cent yet house prices rose by 2 per cent a year according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

The media would do well to interrogate sensationalism.

Christopher Joye was the principal author of the 2003 Prime Minister's Home Ownership Taskforce report and is chief executive of 'research' [sic] group Rismark International.
 
Keen likes to shock by quoting statistics about the rise in household debt without acknowledging that debt-servicing ratios have remained unchanged thanks to vastly lower real interest rates, the emergence of two-income households and higher real incomes.

Recent analysis by the Reserve Bank of Australia has comprehensively demonstrated that housing affordability is not at an all-time low. According to one of the Reserve Bank's benchmarks, the representative household in June 2007 had more real disposable income left over after purchasing a home and servicing a 90per cent mortgage than at any other time since June 1982.

this is the bit that i found interesting - and something us positive thinkers have been trying to get thru to the d&g-ers for months.

the basics for historical comparison has changed.
 
this is the bit that i found interesting - and something us positive thinkers have been trying to get thru to the d&g-ers for months.

the basics for historical comparison has changed.

<sarcasm>
But your wrong!
All you have to do is look at history and it will tell you you're wrong!!
</sarcasm>

:rolleyes:

Nice article - thanks pieman. :)
 
Nice informative reading.

The problem with stats is they can always be interpreted different ways and why the D & G guys will probably find holes somewhere.
 
Hi Guys,

Gee, that reads like something I (or Shadow or a couple of others) might have written, and we all know what happens when we mount these sorts of arguments. Lets see which ones I know that I've wheeled out before only to be torn to shreds by the doom and gloom crowd:

1. Its different over here:

"In the US, the crisis was exacerbated by poor regulatory practices in which lenders had no recourse to borrowers if they defaulted (which is not the case in Australia)"

and

"Australia also benefits from the fact we don't really have a sub-prime market, which accounts for 15 per cent of US loans."

2. Supply side numbers also set the price:

"The doomsayers' claims are based on the assumption that housing affordability is at an all-time low. They dismiss the fact house prices are determined by supply as well as demand (affordability is a demand-side factor) and conclude that prices must fall by some arbitrarily large margin."

3. We have more disposable income than ever:

"Recent analysis by the Reserve Bank of Australia has comprehensively demonstrated that housing affordability is not at an all-time low. According to one of the Reserve Bank's benchmarks, the representative household in June 2007 had more real disposable income left over after purchasing a home and servicing a 90per cent mortgage than at any other time since June 1982."

4. Credit rationing is not hurting the market:

"The biggest risk to Australian house prices is a credit squeeze. Yet, unlike the US and Britain, which have suffered multiple bank failures, there is no evidence of Australian banks systematically denying residential credit. Since the crisis began the big banks have profited immensely from a decline in competition and tremendous deposit inflows. While the banks are restricting credit to businesses, they are happily investing in the home loan market, which attracts a much lower risk-weighting from the regulator. Today high-quality borrowers have no difficulties getting 95 per cent loans. Indeed, Australia's largest mortgage broker, AFG, reported that approvals in October were the strongest since November 2007"

5. Underlying demand exceeds supply:

"When the demand for an asset exceeds supply, prices rise as the market seeks to stimulate new production. This is why, despite the prophets of doom, and the five rate hikes borrowers endured between late 2007 and mid-2008, house prices have remained largely unchanged."

and

"The main reason most forecasters believe Australian house prices will rise in the medium term is because of enormous excess demand. Treasury projects that housing demand is growing at more than 190,000 properties a year compared with housing starts of 145,000 homes each year. Building approvals in NSW, our largest state, are at a 23-year low. This had led to a severe housing shortage, which Westpac and ANZ estimate at more than 120,000 homes and growing. ANZ forecasts that Australia's housing supply deficit will rise to 200,000 by 2010."

6. We're ahead of the US in the housing cycle:

"The Reserve Bank believes Australia's housing market is leading the US by three years, having entered into its downturn in 2004."

7. Be careful putting too much credence into the doom and gloom crowd arguments:

"There is also a consensus between the Reserve Bank and most economists that the doomsayers' predictions will be proven wrong. A striking counterfactual is the 1990-92 recession, when unemployment hit 10.9 per cent yet house prices rose by 2 per cent a year according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

The media would do well to interrogate sensationalism."

But what do I know! :D

Cheers,
Michael
 
So was it you Michael, or Shadow that wrote this article - fess up ;)

I'd be interested to know how/why ANZ and Westpac predict our disposable income to grow by 8% over the next year.. considering our current economic growth is at 0.1% and our stock market (a good indicator) has dropped by about 35% over the past year.. I think they may be a tad optimistic?
 
