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From: Mike .


A second opinion please
From: NigelW
Date: 26 Feb 2001
Time: 11:04:46

Hi all. I'd welcome people's views about the following:

block of 5 flats in a middle ring suburb of Brisbane, close to train, shops, schools and sports facilities. Cap gain in area is reasonably low but some new/re-development in the area (not exactly gentrification but the coffee club can't be far behind...)

Now for the important stuff - the figures

List price $360K my offer $300K Agent's comment on vendor's position he's at $315K and I'm sure if you offer $310K I can get it through) Rent $650 per week rates 4800 insurance etc allow $1000.

Unimproved value only $121K. Land size is enough for another 2 units at the back (but who knows whether BCC would ultimately approve it?)

On that basis gearing to 95% including mtge insurance let's say $295K borrowing.

Fixed I/O for 3 years at 6.95% means $,20503 repayments. Gross rent allowing 2 a generous 10 weeks total vacancy across the 5 flats would be $32500.

Thus the net would be about $6K (less any repairs). Depreciation wouldn't be great given the age and unfurnished BUT should be able to jag about $3K per flat in the first year and around $300/pa thereafter. Thus there could be about $7000 in tax savings for me in the first year as well (on top rate).

Would I be mad not to go to $310K on this? That would be buying at a 13.9% discount from list price but who knows re real market value (i guess I'm the one determining that)

A wise 2nd opinion would be very much appreciated. I think I'm suffering a bit of what TW described as investment-itis. Can I not see the wood for the trees or is this a good deal?

btw Geoff1's rule of 500 would result in about $322K.

Cheers and thanks in advance, N.
 
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Rolf

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From: Mike .


Re: A second opinion please
From: Rolf
Date: 26 Feb 2001
Time: 14:12:46

Hi Nigel,

Nothing like that in Sydney!

On the Subject of Lenders Mortgage Insurance.

A near 95 % LVR on 295 k i/o IP Loan will cost you about $ 8000 depending on the Insurer.

Let any I/O IP loan slip over the 300 mark like to 301 and your premium would be $ 10 400.

Ouch - 2400 Extra Premium for a net increase in loan of < $ 4000.

Also Nigel, depending on your individual circumstances , 3 year fixed, might be able to pick up at 6.6 - 6.7, not a lot of diff, but about $ 800 per year less interest.

Regards, Rolf
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KJ

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From: Mike .


Re: A second opinion please
From: KJ
Date: 26 Feb 2001
Time: 13:00:56

Nigel,

If you get anywhere near to Geoff's 500 Rule, then you're onto a good thing. Go for it, before either Geoff or another forum member finds it and beats you to it. You could always strata title them at a later date.
 
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Scott G

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From: Mike .


Re: A second opinion please
From: Scott G
Date: 26 Feb 2001
Time: 18:57:16

Would you care to elaborate on Geoff's 500 rule?

Cheers, Scott
 
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KJ

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From: Mike .


Re: A second opinion please
From: KJ
Date: 26 Feb 2001
Time: 19:05:32

Search for the thread Entitled Re: The 800 Rule Posted by Geoff1. I like the 500 Rule! On 25 Feb 2001
 
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