Fantastic article.

Just to further expand on the ratios that the D&Gers talk about, it is pointless to talk about household income to debt ratios, particularly compared to other countries for a number of reasons.
1. Taxation is not taken into account. If a country has a tax rate of 70%, then there is much less money left over to service debt. Their ratios can be lower than ours, but it will still be harder to service their debts.

2. Different tax systems - For example, in the US you can claim your house interest on your tax .This means people's actual repayments are lower once taken into account. All countries are different.

3. Cost of living - In different countries household expenses change. Utility bills may be vastly different, as well as larger expenses like petrol and child care.

The only ratio that might even mean something is the disposable income after expenses to house price ratio. And even that's fraught with danger.

Besides, what IS the limit anyway? If we're at 9x income to house price, who's to say we can't go to 20, or 30? For a long time people have said we're near the limit, but we may be nowhere near it. People were clearly buying at the peak still, so I guess it was still OK.

The other thing the D&Gers forgot was this little interest rate cut. Real interest rates have falled by a third in the last few months. This means a ratio of repayments to house price has just dropped 33%. Kinda kills that argument.
 
The only ratio that might even mean something is the disposable income after expenses to house price ratio. And even that's fraught with danger.

Why?

Are you saying there is no relationship between capacity to pay and capacity to buy?

Oops, looks like you might be....

Besides, what IS the limit anyway? If we're at 9x income to house price, who's to say we can't go to 20, or 30?

Banks.

Next question ;)
 
3. Cost of living - In different countries household expenses change. Utility bills may be vastly different, as well as larger expenses like petrol and child care.

all good points - but this one stuck out as it's something not mentioned properly before.

several years ago we travelled to the uk on a budget and did a lot of our shopping at the supermarkets/markets etc.

what i noticed was that what food cost $2.99/kilo in australia, could cost gbp2.99/kilo there - same for clothes and takeaway etc, practically dollar for pound for basic consumables. so with an exchange rate at 1/3 (or 3 times), the cost of basic purchases in the uk were around 3 times what they cost here ... so one would need to have a disposable income of 3 times the australian income to survive.

so comparing purely income and property prices is deceptive, especially if comparing average (aust 4bed/2bath/2living/2gge - uk 3bed/1bath/1living/0gge) and not like for like.

wonder what the usa comparison is?
 
Why?

Are you saying there is no relationship between capacity to pay and capacity to buy?

Of course there is a relationship between the two. My point is that the figures are difficult to interpret meaningfully, given the factors I have discussed, and even an improved marker will still face scrutiny due to a whole host of other factors which I'm sure other people could raise.

Lifestyle choices for example could be one.
 
Before the bust the Yanks were building 300 sm homes with marble bench tops etc. But there is a big difference on houses and prices. Texas is quite cheap. Never really had the boom.

i meant in prices of basic consumables required for day to day living in relation to the disposable income ...
 
what i noticed was that what food cost $2.99/kilo in australia, could cost gbp2.99/kilo there - same for clothes and takeaway etc, practically dollar for pound for basic consumables. so with an exchange rate at 1/3 (or 3 times), the cost of basic purchases in the uk were around 3 times what they cost here ... so one would need to have a disposable income of 3 times the australian income to survive.

This is not unrealistic, since the person selling that food might earn 15 GBP / hour if the same person here gets $15 / hour.

When I was over there, I noticed the same thing. Like a cinema ticket that would normally be $12 here was about 12 pounds there.
 
so to claim to compare averages and say that the average person in aus earns $20/hr, and the average person in uk earns aus$50/hr yet their house prices are lower - doesn't include all the variables if consumerables are not taken into consideration, as their daily cost of living might be higher in comparison - so they have less disposable income to spend on debt.

there are just too many variables ....
 
Besides, what IS the limit anyway? If we're at 9x income to house price, who's to say we can't go to 20, or 30?

Banks.

Next question ;)
Hmmm...

So, if I take a 95% deposit on a house to a bank with an OK income, they won't allow me to buy a property that's "house price" was 30 times my income? I don't think so.

Once again, you presume 100% lend. Everyone always forgets the equity position or the fact that most trade-up properties are not 100% lend.

Servicability is a factor of the "loan value" not the "house price".

But what do I know, I'm not a bank guy.

Cheers,
Michael.
 
The cost of most goods in the US is significantly lower than in Australia.

But wages on average are much much lower than Australia. No one in Australia has earned $4.50 per hour for a very long time. Thats all too common in the US.
 
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